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candycrush
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posted January 12, 2016 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for candycrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mincey, here it is and sorry for the delay! I've had a pretty busy personal life the last week or so, but here it is now

In Bangkok, Thailand:

Ascendant in Aries: Ambitious, impulsive, and assertive. You are likely argumentative, but not to be obnoxious, you simply like things your way and are demanding when it comes to getting what you want.

Sun and Saturn in the 11th: Sun in pisces in the 11th You're a people/humanity oriented person and you like to do things in your own way and are creative. You prefer individuality and adding your own taste to things to the mundane and typical. However, in Thailand, you probably had an innate feeling of loneliness and perhaps had a hard time making friends. Saturn in the 11th may also indicate you probably felt like no matter how hard you tried, you couldn't make your wishes come true. You felt a block in friendships/making friends and making aspirations into a reality.

Moon in Aries in the 12th: You can be hot-headed and impulsive. You are ambitious and want things done your way, but moon in the 12th adds a touch of deep sensitivity and you are intuitive. You're creative, maybe psychic or simply can feel you have a 6th sense. You're easily hurt or affected by your surroundings.

Mercury in Pisces in the 12th: Deeply compassionate, intuitive and emotional. You're perhaps not very verbally expressive and can best express yourself through art or writing, or some other creative form. You have a knack for the arts and perhaps get very easily lost in fantasies and you day dream a lot.

Venus in the 12th: This placement usually indicates attracting people who are somehow unavailable or bad for you--addicts, guys who want sex while you want something deeper and more committed, cheaters, married men..etc. It indicates secret love affairs or may indicate that you fantasize about a true love but cannot seem to find him. Relationships are not easy for you. At least not in Thailand.

Pluto in the 7th: You want intense, powerful and meaningful relationships. You either attract powerful and/or obsessive men, you are that way (obsessive, sexual, powerful), or your relationships tend to be raw, dramatic, and perhaps obsessive/secretive. Maybe you attracted rich men or men of a higher status than you.

Chiron in the 5th: No luck in the romance/fun department. Either dating never came easily for you or you overwork yourself so much that you never seem to have any fun. Romance, dating, the social scene were probably not the best in Thailand.

Jupiter in the 6th: Can indicate good health and/or good opportunities in finding and getting jobs that you enjoy.

Mars in the 3rd can mean that maybe when you talk you tend to sound very self-assured, maybe a little aggressive, and you are perhaps someone who tends to get into verbal spats easily even if you don't want to. Could also indicate tension with siblings.

Virginia Beach (not sure if you've lived there or simply vacationed, perhaps some of all this detail would make more sense if you've actually lived there versus just vacation):

Libra ascendant: You are just, fair-minded, enjoy socializing and have a reserved approach. You perhaps like law or simply want fairness for everyone.

Sun and Mercury in the 5th: You feel childlike, free, optimistic and happy here. You can express yourself creatively and are generally in bright spirits.

Moon in the 7th: Your mind is either on relationships (romantic) or making connections and socializing is on your mind. You are subconsciously wanting to create links with people.

Mars in the 9th: You are actively seeking to roam and explore new cultures, and most of your drive and energy is directed toward travel/learning about different cultures, expanding your knowledge, and ambitious in terms of education/learning/expanding. Maybe higher education is somewhere where you tend to exert your ambition and drive.

Saturn in the 4th: Home life is a bit of a problem here. There is tension in the home or you are having bad luck finding a place to live that you actually like. Perhaps your neighbors are not likable.

Chiron in the 10th: Career life is not good. Career here is a source of stress and pain and you feel restricted, blocked, and helpless in terms of career here. You are struggling to get ahead but cannot seem to find a breakthrough.

Pluto in the 2nd: You are perhaps very concerned with money and resources here and have your mind set on acquiring wealth and a strong position in life.

Jupiter in the 12th: You are likely not depressed much in Virginia Beach. Jupiter in the 12th indicates you're in good touch with your spiritual and perhaps religious side. Your intuition works well in your favor.

Venus in the 6th may indicate your love of working with people and getting along beautifully with people.

The positions stay exactly the same in Ithaca, NY so that means whether you lived in Ithaca or Virginia Beach the general outcome would be the same/not much change. You would desire fun, relaxation, social events and creating friendships/partnerships, and your mind would be on making good money and being in a position of power and authority, but the area of career would be an almost constant struggle, pain, and disappointment. Home life/family life would also be a bit tense or unideal.

Let me know what I got right and wrong, and thank you for letting me practice on your chart!

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posted January 13, 2016 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MinceyMouse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mincey, here it is and sorry for the delay! I've had a pretty busy personal life the last week or so, but here it is now

In Bangkok, Thailand:

Ascendant in Aries: Ambitious, impulsive, and assertive. You are likely argumentative, but not to be obnoxious, you simply like things your way and are demanding when it comes to getting what you want.

