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Moonfish
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posted October 20, 2015 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted October 20, 2015 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LexusVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is David gay?

Knight of cups, no David isn't gay he is just very good looking and a nice person that makes ppl question his sexuality. David might even like to wear pink.

Ten of cups , apparently these people wish that David was gay..
Z9 of coins rx they like this to make you feel bad they gain from this

No david is not gay he is just really good looking and I feel the cards are saying you have jealous ppl around you?

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posted October 20, 2015 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is David heterosexual? ( the method I always use is to direct the positive answer to the querent's wish)
The funny part: same cards

knight of cups lovers 8 of pentacles 10 of cups

cards say he is; also, they indicate he is probably in love with someone

leno confirmed this, him being in love, with ring dog bear heart

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posted October 20, 2015 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, the same cards!
Thank you both That makes me feel a lot better
Feel free to post your question(s)!

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posted October 20, 2015 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This isn't a reading, but I just wanted to comment on your situation. For one thing, unless he is still going through his divorce or mending from that relationship, then why would he be waiting to have a relationship with you? That seems very strange to me. Also, if multiple people have stated that they think he is gay, there could be truth to that. Usually if a man is suspected of being gay, then he is most likely gay or bisexual. A lot of people have horrible gaydar, and unless someone is waving a rainbow flag, they don't pick up on it. Especially if they are attracted to the person. The fact that he was married to a woman isn't proof of being straight, and a lot of people struggle internally for years before understanding their own sexuality. He may love you dearly as a friend, but my intuitive feeling is that it's not a romantic or sexual attraction.

Do you have a lot of Pisces in your chart? Your user name suggests that you do. I have seen countless Pisces heavy women on here saying how they fell for a gay man. My sister is a Pisces Sun with a 12th house Capricorn Moon, and I'm almost certain that my brother in law of nearly 20 years is at least bisexual, if not gay. My sister is VERY secretive, so she would never admit it, but I think she prefers to be married to a friend, and turns a blind eye to what he does on the side. She admits that she does not like to have sex, and for years has identified as asexual. My first impression of my brother in law was that he's gay. He also likes to take naps with his male best friend and they spoon each other, which I find very odd. Other people have told me they think he's gay, and I'm sure a lot of people don't mention it because they are trying to be polite.

If the two of you are truly close, then you should just ask him. If multiple people think he is gay, he has probably heard this before. It's really not a matter of insulting his masculinity, but getting answers for your own peace of mind. I think that if you explain your concerns openly that he will understand if he really cares about you. He's the only one that really knows the answer. If you sweep this under the rug and get into a relationship with him, you will probably always have your doubts. So it's best to at least attempt to get answers from him. I wish you luck in resolving this tough situation.

To me the Knight of Cups is a young man that is very in touch with his emotions, and is romantic. In some cases I think he can also be emotionally manipulative to charm people. In the context of this particular question it may indicate a man with more traditionally feminine attributes, although not necessarily gay. That being said, this would be a card that I would expect to see if asking about a man being gay or not.

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posted October 20, 2015 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bluejay:

To me the Knight of Cups is a young man that is very in touch with his emotions, and is romantic. In some cases I think he can also be emotionally manipulative to charm people. In the context of this particular question it may indicate a man with more traditionally feminine attributes, although not necessarily gay. That being said, this would be a card that I would expect to see if asking about a man being gay or not.


That is true, I thought about it too. First when I saw LexusVirgo's Knight, then with mine too, I said oops, could be, although the question was the opposite. For Lexus's spread, I would have said yes, he is gay. Maybe the cards being repeated is the key here. But then 8 of pentacles gives this strong "straight" vibe. So I decided it has to be a yes for him being straight.

But the problem here, Moonfish, is that to me this man seems married; or at least in a serious long term relationship and in love, a happy one. Why does this come up here?


btw, ring dog bear heart was for him being hetero too...gay or straight, this shows a committed man, no doubt about this

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posted October 20, 2015 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LexusVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would of said he was gay too but to me the knight of cups has always come up with men who get all the ladies.

