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Federal_Reserve
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posted November 12, 2015 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Federal_Reserve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone, I have decent problem. I'm too passive at times and I want to change this behaviour as it is crossing my life goals. Ill roll the dice and risk my life going for leadership & business adventure. I have great negotiating abilites, but I'm too passive at times, I need to bring LEO ascendant force at its fullest and go for full aggressive domination style in some circumstances. How do I materialize this ? How can I change my 'at' times too passive behaviour and at times I'm exploding like hell. Also , I need lions (roar) at times, and yet even though I have it and once I raise my voice everyone listens, I'm not using this too much and keeping to quet style.

I think it's already time for me to push for the limit, I've wasted too much of my life being 'whoever' I don't want to be. I'm quite smart, even though I'm pisces mercury I have tremendous analytical skills (investing in stock market & engineering).

I want to improve myself heavily. And I'm not going out of this so called earth without 'several' millions worth of shares.

Whoever helps me - I'm very very thankful.

Since I'm double pisces I stand for my visions. Vision is the joy and essence of my life, I'd rather die lonely and fulfill my dreams than be loved but unfulfilled.

And it's very very hard for me to cope. Because I constantly compare myself with 'other' people, putting myself in depressed mood, although once competition arises I want to play and I actually ENJOY fighting - BUT I'M TOO PASSIVE AND I NEED to change it. I MUST.

I feel lost at the moment, can someone bring me to reality for a moment ?

Here is my chart:

Planets & aspects:

Also, thanks...
P.S Sorry for grammar mistakes. I doubted for a moment should I post this at all and I've decided too, I really don't want to revisit text - because I might change my mind.
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Liliya
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posted November 12, 2015 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, you will probably get more replies, if you use a better read chart format.

Could you please post a chart generated from astro.com? So far it's the easiest to read and most used here on LL.

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Federal_Reserve
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posted November 13, 2015 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Federal_Reserve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Liliya:
Hey, you will probably get more replies, if you use a better read chart format.

Could you please post a chart generated from astro.com? So far it's the easiest to read and most used here on LL.


Thank you for this tip,

Changed chart to chart from astro.com

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posted November 13, 2015 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for msheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be honest I don't know much on Astrology - just basics and I haven't even finished my course on Astrology for Love/Rel lol.. so I don't know if it will be of help..

but.. I honestly don't think that would be so easy to do... with your Sun and Moon being on Pisces - even your house of communication Mercury is there.. your Mars is in Cancer.. Everything is watery here, lol..

Though, I guess.. one way you can start with is - w/ color therapy wearing more colors that represents Leo. (Orange, Gold, Yellow, etc) For me - there is such a thing and those colors has its own influences as well - plus it helps to balance :"you" by being too much watery making things on a passive scale.

Like.. wearing something of that color - painting your nails or so in that color - even with your drinks and what you eat - it has its application there..

It's like what they say "if you have too much water element in you - you need to do something to control and balance that" - what you wear, what color or vibe the place you are in (even your room) , what you eat - plays a role. That is color therapy and it has influences on the elements as well.

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posted November 13, 2015 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How to utilize LEO energy more aggressively ?

ME FIRST, ME ME ME ME, and what about ME ??? i want to go there !!! Where ? there !!!! where is the boss !!! here ! yeah ! who are you ? the boss !! move !!! this is my place now !!!

whereas the capricorn will say nothing, keep mouth shut, but his ambitious will lead him to impeach the place Leo manage to reach but
without claimings, noise blabla or self-agrandizment with determination

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posted November 13, 2015 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amorphis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As Leo asc. Scorpio, I can tell you that sometimes going for the goal without thinking helps a lot as well. Just don't overthink, don't dream, just go for it. Don't be afraid of making mistakes or failing. Failure is a part of process and most of the successful people also failed a lot of times before becoming heroes.. Just go for it

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posted November 13, 2015 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for msheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amorphis:
As Leo asc. Scorpio, I can tell you that sometimes going for the goal without thinking helps a lot as well. Just don't overthink, don't dream, just go for it. Don't be afraid of making mistakes or failing. Failure is a part of process and most of the successful people also failed a lot of times before becoming heroes.. Just go for it :)

Totally make sense.... but (not to think - overthink - over analyze - not to dream, fantasise, etc.. and get nervous and overwhelm and etc) lol would probably be hard for a Pisces..