[this is me regardless of location]

Sun and Saturn in the 11th: Sun in pisces in the 11th You're a people/humanity oriented person and you like to do things in your own way and are creative. You prefer individuality and adding your own taste to things to the mundane and typical. However, in Thailand, you probably had an innate feeling of loneliness and perhaps had a hard time making friends. Saturn in the 11th may also indicate you probably felt like no matter how hard you tried, you couldn't make your wishes come true. You felt a block in friendships/making friends and making aspirations into a reality.

[Not really humanity oriented, but more learning oriented. I like learning new things, and the typical job requires you to do the same thing over and over again. That bores me to death. Making friends is easy, sustaining the relationship is not. When in Bangkok/Jakarta (same timezone and it's where i grew up), I knew I could not reach my career or relationship goals.]

Moon in Aries in the 12th: You can be hot-headed and impulsive. You are ambitious and want things done your way, but moon in the 12th adds a touch of deep sensitivity and you are intuitive. You're creative, maybe psychic or simply can feel you have a 6th sense. You're easily hurt or affected by your surroundings.

[Yes, I can be hurt easily, but I also logic the hurt out to be able to survive. I am intuitive, or I wouldn't have done readings on this forum.. I am ambitious- I know what I want in terms of career. Additionally, I am creative- it started with fine art, but now it's more like finding a way to jump through the hoops.]

Mercury in Pisces in the 12th: Deeply compassionate, intuitive and emotional. You're perhaps not very verbally expressive and can best express yourself through art or writing, or some other creative form. You have a knack for the arts and perhaps get very easily lost in fantasies and you day dream a lot.

[I'm working on my communication skills. I tend to ramble a lot in real life, but when you give me a blank paper and ask me to pen something down, I will and it is usually succinct and gets the point across. I do day-dream a lot, but they don't tend to be fantasies. Note that the daydreams tend to also be intuitive insight.]

Venus in the 12th: This placement usually indicates attracting people who are somehow unavailable or bad for you--addicts, guys who want sex while you want something deeper and more committed, cheaters, married men..etc. It indicates secret love affairs or may indicate that you fantasize about a true love but cannot seem to find him. Relationships are not easy for you. At least not in Thailand.

[I never had a romantic relationship in Bangkok/Jakarta. At all. All the people I was interested in were taken. The people I had crushes on eventually turned into heartbreak.]

Pluto in the 7th: You want intense, powerful and meaningful relationships. You either attract powerful and/or obsessive men, you are that way (obsessive, sexual, powerful), or your relationships tend to be raw, dramatic, and perhaps obsessive/secretive. Maybe you attracted rich men or men of a higher status than you.

[I was intense and meaningful relationships. Perhaps this wouldn't mean obsessive, but more of a D/S sexual relationship which would make more sense. I don't usually look at the wealth of the person.]

Chiron in the 5th: No luck in the romance/fun department. Either dating never came easily for you or you overwork yourself so much that you never seem to have any fun. Romance, dating, the social scene were probably not the best in Thailand.

[This is true. Any country I'm in, this is true. ]

Jupiter in the 6th: Can indicate good health and/or good opportunities in finding and getting jobs that you enjoy.

[I did find a job in Jakarta which I enjoyed, but only after a load of headaches from job hunting and contract positions.]

Mars in the 3rd can mean that maybe when you talk you tend to sound very self-assured, maybe a little aggressive, and you are perhaps someone who tends to get into verbal spats easily even if you don't want to. Could also indicate tension with siblings.

[No siblings at all. I don't usually get into spats. The people I spend my time with know that I like to debate it out and usually never take my sarcasm to heart. I love those guys.]

Virginia Beach (not sure if you've lived there or simply vacationed, perhaps some of all this detail would make more sense if you've actually lived there versus just vacation): [I'm back in Ithaca and will be staying here until August]

Libra ascendant: You are just, fair-minded, enjoy socializing and have a reserved approach. You perhaps like law or simply want fairness for everyone.

[I like law. In fact, that is what I do.]

Sun and Mercury in the 5th: You feel childlike, free, optimistic and happy here. You can express yourself creatively and are generally in bright spirits.

[Not really, I dislike being in a remote place. I've always been fond of a big city. I am able to express my creativity anywhere I go.. ]

Moon in the 7th: Your mind is either on relationships (romantic) or making connections and socializing is on your mind. You are subconsciously wanting to create links with people.

[And consciously.. I need to network to get a job. That is what I am doing. My mind is on the romantic also.]

