posted October 25, 2015 07:17 PM            

Here's my natal with transit and progressive chart... thanks again!

posted October 26, 2015 08:19 AM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
~ Just saw this,
Today it's gonna be kind of a busy day for me, but I think I can have your reading for tomorrow, promise.
Perhaps you have a special inquiry/ question about your chart?, if so, just let me know

*eta* what? your chart looks like mine...

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cool beans, thanks!

ummm, where do i start with questions...lol

can you see anything positive with job / finance in my transits and progressive?

also relationship issues and inner growth that is going to heal soon?

north and south nodes karmic lessons?

mostly questions about what's going on with my transits and progressive planets and on natal my 12th house and my retrograde planets?

@ our charts looking alike... wow, are u my long lost twin?! haha

posted October 28, 2015 01:02 AM            

~ Hi again

Ok, before getting into transits & progressions, I think it'd be easier for me to begin with the exact moment of your birth.
There's a modern method of interpretation for each degree of the Zodiac called the Sabian Symbols.
Some websites like this one have a brief description about all of them.
So, let's begin with your angles first, each degree of the angles provide a basic idea of 'our story' in general. Meaning the following.

Degree for ASC ~ In which condition you start this current incarnation, depending on how this symbol is described, we can 'take out' virtues, limitations and/or even complex contexts from it. It's your personal identity as a consequence of the past, it periodically changes at a certain point, depending on progressions, your own will and/or external influences. If it's a 'not a very positive' degree; then it tell us what we need to improve. If it is the opposite situation and the degree for our Ascendant is a very positive, joyful one; then it shows what we have earned/ acomplished and should not forget, but at the same time taking in count our current True Node, which is the actual quest for this present time <== and sometimes it might point to a bit contradictory context/situation.
Of course, nothing is so cut and dry. A good degree doesn't make you 'superior than' (honestly I doubt that such person would feel such emotions), just as a not-so-good degree doesn't make you a punished soul lol, not a all! - If anyone feels lost or feels the pressure of guilt (which is an illusion, btw) I'd ask that person: Isn't it true that you are alive? Or that you are reading this? The more aware you are of your own condition, less are the chances to go wrong, thank life for all the little or big opportunities in it.

( I don't know why I feel like saying this, but... there is no such thing as '3d pain' after death )
Ok, let's continue...
Degree for IC (imum coeli) ~ Tell us about home & family, natural environment, community involvement; Represents a context, a bloodline, a lineage, a nation (ethnicity), family members. IC is not a personal point since it is not really about you, but but perhaps a big part of what has been inherited in you. Hence, what you feel as comfortable.
Degree for DSC ~ This sabian tell us what we expect to receive from those interacting with us and/or a context that is best suited for us. Is it a shinning smile? or is it an almost paternal figure that speaks from experience? or maybe an audacious person waiting for that special meeting, willing to tell you how to break those chains of your past?
This angle embodies partnership, teamwork, co-existence and yes, at a certain point, some confrontation.
Degree for MC (medium coeli) ~ Medium Coeli is the highest point in a celestial object's apparent daily traverse of the visible sky. Embodies aim in life, aspiration, public reputation product of our actions, how we are perceived when we are not around, our life goal. At a certain point is an illusory mark; is not about something that exists in us but about something we want to be real, like an urge deep within your soul telling you to pursue this aspiration.
( as logic, this point goes beyond any pre-conception, programmation (of the also illusory) Maslow's hierachy of needs; which seems to be supported by the prussian education system, ( which influenced the current public education in several countries ))
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Ok,
in your chart, these are the sabians assigned to your angles.

Ascendant at 18º55' Leo ~ A houseboat party
Youth-oriented nature, ventureful, outdoor activities, probably separated of big crowds and social setup, yet very friendly. Hmm, how interesting, this degree is telling that you are free of social rigidness.
I know a couple of folks with this degree in their rising sign, I have to say that seem to breath life force haha, they are very sunny indeed ! So, it's a keeper degree for me, the only thing I'd suggest would be not to fall in the kind of indulgence that compromises one's health, other types of 'indulgence' would be okay/acceptable for me. Since this is not the kind of people you teach or instruct, but the ones you learn from.
( Part of the previous degree may be acting as well, since it's at 18º 55' ) 18º Leo ~ A chemist conducts an experiment for his students. Degree of alchemy.

