posted December 18, 2015 03:12 AM            

I'll get right into it, there's this guy who is a friend of mine, that I'm falling deeply in love with. I've never felt this way about anyone before and I swear I feel a soulmate connection. I sense he feels this too. I decided to look at his natal chart and the more I saw, the more worried I got. Then I added asteroids and it got really scary. He has many worrisome aspects but to name just a few:

Moon in leo square sun (scorpio) pluto (scorpio)
Moon trine Eris and uranus
Venus conjunct saturn
Nessus square Venus
Neptune quincunx mars
Neptune square north node
Neptune oppose chiron
lucifer sextile sun and ascendant
lucifer trine praesepe
lucifer conjunct eros
Alogol oppose lucifer and square lust
lust square midheaven
desdemona sextile sun, square mar, jupiter and psyche...

Desdemona in the 12th house, nessus in the 8th and those are the only things in those two houses.

Mars/saturn midpoint in scorpio 21 23' and sun lays at 20 23' scorpio

Sun/venus 1 01' and saturn/pluto 0 04' midpoint both in sag...Lucifer lays at 1 57'....

and so forth and so on
I just need second opinions on what I'm seeing. It's very possible that I'm just freaking out over nothing..But is the wonderful, intense man I know a danger to me?

posted December 18, 2015 03:27 AM            

Venus aspected by saturn especially a hard aspect indicates a man who is disrespectful of women and femininity, who considers femininity as something inferior. These type of men also usually lack a good social life, unless other indications of social interactions are very strong.

But saying that someone is a "serial killer" just because of their planets aspecting the more malefic planets is a bit over the top.

posted December 18, 2015 03:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Spica:
If you could post his chart I can see if he's dangerous or not but sorry I don't use the asteroid technique.

Venus aspected by saturn especially a hard aspect indicates a man who is disrespectful of women and femininity, who considers femininity as something inferior. These type of men also usually lack a good social life, unless other indications of social interactions are very strong.

But saying that someone is a "serial killer" just because of their planets aspecting the more malefic planets is a bit over the top.

A strong plutonian person can either be a terrorist, or he/she can be a great psychologist. It depends on a person how they use their birth chart aspects.

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posted December 18, 2015 03:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Julz87:
Spica, a hard aspect would be Venus Saturn conjunct as well? for "is disrespectful of women and femininity"

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posted December 18, 2015 09:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Spica:
Yes that would be considered a bad aspect too since saturn has nothing positive to offer to venus.

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That is an oversimplified and ridiculous generalization of one single aspect. Actually Venus/Saturn conjunctions make people take love very seriously, and they will not jump into relationships unless they feel it has lasting potential. As someone with a Venus/Saturn conjunction I think this is a very positive side of this aspect. Unless they have other factors in their chart that make them more flighty, they will be extremely committed in relationships.

Same goes for his Scorpio and Leo placements. I think the most concerning aspect is his Sun and Pluto squaring his Moon. This would make him a very emotionally intense person.

posted December 18, 2015 05:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
That is an oversimplified and ridiculous generalization of one single aspect. Actually Venus/Saturn conjunctions make people take love very seriously, and they will not jump into relationships unless they feel it has lasting potential. As someone with a Venus/Saturn conjunction I think this is a very positive side of this aspect. Unless they have other factors in their chart that make them more flighty, they will be extremely committed in relationships.

Same goes for his Scorpio and Leo placements. I think the most concerning aspect is his Sun and Pluto squaring his Moon. This would make him a very emotionally intense person.

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That's your opinion. And you can have whatever opinion you like there's no point in arguing. But I completely disagree with it.

From what I've seen, the people who have venus/saturn strong aspect, especially conjunction, are reserved, shy, awkward, not very easygoing, not very lucky in relationships. They don't have a good social life.

Unless venus is conjunct with saturn in libra, that's a whole different meaning. People with venus and saturn conjunct in libra are again, very serious. But they tend to have very high quality and rich taste, like serious business parties or stuff like that, they are very fair-minded and just people, make very good lawyers, have very good taste in fashion.