(my assessment: after spending years with different pisces lol - from sun pisces, ascendant pisces, moon pisces - just for some reason they are always around me lol!)

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posted November 13, 2015 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Federal_Reserve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by msheart:
Totally make sense.... but (not to think - overthink - over analyze - not to dream, fantasise, etc.. and get nervous and overwhelm and etc) lol would probably be hard for a Pisces..

(my assessment: after spending years with different pisces lol - from sun pisces, ascendant pisces, moon pisces - just for some reason they are always around me lol!)


Do not be stereotypical.
In life you cannot count on similiarities to make conclusions. People wear similiar ties, but they work at different positions.

Also, you can never overthink anything, you can only make critical decisions badly or fail to make move.

I do not know about 'dreamy' part or what does it mean, when people call someone 'dreamy' it could mean a lot of things. So as I see no explanation towards that word I just ignore it. Unless you mean that we all go to sleep and dream, but that doesn't make sense now does it ?

I may have problems with my nerves, I won't argue, but I believe that does not come from pisces sign. I had difficult childhood, because I was problematic kid, I won't say I was raised badly - because I do not like to complain - it was my own fault and I hope to learn from it.

I have trouble recognising myself for who I am, thats why I'm nervous. It leads me to comparisions with (succesfull people) and then I lose myself completely because I'm not so yet. I need to fight with this urge somehow and I need help with that.

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Originally posted by amorphis:
As Leo asc. Scorpio, I can tell you that sometimes going for the goal without thinking helps a lot as well. Just don't overthink, don't dream, just go for it. Don't be afraid of making mistakes or failing. Failure is a part of process and most of the successful people also failed a lot of times before becoming heroes.. Just go for it

I think this is very basic stuff here. While I'm thankful, I think this tip is not something I have't done yet.
I think everyone understands that you have to fail. But part you did not mention is that in order to fail - you have to make first step and that first step ussualy comes from deep passion and hobbies so you have to find those first. As goes without saying "You don't have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great."

What I asked was not basic explanation.

It's not only about failure it's about obtaining wisdom. Wisdom always wins, no king should be king if hes not wise and no war was ever won by merely ambition.

My question was more about using energy more wisely. I do not think I'm weaker because I have 'poorer' signs, I never took scorpio as a enemy or as a 'powerfull' being just because of a mere sign.

You are who you want to be. - That goes without saying. People are not born to 'shine' they make themselves shine.

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Originally posted by msheart:
To be honest I don't know much on Astrology - just basics and I haven't even finished my course on Astrology for Love/Rel lol.. so I don't know if it will be of help..

but.. I honestly don't think that would be so easy to do... with your Sun and Moon being on Pisces - even your house of communication Mercury is there.. your Mars is in Cancer.. Everything is watery here, lol..

Though, I guess.. one way you can start with is - w/ color therapy wearing more colors that represents Leo. (Orange, Gold, Yellow, etc) For me - there is such a thing and those colors has its own influences as well - plus it helps to balance :"you" by being too much watery making things on a passive scale.

Like.. wearing something of that color - painting your nails or so in that color - even with your drinks and what you eat - it has its application there..

It's like what they say "if you have too much water element in you - you need to do something to control and balance that" - what you wear, what color or vibe the place you are in (even your room) , what you eat - plays a role. That is color therapy and it has influences on the elements as well.


I think clothing depends on style. I'm always with a suit. I do not like to look childlish - I tend to look like businessmen - because I like it. Suits, shirts, vests etc everything thats formal.
I think my part of leo comes here, I never look like a guy whose all shy and crying in the corner - I am that proud man, even If I have nothing going in my life I tend to look optimisticaly.

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Originally posted by visions:
How to utilize LEO energy more aggressively ?