Imum Coeli at 21º 14 Scorp ~ Obeying his conscience, a soldier resists orders.
This might be the most beneficial degree of Scorpio, because it tell us about the act of proving oneself as an individual and not a mere tool of an established order ( after having surpassed the survival instinct of obeying those who are perceived as 'superiors' ), which is a very low vibration indeed.
And this IC of yours is conj Uranus, hmm...

Descendant at 18º55' Aquarius ~ A forest fire is being subdued by the use of water, chemicals and sheer muscular energy.
Complex and uncommon symbol, it can be interpreted in many ways.
I'm going to divide the symbol in little fragments just to try to get a better idea of it.

A forest fire ~ A highly destructive force that does not only menaces human beings, but animals, plants, etc; in other words, a threat for a whole ecosystem/biosphere. Hmm, why not a tsunami or a hurricane? Why the presence of fire in this symbol? A destructive fire may represent a terrible egotistical and oppresive force. Let's remember that it would be difficult for 'man' to create a tsunami or a tornado, but it's way easier to create fire and harm others. ( 90% of military weapons are incendiary/ fire-based; the presence of fire as a destructive, menacing force in this symbol could be pointing to the consequences of a 'bad ego')
- This forest fire is being subdued by -
The use of water ~ could point to human emotion, compassion and feelings in general; which are pretty much what embodies 'human condition'. Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces.
Chemicals ~ the use of knowledge present in modern day's man, a rational process to face a problem. Air/Earth
Sheer muscular energy ~ the use of one's will power and confidence, a positive and healthy ego. Leo, Sag, Aries
So, we have a destructive, oppresive (-)fire energy against water+earth+air+(+)fire ( Something confronting the celestial bestiary (Zodiac???) ) What an interesting symbol, what is this fire that confronts such "harmony" ? I'm spinning within my own thoughts... so I'll leave this here for now...

Putting all together,
you may expect your partner, your co-workers/ teammates (partnerships in general) to be above average in such matters described before ( water + earth + air + fire ), so you can feel secure against any potential menace and/or experience inner growth just by having such contacts.

Interesting, are you marrying a superhero or an uber-skilled magician?

Are you going to work, co-exist or team up with truth-seekers, members of a fraternal organisation or just with non-average people in a general way? Of course, this might create some confrontation depending on the circumstances, remember that you embody 19º Leo and the opposite degree may be very different from you, you are very natural from what I'm seeing and even innocent if you allow me to say so... knowledge may be scary at a certain point, and of course, it's not guaranteed that you'll find "truth in knowledge" at first try, they are many cults, sects, auto-proclamed masters around and of course naive people as well. There's not only black and white in this world, but many shades of grey.

Medium Coeli at 21º 14 Taurus ~ A finger pointing to a line in an open book
Aw, how fitting...
" Learning to discern what in your culture and religion is meaningful to you personally ",
Life is like this open book,
and since this is the sabian for your MC, it should mean that your soul urge is to find truth within this book (life), so you can't be fooled again.
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*Phew*
ok,
( ??? ) To get this 'configuration' you should have born a bit below the tropic of cancer, hmmm... I'm confused, around Indionesia/ Philipines? Perhaps you are the one who should give a reading to me? !

I didn't even take a look at your saturn, houses, etc.
Yet I think I got a lot of info...

and...

posted October 28, 2015 08:50 AM            

Pretty spot on, but I still have to get familiarize with the ASC, MC and IC (very very beginner here) I will google the terminologies!

But pretty much on target with my personality. I'm very nature/natural oriented. I thrive in nature, following the rhythm of nature. You may say I am innocent when I want to be. Almost naive/childlike.

I had a huge laugh when you said about if I am getting married to a super hero or a very skilled magician!! (Hopefully, he's coming to me full speed? Not getting married... yet! ) HA!