Because Saturn is exalted in Libra, so it brings out its best qualities. And venus is in domicile in Libra.

Have you ever heard about planets in detriment, domicile, fall and exaltation?

Maybe you should do that. It will open your eyes.

I used to use modern astrology techniques. They never worked for me. They were too general and made up. It's not even real astrology in my opinion.

I use traditional techniques and when I do readings for people using traditional techniques people are shocked that I can tell what event happened when in their life, their childhood, their upbringing, etc. Stuff they never told anyone, I can tell them.

You can't disagree with me if you don't understand something. That's just the response of the ego.

I, on the other hand, have a reason to disagree with you. And that's because I was in your place once.

If you haven't tried traditional techniques are never read any other astrology books than modern ones you don't have the right to say I'm wrong. You do have the right to say that you don't understand where my explanations came from though.

posted December 18, 2015 09:15 PM            

ooo spica is venus conjunct saturn in capricorn just as bad?

posted December 19, 2015 04:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Spica:
That's your opinion. And you can have whatever opinion you like there's no point in arguing. But I completely disagree with it.

From what I've seen, the people who have venus/saturn strong aspect, especially conjunction, are reserved, shy, awkward, not very easygoing, not very lucky in relationships. They don't have a good social life.

Unless venus is conjunct with saturn in libra, that's a whole different meaning. People with venus and saturn conjunct in libra are again, very serious. But they tend to have very high quality and rich taste, like serious business parties or stuff like that, they are very fair-minded and just people, make very good lawyers, have very good taste in fashion.

Because Saturn is exalted in Libra, so it brings out its best qualities. And venus is in domicile in Libra.

Have you ever heard about planets in detriment, domicile, fall and exaltation?

Maybe you should do that. It will open your eyes.

I used to use modern astrology techniques. They never worked for me. They were too general and made up. It's not even real astrology in my opinion.

I use traditional techniques and when I do readings for people using traditional techniques people are shocked that I can tell what event happened when in their life, their childhood, their upbringing, etc. Stuff they never told anyone, I can tell them.

You can't disagree with me if you don't understand something. That's just the response of the ego.

I, on the other hand, have a reason to disagree with you. And that's because I was in your place once.

If you haven't tried traditional techniques are never read any other astrology books than modern ones you don't have the right to say I'm wrong. You do have the right to say that you don't understand where my explanations came from though.

Just don't mix these two things.

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Your other responses were making blanket statements about a single aspect. I wouldn't want want anyone to judge my character based on one aspect alone without looking at the big picture. People read these opinions and form impressions of others based on these types of statements, so it's best not to single out any one aspect.

I wasn't referring to anything that I read in books, I was speaking of my own personal experience. I trust my own judgement and life experience above all, not what I read in books. Also, I am not influenced by ego. Your responses suggest that you are.

I do in fact have Venus conjunct Saturn in Libra(8th house) and I know that this is a more fortunate placement of this pair, since these planets are domicile and exalted. I can relate to the more positive interpretations of the conjunction, although it's not always an easy aspect to have. I'm definitely reserved, but not for lack of self esteem or self worth, or disliking other people...especially women. I just don't like superficial people or relationships, I don't even bother. I have very few friends, but that's just fine with me. Most people's "friends" are at best acquaintances that don't really know them. I do agree with your comments about being fair minded, having good fashion sense, and the business party thing. I have a total of 5 Libra planets, and I feel like they really shine in the type of social settings which require me to charm people. Not in a fake way, just putting my best foot forward so to speak. I refuse to kiss anyone's ass, even if I was meeting the president.

I'm also a Scorpio Sun with a Moon/Pluto conjunction(also in the 8th). I feel that I'm dealing with many of the same planetary energies as the guy in question, although conjunctions are easier to conquer than squares.

That being said, isolating one aspect is not a good way to judge a person's character. That was the point I was trying to make.

posted December 19, 2015 05:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:

That being said, isolating one aspect is not a good way to judge a person's character. That was the point I was trying to make.

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