If I would've gotten the knight of wands I woulda said yes because, to me he is a sassy gay man. And he's carrying a rod?

The knight of cups have came up for me when women ask about their me. That don't want to commit, so I see the knight of cups as a bit of a player who loves women.

I have had the knight of wands come up for my gay friends who ask about their men. That a why I made the call I did on my spread.

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posted October 20, 2015 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:

If I would've gotten the knight of wands I woulda said yes because, to me he is a sassy gay man. And he's carrying a rod?

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This part made me laugh! I guess with this question I could definitely see that. I always see the Knight of Wands as a fiery(not necessarily flaming-lol) young man that has a lot of energy, life of the party type personality. He can definitely love them and leave them, but I see all of the Knights of having the potential to be a player. I think the only exception is the Knight of Pents, unless he's looking for someone with status. Knight of Cups can be a man that is ready to commit because he's having romantic feelings, so that may be the case here.

I just think that if multiple people question his sexuality, there may be some truth to it. Unfortunately, men that are emotional are often seen as feminine, so that might be the case here.

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posted October 21, 2015 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fair enough, I'm not in complete denial of him being gay. It's been months since people have suspected him, and I'm more content with the thought.
I have a lot of respect for him, and what's hard for me is having someone who I consider a friend for years possibly hide who he really is. He is a military man who's very handsome, polite, protective, & nurturing (his Sun conjuncts Ceres & Pluto in Scorpio). He doesn't show much emotions, but his Saturn squares my Moon exact so that could be why lol

I have...
• Pisces moon 12H and Pisces ASC
I prefer to stay in solitude, and have a small group of friends.
• my Sun-Mars-Pluto conjunct in Scorpio 8H
Yes I can be extremely obsessive & controlling. At the same time, I've been single my whole life because it's hard for me to open up to people.
• Libra venus in the 7H
My Venus in unaspected so I don't necessarily care to be in a relationship unless someone triggers that in Synastry. My feelings of love have been mostly dedicated to art, nature, & animals.
(My 7H is ruled by Mercury Sag in 9H - Freedom)

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posted October 21, 2015 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:

If I would've gotten the knight of wands I woulda said yes because, to me he is a sassy gay man. And he's carrying a rod?


I have had the knight of wands come up for my gay friends who ask about their men. That a why I made the call I did on my spread.


good point! The Knight of Cups should like the ladies ("cup" is the female....cup lol I just realized this important fact). It's interesting that the interpretation also differs depending on how someone perceives "gay": more "feminine, sensitive" in nature, or more masculine, male oriented ha! that was a good one

Moonfish, sorry, but I can't ignore this, is David the one we've been discussing the synastry in IA so many times? The one who blocked you and everything, that "unrequited" love for so long? Honestly, now I have this impression you are still looking for an explanation as to why he doesn't want to be with you, and now in this gay thing? And part of you prefers him to be gay?

You ignored my question, but I asked again if he is gay. David is NOT gay.

Knight of swords Sun Empress

The cards say No (knight of swords) he loves women ( sun + empress), particularly one woman, I should say (the empress)

David is straight and in love or in a relationship with someone else.

I think the cards in Lexus and my spread are trying to tell you David loves somebody else and he is happy, I think this is your main message here.
I know how hard it is, I've done my own share of obsessing over someone but please, you deserve better, you deserve shared love. Wishing you all the best!

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posted October 21, 2015 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo I appreciate your readings but I'm not a fan of your approach.
1) I DID acknowledge your question, and offered an exchange in return.
2) I don't like being accused, or even the thought that i made up this "gay thing" (or want him to be!)
3) I've known this man for a while now (he's worked with my dad for 10yrs), and I know for a fact that he has not been in a serious relationship since his divorce which was 3 years ago. Of course I am very aware that he could be flirting/dating other people.
4) Yes, he is the man I posted those other threads about, and Yes he has unfriended me on Facebook. It was because he got Jealous of another guy flirting with me on my timeline.