Yes, my birthplace is below the tropic of cancer... (that was impressive you were able to tell! ) I can give you an intuitive reading in exchange if you'd like, just not reading your birthchart (lol)

posted October 29, 2015 07:28 AM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
Don't worry, it's really pleasing for me to help and answer questions,
what I may perceive as an exhausting feeling, could actually be some virulent astral worm that didn't like something I wrote... so no worries at all... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Isn't it interesting?
For example, let's suppose a huge, colossal dragon from a fantasy tale rules certain land...
But in this same fantasy land, a super cute tiny bird exists as well...
the question is, why would the huge dragon perceive the tiny bird as an imminent menace and tries to censore it?
( cry me a river dragon? )

I'll come back on Friday ( * bird is ashamed * )
because, today is the birthday of the dragon... and I think I've annoyed it enough for now ( * what an inconsiderate bird ! * )

sorry for spouting this boring stuff but it's the best way I've found to describe...
this weird situation...

~ I have Uranus conj IC as well
~ Good night !

*ETA* knowing your placements for Karma and also Pallas + Atlantis ( 19º Leo asc + your 28º Aqua Sun )
could help me to give a better insight in past events, since Elvis left the building and seems not to be around...

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hi gemmy birdy - what you mean dragon? who's the dragon?

i just thought you were exhausted from the reading, and didn't want to push or seem pushy for you to keep reading... (didn't want to intrude on your time and was being mindful/respectful of it)

i don't like asking people for alot.

what you mean, who didn't like what you wrote?

posted October 29, 2015 07:32 AM            

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[i]~ Hi,

Aw, sorry I meant... quitting astrology at least for a while and also other occult stuff, but in a near future. However, it might never happen... I'm highly variable
No way I was going to end your reading like that, I didn't even answer most of your questions. Must say that even if I get a bit exhausted, I get a very pleasing feeling just by being in personal readings, haha! weird. I've rarely posted here, but I get very good vibes from this section; maybe because there are many topics and no one reads the stuff I'm writting ... aaah it feels nice, I guess all I need is a bit of peace from time to time.

Having read those 4 sabians in your angles, I think I can continue reading placements and Houses.
But first I'm going to tell why I've used such peculiar house system in the ~ Steve Jobs thread , some folks (myself included of course) think astrology was hijacked around 1900 by sectarian theosophists ( this hijacking could have been unintentional or malicious ). Around 30's they had the best economical resources and hence the best 'marketing/propaganda' machinery; but originally astrology was 'math astrology', a practice from Mesopotamia. / This practice was probably taught by 'the gods' against the orders of the Yaldabaoth, who wanted to enslave mankind by feeding on subtle energies such as pain & fear. It was a terrible age indeed, it's part of the past, yet I think it's nice to mention that originally mankind was way above any of those gods/angels of ancient semitic scriptures; and undivided and pure being free of fear.
So... ... ... the modern hijacking by theosophists could be just a consequence of very ancient events, what clashed in the past, clashes in the present, I'd say so.

Ok,
This method is as follows.
The closest object to earth is moon, which means the first sign in the zodiac wheel is cancer, the second closest object is sun, (why?) because Sun is closer to earth ( average distance ) than mercury, because mercury regularly travels to the other side of the sun. Mesopotamians knew this ( and probably other cultures before, knew this as well ). So, the zodiac wheel begins with cancer, leo, virgo... ...and ends with aries, taurus, gemini.
This mathematical method has its own house system as well, it's the following:

Leo 1st House
Cancer 2nd House
Gemini 3rd House
Taurus 4th House
Aries 5th House
Pisces 6th House
Aquarius 7th House - You are indeed a double Aquarian
Capricorn 8th House
Sagittarius 9th House
Scorpio 10th House
Libra 11th House
Virgo 12th House

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Excited to have a read about your houses reading

just woke up, it's 7:32 am here... will have a full-on read later .. THANK YOU again!

posted October 31, 2015 02:55 AM            

So stay away from any risky transpersonal activity just in case ...

posted October 31, 2015 12:57 PM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
Sorry about the delay, almost didn't make it...

