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Mars/Pluto Emperor
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posted November 30, 2015 02:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My boyfriend and I were arguing about leadership,and when I asked him what did he think he was,he said "I'm a leader,I don't let anyone boss me around." And He is a very stubborn person,and somewhat emotional deep down.he was recently going on about him wanting to be an entrepreneur and run his own company as a career,also he says he wants to be into politics for power.should I be worried? I did his natal chart.


Does he honestly have leadership ability? Or is he a follower deep down? I never really see him following orders without complaining or getting angry over it.he also is controlling and impulsive,so whenever I say I want something,he instantly goes dictator mode on not only me,but on everyone he knows.

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GeminiKarat
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posted November 30, 2015 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
May I ask:
Is the time of birth correct?

Because a Leo loves to say things like

quote:
.. "I'm a leader,I don't let anyone boss me around." ....

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Mars/Pluto Emperor
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posted November 30, 2015 08:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
May I ask:
Is the time of birth correct?

Because a Leo loves to say things like


Yes it's accurate! I really don't understand why he likes being the boss. He has Uranus in 6th and Leo north node so maybe that is what makes him that way?

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furrybunny
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posted November 30, 2015 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for furrybunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or maybe he's trying to convince himself and u he's a leader? Natural leaders don't need to state that out loud. Watching him wih people should tell u whether or not he's a leader.

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GeminiKarat
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posted November 30, 2015 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mars/Pluto Emperor:
Yes it's accurate! I really don't understand why he likes being the boss. He has Uranus in 6th and Leo north node so maybe that is what makes him that way?

Thank you very much for the information!

I do see a yod in his chart as well as the cappy sun and the virgo rising are both earth signs and do have the tendecy to serve and not to leadlike analyzing the law or a doctor. I am not an astrologer, but I assume his statement could have something to do with his 3rd house ruled by pluto/mars.

I wish you luck on your further research!

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Mars/Pluto Emperor
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posted November 30, 2015 03:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or maybe he's trying to convince himself and u he's a leader? Natural leaders don't need to state that out loud. Watching him wih people should tell u whether or not he's a leader.

I've been with him and his friends a few times,and he tends to be confident with his friends,though he picks on someone in the group,which is why I punch him in the arm for doing so lol. And He seems to always seem like one of the "big" people in the group.And maybe you are right,though I never mentioned to him about his behavior until recently that I've talked to him about it,he seems to want power over others,which personally does not make a good leader,more of a dictator perhaps.

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athenegoddess
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posted November 30, 2015 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't this your chart Mars/Emperor?

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candycrush
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posted December 01, 2015 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for candycrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I normally wouldn't call anyone out on this, but this is your chart. I remember because I responded to one of your (numerous) posts about your Mars in Pisces. I'm going to tell you what I told you then because it seems to be something you more or less obsess over (I don't recall any of your other posts being about any other subject other than Mars in Pisces, which is how I knew this was your chart, and how it effects ego/leadership): I know nothing about astrology, so I don't know where your severe lack of confidence comes from. You seem to look to your chart as a form of validation. It's as if you're desperate to hear "oh, yes, this is a chart of a very powerful and confident leader!" If you had true confidence and a drive for power and top positions, you would need a birth chart or anything else to validate those feelings, they'd be so much a part of you that even if you were a Pisces through and through it wouldn't make a difference because your mind would be made up that you are a natural leader who exudes confidence. You may WANT and DESIRE to be powerful, to be better than everyone else, and to have leadership skills--but then again, who doesn't want that? The average person desires just that. But when your lack of confidence is evident through a forum, I can only imagine how obvious it must be in real life. No, regardless of what your chart says, it doesn't seem you have the confidence to be leader--you question yourself too much and require validation. I hate to use this trash as an example, but Donald Trump doesn't need astrology telling him he's good enough or anyone else, he knew it since he was a child and nothing could change his mind, he did his thing and now he's a billionaire (and a moron, an idiot savant). You on the other hand are obsessed over Mars in pisces and making posts asking if your "boyfriend" has leadership potential in a desperate attempt to once again encourage you--which is not how a person born with confidence and drive for powerful positions seeks encouragement. It's how an insecure teenagers with typical dreams and aspirations of being rich and powerful seek validation.

And yes, this is your chart, before you decide to be dishonest again: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/017419.html

I'm not calling you out for this for any other reason other than to tell you: 1) if you're a teenager, this is normal for your age group--being power hungry and ego-oriented and wanting the whole world. 2) if you're not a teenager, than it's time to accept you don't seem to have the natural confidence (or leadership skills/ability, or you wouldn't have to ask if you have it, you'd already know by now).