ME FIRST, ME ME ME ME, and what about ME ??? i want to go there !!! Where ? there !!!! where is the boss !!! here ! yeah ! who are you ? the boss !! move !!! this is my place now !!!

whereas the capricorn will say nothing, keep mouth shut, but his ambitious will lead him to impeach the place Leo manage to reach but
without claimings, noise blabla or self-agrandizment with determination


Stereotypical capricorn is slow grower although he lacks communication & negotiating skills and I do not think so he's very good at growing as a group together - he's more authorative and thats why I will never take him for the strongest.

Leo is brave, ambitous and couragous I'll admit, but courage and bravery never win wars it's good at winning battles though.

And If you look at things from that perspective,

Mayer Amschel Rothschild, the banker who almost did rule the world with his family (lending to governments) affairs was pisces sun, cancer moon, pisces mars. Funny isn't it ? Seems weak I suppose, but it isn't - because Central Banking system is used to this day. Here you go, a person who should be 'weak' in fact is esentually stronger and more powerfull than any other sign.

For me, it seems that they are playing on their strenghts, can capricorn manipulate people as good as pisces ? I do not think so, riging the game and dealing people cards you chose to deal is essentialy still used to this day. No art is too hard to master, it only takes ones effort.


As I mentioned in my question, I asked how 'to' fight my passivness at times I want to be aggressive and how do I utilize my energy more efficiently.

And remember,

“Many shall be restored that now are fallen, and many shall fall that now are in honor. “
- Quintus Horatius Flaccus , ARS - POETICA.


Very happy with your replies so far, thank you for helping me!


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posted November 13, 2015 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have very similar charts!! That's kind of cool :-) I am a Pisces sun conjunct moon and Mercury with a Leo rising.

I always had people tell me I have leadership qualities and I never believed them. I have always felt like I am more powerful than I appear. I tend to keep my power hidden. I'm not bossy or domineering. But I'm not a pushover either. I, like you, stand up for what I believe in.

I am 30 now and it took me awhile to gain the level of self confidence I have always wanted. I am not cocky or anything but I am confident. I think this confidence took years to come about and with that I was able to step up more and speak my opinion about things I found to be important. You are a bit younger than me so maybe it will just take a little bit of time for you to develop your self awareness and confidence as well. All of this is within you, and I have a feeling if you try to rush it out that it will come across as insincere.

So how about for now, you continue to stand up for what you believe in. Try to develop and realize your self worth. You do not need to be loud and empowering to be a leader. Leaders also require great listening skills. They are fair and balanced, empathetic to other people's needs, and are able to assess and delineate situations under stress. People will not follow others who are solely domineering and aggressive. The Pisces energy provides a great balance to our fire ascendant.

As for displaying your energy, just be yourself. It will come out as it comes out. You don't need to try to be something you aren't, ever. Just because you have a Leo Ascendant doesn't mean you're going to feel like your a superstar all the time. It might come out in other ways- creativity, optimism, style, a good set of hair These are all the ways my Leo rising shines. Maybe yours are a bit different. But for now, enjoy life, take it as it comes, be who you are, and you'll be much happier :-)

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posted November 13, 2015 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When it comes to the ASC I would say just be yourself. The ASC is pretty effortless when it comes to sell-expression. You may actually be more Leonine than you think. BUT I would say that the very fact that you have a Scorpio IC may make you feel more synced with Scorpio energy. So that could be another thing

You have Merc in the 8th house and Sun and Moon in 7th. All these things may make you feel "other" oriented but it doesn't make you WEAK! The 7th house is a Leadership house. So maybe your Leo qualities will truly shine when you focus on cooperating with others and sharing your vision and truth with them!

Simply knowing who you are will allow you to manifest that energy productively (instead of narcissistically). Meditation and focus on your goals will help as well. I relate to you in some ways. Sometimes you don't know what to expect from others and how they are going to perceive you, but you gotta keep going. I myself have been carrying my own weight and dealing with my own pressures in life by myself and it gets easier once i remind myself I'm doing this for a cause bigger and greater than myself. It'll come, trust me..