Okay,

<<< can you see anything positive with job / finance in my transits and progressive? >>>

*~ Your sun, mars and mercury in 7th house

This is the house of Aquarius, this house is the house of reaction/ feedback, new alternatives, freedom, while the first house is about 'being in the spotlight', this house wants equality, it's about brotherhood, partnerships, teamwork, the ability to co-exist with your duality (1st house)
Having these 3 planets in this house, indicate that you are highly inventive, especially when it comes to intellectual matters (Mercury) because you tend to learn new things in a not conventional way, yes, such abilities as precognition may be developed as well, this Mercury is retrograde (rx); these skills may have been present as well in previous incarnations. And it's in Pisces; a mediumship trait ? perhaps I'm going to write more about this later.

*~ You have your Lord of 2nd house in 7th

Hmm, I'd say that you are a very 'sharing person', you are prone to share your personal finances, possessions, resources, values, income not only with your loved one(s) but with partners in general.

*~ You have your Lord of 4th house in 7th

I'm getting a lot of authenticity, originallity from you; these gifts may come from your family tree (heritage), when you asked me if Uranus conj IC was related to psychic abilities, I didn't know exactly what to say... it might be, I'm gonna tell you what I know, Uranus rules the neo-cortex, which is a higher form of thinking, it goes beyond envy and survival instinct; this survival instintc can be found for example in territorialism, racism, greediness and other forms of negative ambition like a very turbulent and weak ego that desperately needs to compare oneself with others. <= this behavior is product of the reptilian complex in our brain. A primitive instic of "eat before being eaten". So, having Uranus cnj IC could point to a free from prejudice way of thinking (which may influence a lot the opposite point (MC)), strong intellectual capabilities and depending on where Pallas is placed, a stong pineal gland. ( This combo of uranus + sun 28º aquarius + leo rising could point to a celtic/gaelic heritage or to a Lyraen/ cat genes. The truth is... cat people look like... cat people

I'm saying this because you have your venus conj fixed star vega as well... there are many 'coincidences' in your chart that point to this, sorry if I am tiring you, but having a sun in a celtic degree + rising sign at 19º leo + Uranus cnj IC + venus conj fixed star vega + many other objects I'm probably missing, could this point to a royal-emphatic Lyraen DNA type? You seem to be free of egotism, this is a quality you must keep.

*~ You have your Lord of 1st house (chart ruler) in 7th

Same as above, this is part of 'chained' patterns in natal charts. This indicates that you give your personal identity, self-expression, presence, performance, charisma (1st house traits) at the service of others (7th house, partnerships, teamwork, etc) . You may have developed a lot of Solar qualities (as leadership) in your previous incarnations, let's remember that your draconic sun is conjunct your current saturn (tropical), so this link to solar traits come from long ago.

As per job and finance, there are two specific houses; house 12 as a routinary, practical job and house 6th as a less rigid activity (work as a service), now this is what I see:

You have jupiter(rx) in 12th house, this jupiter is lord of your 5th house ~ you may be certainly lucky when it comes to getting a job, due to your optimistic and joyful nature and also your honesty; because such qualities are always appreciated in a work environment. The problem is that this jupiter is squaring your natal moon (libra), this tells me you may feel a routinary job as asphyxiating in some way, this could affect your health, mood and happiness in general. Moon in 3rd house tells that you need short trips from time to time, variety in activity and being in contact with many people; this relaxes your moon (emotions)

*~ So!, what to do now? which is the right path to choose? well, I guess it's time to see how your chart has progressed.

Hmm, aw, this is strange... there is a saturn (rx) in your 12th, but north node as well, and also a packed 6th house (mars, venus, moon), this may sound a bit bizarre, but it'd seem that is not a good time to work under pressure, not at all. Oh, you have a venus in 5th house, a libra moon in 3rd, packed 7th houe + leo rising; your lord of 6th h (saturn) is in 1st house (self-expression), I get the feeling you may be quite a pretty lady (: , what this lord of 6th in 1st is suggesting is that you should work on your presence, personal identity, image and consciusness of individuality "I am", and also help those who are not very confident; if I had to give you a job, I'd choose something like a 'personal manager' or 'Artist management'. Someone who is capable to improve others' authenticity, presence, image, creativity and self-expression. Any job related to beauty, health care & cosmetics seems to be very suitable for you as well, I think you really can help others to be the best version of themselves, since this an innate quality in yourself, you don't have an agressive ego as others may say, I don't think so.