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Mars/Pluto Emperor
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posted December 02, 2015 02:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well excuse me for accusing,my boyfriend and I share the same account,I put my/his natal chart in this site too,he found out about it and decided to start posting here,since I've used it before.calling me dishonest is quite rude of you honestly,implying my boyfriend is insecure without even knowing him is just ridiculous.please know what you are talking about next time...

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Mars/Pluto Emperor
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posted December 02, 2015 02:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by candycrush:
I normally wouldn't call anyone out on this, but this is your chart. I remember because I responded to one of your (numerous) posts about your Mars in Pisces. I'm going to tell you what I told you then because it seems to be something you more or less obsess over (I don't recall any of your other posts being about any other subject other than Mars in Pisces, which is how I knew this was your chart, and how it effects ego/leadership): I know nothing about astrology, so I don't know where your severe lack of confidence comes from. You seem to look to your chart as a form of validation. It's as if you're desperate to hear "oh, yes, this is a chart of a very powerful and confident leader!" If you had true confidence and a drive for power and top positions, you would need a birth chart or anything else to validate those feelings, they'd be so much a part of you that even if you were a Pisces through and through it wouldn't make a difference because your mind would be made up that you are a natural leader who exudes confidence. You may WANT and DESIRE to be powerful, to be better than everyone else, and to have leadership skills--but then again, who doesn't want that? The average person desires just that. But when your lack of confidence is evident through a forum, I can only imagine how obvious it must be in real life. No, regardless of what your chart says, it doesn't seem you have the confidence to be leader--you question yourself too much and require validation. I hate to use this trash as an example, but Donald Trump doesn't need astrology telling him he's good enough or anyone else, he knew it since he was a child and nothing could change his mind, he did his thing and now he's a billionaire (and a moron, an idiot savant). You on the other hand are obsessed over Mars in pisces and making posts asking if your "boyfriend" has leadership potential in a desperate attempt to once again encourage you--which is not how a person born with confidence and drive for powerful positions seeks encouragement. It's how an insecure teenagers with typical dreams and aspirations of being rich and powerful seek validation.

And yes, this is your chart, before you decide to be dishonest again: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/017419.html

I'm not calling you out for this for any other reason other than to tell you: 1) if you're a teenager, this is normal for your age group--being power hungry and ego-oriented and wanting the whole world. 2) if you're not a teenager, than it's time to accept you don't seem to have the natural confidence (or leadership skills/ability, or you wouldn't have to ask if you have it, you'd already know by now).



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Mars/Pluto Emperor
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posted December 02, 2015 02:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by candycrush:
I normally wouldn't call anyone out on this, but this is your chart. I remember because I responded to one of your (numerous) posts about your Mars in Pisces. I'm going to tell you what I told you then because it seems to be something you more or less obsess over (I don't recall any of your other posts being about any other subject other than Mars in Pisces, which is how I knew this was your chart, and how it effects ego/leadership): I know nothing about astrology, so I don't know where your severe lack of confidence comes from. You seem to look to your chart as a form of validation. It's as if you're desperate to hear "oh, yes, this is a chart of a very powerful and confident leader!" If you had true confidence and a drive for power and top positions, you would need a birth chart or anything else to validate those feelings, they'd be so much a part of you that even if you were a Pisces through and through it wouldn't make a difference because your mind would be made up that you are a natural leader who exudes confidence. You may WANT and DESIRE to be powerful, to be better than everyone else, and to have leadership skills--but then again, who doesn't want that? The average person desires just that. But when your lack of confidence is evident through a forum, I can only imagine how obvious it must be in real life. No, regardless of what your chart says, it doesn't seem you have the confidence to be leader--you question yourself too much and require validation. I hate to use this trash as an example, but Donald Trump doesn't need astrology telling him he's good enough or anyone else, he knew it since he was a child and nothing could change his mind, he did his thing and now he's a billionaire (and a moron, an idiot savant). You on the other hand are obsessed over Mars in pisces and making posts asking if your "boyfriend" has leadership potential in a desperate attempt to once again encourage you--which is not how a person born with confidence and drive for powerful positions seeks encouragement. It's how an insecure teenagers with typical dreams and aspirations of being rich and powerful seek validation.

And yes, this is your chart, before you decide to be dishonest again: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/017419.html

I'm not calling you out for this for any other reason other than to tell you: 1) if you're a teenager, this is normal for your age group--being power hungry and ego-oriented and wanting the whole world. 2) if you're not a teenager, than it's time to accept you don't seem to have the natural confidence (or leadership skills/ability, or you wouldn't have to ask if you have it, you'd already know by now).



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GeminiKarat
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posted December 02, 2015 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The chart is that of an 15 year old person.
I would recommend an apology to those who tried to help you.

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erickaf
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posted December 02, 2015 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for erickaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I knew this kid was a serious troll from the start. Hope he gets banned. Get your weak a s s Pisces Mars out of here lol!

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