I don't deny that my feelings for him aren't obsessive, I have Scorpio Sun/Mars/Pluto 8H - it comes naturally. At the same time, I'm not ignorant to the fact that he may not feel the same way I do. I am open to advice and guidance, but the way it come across seems like you have the whole situation figured out, which is not the case. Now If you still want reading(s) in return I'd be more than happy to do that for you, but as far as this topic goes think it's best to bring it to a close. Thanks again.

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posted October 21, 2015 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moonfish I also want to say that your readings are always good. I wish you could be on the board more longer lol.

Your last reading really seemed to be so accurate, you're amazing with what you do. Hopefully you make another thread soon.

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posted October 21, 2015 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
Leeloo I appreciate your readings but I'm not a fan of your approach.
1) I DID acknowledge your question, and offered an exchange in return.
2) I don't like being accused, or even the thought that i made up this "gay thing" (or want him to be!)
3) I've known this man for a while now (he's worked with my dad for 10yrs), and I know for a fact that he has not been in a serious relationship since his divorce which was 3 years ago.
4) Yes, he is the man I posted those other threads about, and Yes he has unfriended me on Facebook. It was because he got Jealous of another guy flirting with me on my timeline.

I don't deny that my feelings for him aren't obsessive, I have Scorpio Sun/Mars/Pluto 8H - it comes naturally. At the same time, I'm not ignorant to the fact that he may not feel the same way I do. I am open to advice and guidance, but the way it come across seems like you have the whole situation figured out, which is not the case. Now If you still want reading(s) in return I'd be more than happy to do that for you, but as far as this topic goes think it's best to bring it to a close. Thanks again.


My "approach" was to ask you if he is in a relationship and you didn't answer, which became suspicious, and now you are hostile all of a sudden. You DID NOT acknowledge my question. It is above. Other than that, you don't have to explain yourself to me. BUT you are changing your story! I answered and helped in several of your IA threads about this guy for a long time. Last time, the story you told about the unfriend business and the letter was different than what you are saying now. The threads are still there. Don's ask me to pretend I don't know your story and don't change it now. My cards show there is dishonesty surrounding this issue and I can see it is happening.
You could have simply said: NO, I know for a fact he is not in a relationship or in love with anyone. But not what you wrote here, a defensive and rude attitude. I wish you showed this face when you asked for comments on this synastry, so many times.

I can't control the cards I get and it is my duty to discuss those. Also, it is futile for both me and you to think you can hide from them. By this I mean when one asks for a reading, one knows everything will be in there, not just with my cards.

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posted October 21, 2015 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for candycrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
king of wands/empress/9 of cups

Simply put: no, he isn't gay. At least the cards don't suggest so.

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posted October 21, 2015 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excuse me, you're the one being rude by the way your putting together an untrue senario about me! I love how you genuinely believe your own thoughts about someone you never met before.

You said "You ignored my question. I asked again if David was Gay."
Which led me to believe that you were referring to the question you posted "Is David Heterosexual?" Otherwise stating that I did not respond to the first reading you gave me. So my bad for unintentionally "ignoring" THAT one. I'm not hiding anything from people over the internet lol for what?

Oh really?! Please remind me what my own letter said

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posted October 21, 2015 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by candycrush:
king of wands/empress/9 of cups

Simply put: no, he isn't gay. At least the cards don't suggest so.


Thank you, let me know if you have a question

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posted October 21, 2015 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for candycrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thank you, let me know if you have a question

No problem. I don't have any questions at the moment, thank you for the offer.


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posted October 21, 2015 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No problem. I don't have any questions at the moment, thank you for the offer.


You're welcome

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posted October 21, 2015 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Excuse me, you're the one being rude by the way your putting together an untrue senario about me! I love how you genuinely believe your own thoughts about someone you never met before.