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Thanks so much for this thorough reading Gem Bird!

I have to read through the technical terms in astrology since I am still a very beginner with all this. However, there are many things you have said that relates to who I am as a person. Example, I am for the greater good for humanity in regards to higher thinking. I strive to be of unity with each other, rather than the negative, ego based thinking our world has been (patraichal) form of living.

In regards to what you said about the ideal job for me, it's very true. I love helping others see their potential... (and at times, I get snapped at from people because they feel through their ego based thinking that I am 'judging' them) this happened with my ex-bf where i was supporting him see his potential, and he felt I was judging him, instead of seeing it that I was genuinely helping him see his true self. (I have stepped off from doing this because of past hurtful experiences. I just wait for people to ask me, i won't go out of my way to help them any longer)

I will have another read and google the astro terms you have mentioned with my aspects, houses etc. THANK YOU again for your invaluable insights, it's really helpful for me at the moment. BIG LOVE

posted October 31, 2015 01:03 PM            

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Hmm, aw, this is strange... there is a saturn (rx) in your 12th, but north node as well, and also a packed 6th house (mars, venus, moon), this may sound a bit bizarre, but it'd seem that is not a good time to work under pressure, not at all.

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this is very true!! I have been really pulling back from the stampeed way of living and really slowing down, being gentle with myself the last 2 years. Nothing too intense and under preasure like you said!

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So, having Uranus cnj IC could point to a free from prejudice way of thinking (which may influence a lot the opposite point (MC)), strong intellectual capabilities and depending on where Pallas is placed, a stong pineal gland. ( This combo of uranus + sun 28º aquarius + leo rising could point to a celtic/gaelic heritage or to a Lyraen/ cat genes. The truth is... cat people look like... cat people

I'm saying this because you have your venus conj fixed star vega as well... there are many 'coincidences' in your chart that point to this, sorry if I am tiring you, but having a sun in a celtic degree + rising sign at 19º leo + Uranus cnj IC + venus conj fixed star vega + many other objects I'm probably missing, could this point to a royal-emphatic Lyraen DNA type? You seem to be free of egotism, this is a quality you must keep.

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I study alot about royalty / monarchy. It truly fascinates me. Going back and seeing pictures from olden times, castles, etc brings this very warm feeling in my heart. Almost like I am able to FEEL what it felt like to be living in that era. Like a feeling of "home'. Very connected to English history!

I have heard of the constellation Lyra before, but haven't done much research about it. Perhaps, I should start. I am more familiar with Orion and Sirius constellation.

posted October 31, 2015 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by bluestskies88:
THANK YOU again for your invaluable insights, it's really helpful for me at the moment. BIG LOVE

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posted November 01, 2015 10:30 AM            

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<<< north and south nodes karmic lessons? >>>

Aw,
it makes me kind of sad to end this reading with the kind of stuff I'm going to write about... but well, it's not really something bad but... just a bit unexpected/weird, yet easy to avoid I'd say
You chart is a pretty stable one, your few squares are about family members & fixed traditions against partnerships and freedom / perhaps some struggle when a routinary, mechanical work asphyxiates you, and that would be all I think...
But it gets really complex when taking in count your lunar nodes.

~ You have a direct north node !