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posted November 13, 2015 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amorphis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by msheart:
Totally make sense.... but (not to think - overthink - over analyze - not to dream, fantasise, etc.. and get nervous and overwhelm and etc) lol would probably be hard for a Pisces..

(my assessment: after spending years with different pisces lol - from sun pisces, ascendant pisces, moon pisces - just for some reason they are always around me lol!)


I can imagine My mom is a Pisces and we are completely different. But you being Pisces or having this Pisces character does not mean that you can't change it. Just try I know it sounds so easy to say it but just believe in yourself :3

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posted November 13, 2015 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Duh It seems like you are pushing yourself too hard to the limit when there is no need to do so, Federal_Reserve. You are still young and still can achieve much.
Just make sure that your attitude is not so overbearing that it becomes your pitfall.
Relax, boy, and enjoy life as it comes. Maybe that's what you have to do for now until you can clearly see the path ahead of yourself.

You can't help being passive (that's characteristic of Cancer Mars), so just deal with it, because you can most probably learn to use that for your own benefit.

In all honesty, your dreams are not much different from mine. Everyone I think wants to shine in their choosen career, and to pursue the dream they envision. And some would rather live fulfilled lives than unfulfilled ones even though they might be loved (although one thing guards no relationship with the other).

So are your dreams related to art? Because I thought the water in your chart might imply creative pursues.

This is an article I found. I know it's nothing to do with Astrology, but still it seems useful: [URL=http://allgroanup.com/twentysomething-life-2/7-gigantic-pitfalls-to-avoid-in-your-20s/]http://allgroanup.com/twentysomething-life-2/7-gigantic-pitfalls-to-avoid-in-your-20s/[/ URL]

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posted November 13, 2015 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Based on your chart, I think it aggressiveness wouldn't come as naturally to you as it would other Leo risers. Having your chart ruler in a selfless sign like Pisces will make you focus more on other people than yourself. Also, it's in the 7th house, which is another people-oriented house, making you extra selfless.

Somebody probably already mentioned this before, but having a passive Mars in Cancer doesn't help.

However, you do have the advantage of being able to manipulate others to get what you want with all that water in your chart. See, your strength lies on that and I think it's best to use that to combat your weakness instead of trying to change yourself into something you're not.

You probably can read people very easily and know their motivations at first glance. You can use that to your advantage.

You say you're pretty good with stock markets and stuff. I think that's Mercury in the 8th house trine Pluto playing out right there. If you put your mind into something, you can definitely achieve it.

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For some non-astrology related advice, I think you should just stop comparing yourself to people and just have a go at what you want. Being a Leo, I know how to "roar" and I can teach you lol, sort of. The key is to just be confident and have that idgaf attitude we Leos are known for. Whenever you start to doubt yourself or compare yourself to others, just think in your head:

"They're good at what they do, but I can do it better."

It sounds cocky, but the underlying message in it is just to be the best, if not in other people's eyes, in your own eyes. That is how you become confident.

Good luck

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posted November 15, 2015 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Federal_Reserve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Based on your chart, I think it aggressiveness wouldn't come as naturally to you as it would other Leo risers. Having your chart ruler in a selfless sign like Pisces will make you focus more on other people than yourself. Also, it's in the 7th house, which is another people-oriented house, making you extra selfless.

Somebody probably already mentioned this before, but having a passive Mars in Cancer doesn't help.

However, you do have the advantage of being able to manipulate others to get what you want with all that water in your chart. See, your strength lies on that and I think it's best to use that to combat your weakness instead of trying to change yourself into something you're not.

You probably can read people very easily and know their motivations at first glance. You can use that to your advantage.

You say you're pretty good with stock markets and stuff. I think that's Mercury in the 8th house trine Pluto playing out right there. If you put your mind into something, you can definitely achieve it.

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For some non-astrology related advice, I think you should just stop comparing yourself to people and just have a go at what you want. Being a Leo, I know how to "roar" and I can teach you lol, sort of. The key is to just be confident and have that idgaf attitude we Leos are known for. Whenever you start to doubt yourself or compare yourself to others, just think in your head:

"They're good at what they do, but I can do it better."