You said "You ignored my question. I asked again if David was Gay."
Which led me to believe that you were referring to the question you posted "Is David Heterosexual?" Otherwise stating that I did not respond to the first reading you gave me. So my bad for unintentionally "ignoring" THAT one. I'm not hiding anything from people over the internet lol for what?

Oh really?! Please remind me what my own letter said


My question was this:

"But the problem here, Moonfish, is that to me this man seems married; or at least in a serious long term relationship and in love, a happy one. Why does this come up here?


btw, ring dog bear heart was for him being hetero too...gay or straight, this shows a committed man, no doubt about this"

the one you ignored. Two times you chose not to comment on this important fact.

"cards say he is; also, they indicate he is probably in love with someone

leno confirmed this, him being in love, with ring dog bear heart"

I am just reading cards. They show David is not single.

All I know about you is what you chose to "share" with us in IA. Different than what you're saying now. I am not looking for your threads to link them, I am not 10, you link them yourself. I know the truth, you know the truth, readers are not stupid, the only sad part here, and your rudeness, comes from asking for readings, than ignoring them, their content, then attacking the reader for not letting you ignore them. Well, thanks then. It's been a pleasure to read for you...again. And last.

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posted October 21, 2015 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2 of cups - 5 of wands - 8 of wands

I'm just doing this for practice.. Okay for the 2 of cups are you two maybe close or have a close friendship for now? What ever it is, you two seem close. For the 5 of wands, does he maybe seem to try to win you or something? Like could he think there was a completion with you or maybe he was thinking he was going up against someone for you? With the 8 of wands, it seems that you two are talking an have balance with each other. Things will continue to progress. I hope this makes since.

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posted October 21, 2015 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea, I thanked you for your readings and offered an exchanged not once but twice. I don't see why you have to accuse me of something for not responding to you the way you see fit. I read through everyone's comments, sorry if I did not respond properly but in return I was trying to show my gratitude with exchanges, I do have a life outside LL. I believe the cards can guide us, but I don't believe that the reader can give a completely clear conclusion on other people's problems. When I read for someone I am open to what the cards say but aware that I do not have all the answers. Every reader is different though.

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posted October 21, 2015 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also I want to put my input on here.

You two shouldnt argue. You two are good readers an seeing this just doesn't feel right. You two should make up an just apologize to each other.

Yall choice but it would be better to see that..

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posted October 21, 2015 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you ask for a reading, you ask for someone to tell you the truth. That's what readings are about, this is what they convey, and this is what we're all trying to do when giving readings: to offer a message of truth that is beyond us, as persons. You don't ask for readings to hear what you want to hear or to comment only what you want to comment, from that reading.

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posted October 21, 2015 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
2 of cups - 5 of wands - 8 of wands

I'm just doing this for practice.. Okay for the 2 of cups are you two maybe close or have a close friendship for now? What ever it is, you two seem close. For the 5 of wands, does he maybe seem to try to win you or something? Like could he think there was a completion with you or maybe he was thinking he was going up against someone for you? With the 8 of wands, it seems that you two are talking an have balance with each other. Things will continue to progress. I hope this makes since.


Thank you ILovePoems yes, there is still a lot of progress just within the realms of our friendship. Whether that being close friends or something more is still a mystery :3
Let me know if you have any questions

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posted October 21, 2015 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
When you ask for a reading, you ask for someone to tell you the truth. That's what readings are about, this is what they convey, and this is what we're all trying to do when giving readings: to offer a message of truth that is beyond us, as persons. You don't ask for readings to hear what you want to hear or to comment only what you want to comment, from that reading.

I would of accepted either outcome whether it turned out he was gay or straight, that's not the problem. The fact that you added things like he's married man, he doesn't like you, it's unrequited love, and me not answering your first question must make it true. Those are things that make me seem like I'm some sort of homewrecker or mistress. Maybe that wasn't your intention, but that's how I took it.

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