Such placement is very, very rare and I've never done any interpretation for it before, so it will be my first time by doing yours
Ok, to do this I'm going to take in count your 'karmic links'. What I'm calling karmic links are simply the "overlays" that are expressed as conjunction between the placements of your tropical chart ( the chart you've posted ) with the placements of your draconic chart. These links are:

• Draconic sun conjunct tropical saturn ~ orb 1º
• Draconic mercury conj tropical north node ~ orb 0º 24'

Your south node is at 17º28' Pisces ( when an object is in the middle of a degree. it's better to read two sabian symbols if we can get some info about it )
1st symbol (17º) is : An easter parade
2nd symbol (18º) is : In a gigantic tent, villagers witness a spectacular performance

Now, here's what I don't understand very well; your two sabian symbols for your north node are:
17º virgo : A volcanic eruption
18º virgo : A ouija board

Ok,
I don't know with which kind of psychic ability you are familiar with, or you have developed. And I'm nobody to tell you what to do or what to decide, but one thing is sure for me, dear bluestskies. You should avoid risks while dealing with transpersonal communication, ( if it's your intention to do so, of course ). This is a very peculiar symbol, and kind of difficult to interpret... but again, I can only tell you what I know about it.
If we interpreat this symbol in a literally way, a ouija board is:

A spiritual object used to have (transpersonal) communication with those that have left 'this plane'; this is not channelship, this would be mediumship.
This method is not for use by most folks, because for example, in tarot/astrology you deal with your inner self, but when using transpersonal methods of mediumship, you don't really know with what you are dealing, or course this goes beyond any hollywood agressive marketing. Now, if we don't interpret this symbol literally and think of it as a channeling/mediumship symbol, then it'd mean that there's some risk in it.

You shouldn't attempt channeling from Astral, unleast you heal your Spiritual Connection with the one-universal God, (not the god from genesis 2) because any negative past life recall will traumatize you and allow you to be misused by 'dark forces'. If any dream, voice in a dream or direct contact while concious claims to be an Archangel like Michael, Gabriel or Uriel or some "EL", it is a guaranteed attempt to mislead you. No benevolent entity is going to ask you to do this or that, to believe in 'x' or 'y' as fact, that's pure manipulation, you have to figure your path out as a free-soul. Gnostics call such entities "archons", highly hostile beings most of the times with the sole purpouse of feeding on human's altered emotions, such as fear & pain are. That's why they demanded so much blood sacrifice around the world in such epochs; of course this is only my opinion, since I think so as well. And just in case some misunderstanding happens, this is not related with Jesus at all; I'm not a catholic but the message from Yeshua is a very different philosophy, ( different from blood sacrifice I mean lol ) that I personally like, yup!, I'd say so.

Aw, that was a bit off-topic I think.
Well,
here's my best try at interpreting your ultra rare and Direct north node:

• Nodes are most of the times retro because they are an evolutionary path, a path required for our own improvement and/or spiritual growth.
• This direct node of yours is conjunct your Draconic Mercury ( past )
• This draconic mercury is at 17º08', one sabian symbol is needed.

A volcanic eruption ~ could point to the destruction of a very, very ancient behavior ( represented as a natural formation, source of tension and accumulated energy )
if the classic intepretation for a (rx) node is our evolutionary path, then a direct north node would mean, leaving behind what was our task once upon a time, because regardless of our skill in the subject, it probably caused only tension and disruptive emotions in us.

So stay away from any risky transpersonal activity just in case

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Gem Birdy - thanks so much for this insight about my direct north node! doing some research about what's the meaning of it and based on the information you shared, it totally relates!

i feel like i am totally living a past life in this present life in order to learn ALOT of karmic stuff -- doing the inner work, and healing them to move forward!

in regards to the transpersonal communication, this also relates alot! i feel that i am able to feel and take messages from the 'other side' without me even trying to do so. I don't delve in the astral at all ... lol ... reality for me is challenging enough!

i don't believe in 'archons'. i've heard of the term before. Although, i good friend has recently passed, and i had a dream about him only a few days i received the news that he has passed, and also had this constant, quick, passing thoughts about him! (out of nowhere) it wasn't like i was wanting to think of him, it was more like the thoughts just came from somewhere ... then during my mourning period, i felt his energy. this used to bug me out, but not anymore. it's not anything scary or spooky at all.. only good vibes. it's like they are saying goodbye and sending much love and saying thank you

posted November 01, 2015 12:20 PM            

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*~ You're most welcome !

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Also, if there is anyway i am able to give back in exchange for your kindness in reading my chart, just let me know! I can do an intuitive reading if you'd like.