It sounds cocky, but the underlying message in it is just to be the best, if not in other people's eyes, in your own eyes. That is how you become confident.

Good luck



Thank you, I think you are right, I should Accept myself for what I am, strive to be better without changing my basis, just my behaviour and so on. I'm by nature workaholic, so striving to get better is in my nature. I have many Leo friends, probobly 70% of my friends are Leos, I like their attitude and they like mine, Forever optimistic. Doesn't suprise me at all that I like you as well .

quote:
Originally posted by Sikanda:
Duh It seems like you are pushing yourself too hard to the limit when there is no need to do so, Federal_Reserve. You are still young and still can achieve much.
Just make sure that your attitude is not so overbearing that it becomes your pitfall.
Relax, boy, and enjoy life as it comes. Maybe that's what you have to do for now until you can clearly see the path ahead of yourself.

You can't help being passive (that's characteristic of Cancer Mars), so just deal with it, because you can most probably learn to use that for your own benefit.

In all honesty, your dreams are not much different from mine. Everyone I think wants to shine in their choosen career, and to pursue the dream they envision. And some would rather live fulfilled lives than unfulfilled ones even though they might be loved (although one thing guards no relationship with the other).

So are your dreams related to art? Because I thought the water in your chart might imply creative pursues.

This is an article I found. I know it's nothing to do with Astrology, but still it seems useful: [URL=http://allgroanup.com/twentysomething-life-2/7-gigantic-pitfalls-to-avoid-in-your-20s/]http://allgroanup.com/twentysomething-life-2/7-gigantic-pitfalls-to-avoid-in-your-20s/[/ URL]


This is intresting, I'm very glad with your answer. I got hooked on art thing, because I never liked art, Honestly in past I did hate it, Nowadays I like historical paintings for collective purposes - somehow I appreciate it. Its interesting as you said, with all that water I tend to move away from ussual art, although I'm creative than it comes to branding and so on. Wouldn't say I'm very good at it either. I think water functions in making me very emotionall being, although my friends always say that I'm more aquarius than pisces, cause I'm very logical and rather analytical, rational. When they do not see it, I'm emotional and can burst into flames or tears for no reason.

<3 thank you.

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posted November 15, 2015 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, you are welcome . Interesting. And have to ever felt attracted to music? To express through it? I've read there's a correlation between music and maths skills.

Art used to be my favourite subject though. So you see, I am a Virgo (the analytical sign) with Capricorn and Libra and I consider myself an artist. In fact I'd love to find an art related job (something stable). Even though I see myself as loving (libra Venus) I'm not usually very emotional.

You know I just checked something. I don't know if you believe in the Chinese horoscope, but according to the year you were born you are a Rooster and one of their main characteristics is that they are hard working and analytical (the Rooster corresponds to Virgo in the Western horoscope).

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posted November 16, 2015 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Federal_Reserve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ok, you are welcome . Interesting. And have to ever felt attracted to music? To express through it? I've read there's a correlation between music and maths skills.

Art used to be my favourite subject though. So you see, I am a Virgo (the analytical sign) with Capricorn and Libra and I consider myself an artist. In fact I'd love to find an art related job (something stable). Even though I see myself as loving (libra Venus) I'm not usually very emotional.

You know I just checked something. I don't know if you believe in the Chinese horoscope, but according to the year you were born you are a Rooster and one of their main characteristics is that they are hard working and analytical (the Rooster corresponds to Virgo in the Western horoscope).


Hey ,thanks.

On music - I like it, mostly classical , jazz or anything relaxing really. I wouldn't like to express myself through it. I wouldn't say I'm gifted for music or any form of art. Ussualy creative people tend to understand world a bit of different. Art is not my thing. When I was child I did paint, but didn't really enjoy it, although most of people did paint back then or now when they are young. Although I like math and was appereantly good in school and university at it, maths & physics. Later I spend all my free time, reading books about banking and so on. I enjoy history and long disscusions about politics. Most of my friends are from political background. I wouldn't say I'm into it. I just like talking about it, instead on focusing every day needs and so on.

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