Mars in the 9th: You are actively seeking to roam and explore new cultures, and most of your drive and energy is directed toward travel/learning about different cultures, expanding your knowledge, and ambitious in terms of education/learning/expanding. Maybe higher education is somewhere where you tend to exert your ambition and drive.

[I am currently doing a masters. I am expanding my knowledge base and am learning.]

Saturn in the 4th: Home life is a bit of a problem here. There is tension in the home or you are having bad luck finding a place to live that you actually like. Perhaps your neighbors are not likable.

[Not an issue. I like my flat a lot. It's much, much better than the other places and is convenient. Neighbours keep to themselves and I'm really happy about that. Mind you, I don't like being in Ithaca which is a slightly different point. I have family in VB, but it was all good. Tension is between mum and I- she is in Jakarta, and I am here and that adds to our communication issues.]

Chiron in the 10th: Career life is not good. Career here is a source of stress and pain and you feel restricted, blocked, and helpless in terms of career here. You are struggling to get ahead but cannot seem to find a breakthrough.

[Seems like it, but I am hopeful things will change.]

Pluto in the 2nd: You are perhaps very concerned with money and resources here and have your mind set on acquiring wealth and a strong position in life.

[Ambition is to be financially independent and debt-free.]

Jupiter in the 12th: You are likely not depressed much in Virginia Beach. Jupiter in the 12th indicates you're in good touch with your spiritual and perhaps religious side. Your intuition works well in your favor.

[Not depressed- I have my medical condition under control. I am in touch with my spiritual side, but not too much with the religious. Intuition works well.]

Venus in the 6th may indicate your love of working with people and getting along beautifully with people.

[I work well independently and in a team. It's a give and take, and I put all the cards on the table.]

The positions stay exactly the same in Ithaca, NY so that means whether you lived in Ithaca or Virginia Beach the general outcome would be the same/not much change. You would desire fun, relaxation, social events and creating friendships/partnerships, and your mind would be on making good money and being in a position of power and authority, but the area of career would be an almost constant struggle, pain, and disappointment. Home life/family life would also be a bit tense or unideal.

Let me know what I got right and wrong, and thank you for letting me practice on your chart!


[Thank you so much for the reading. I think you were more correct than incorrect.. that is nothing short of amazing.]

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posted January 13, 2016 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MinceyMouse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
query- Chiron in 10th isn't a bad thing, is it? looking it up, and it seems to be an okish placement.

Chiron in 10th:
"The lesson for Chiron in the Tenth has to do with finding true purpose on the Earth plane. The tenth house is about goals, achievement and recognition, and always implies a great deal of drive and motivation. When the effort is on behalf of a transpersonal vision, it becomes a sacred purpose. With Chiron here, you have authority, though you may try not to own it. You have great power, which could create conflicts in your being. Your only solution and healing are to accept the power inherent within you. This may typically happen around the time of the 'Saturn return', between the ages of 28 and 30. At that time you are more able to separate from the projections of parents and other role models from childhood. If you were pushed to achieve, you may have a reactionary aversion to success and power. The key to your Chironic realization is the mastery of power as a sacred gift. The more you can identify your power expression and live it out, the more you will both find your healing and give your ultimate gift."

and

Chiron in Leo:
"Your healing path will be a creative and joyful one, your greatest challenge being that of identifying personal will and ego as opposed to the 'higher will', or soul-essence. The greater your level of creativity, the more tempting it is to claim it for the personal ego, but to do so diminishes the flow of inspiration. The key is the realization that the personality and ego are conduits, the inspiration comes from beyond that level. It is not about attempting to destroy personal ego, that could be a danger for you until you have developed the ability to handle the pure Uranian energy. Chiron's role is to bridge from Saturn limitation to Uranus inspiration and liberation. These issues are brought keenly into focus wherever he appears in your chart, and the house describes the area of life in which the drama is played out. Your deepest need in this is probably to identify your purpose as clearly as possible, and to honor the creative process as your path of initiation. Your will is key, and the more you bring it into resonance with the cosmic will, the more your path will be a celebratory one."

Source: http://members.wizzards.net/~magyan/chiron.htm

Looked at this, too: http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJGlvoAYO0g


But, OMG, this made so much sense to me (I hide):

"Chiron represents psychological/emotional issues that have developed during the childhood, which the native usually finds very difficult to overcome. Chironic issues may manifest as chronic illnesses or feelings of inadequacy in the areas they influence. Chiron also represents areas where a native has keen insights, often beyond their years and an ability or interest in teaching others how to be more efficient.

Chiron(Leo) in the 10th house suggests that the native had a very domineering, arrogant and selfish parent that may have tried to make the native a carbon copy of themselves. The native may feel innately inadequate, as though nothing they do is good enough, or that they are unimportant/worthless due to this influence. They may have a strong desire to express themselves creatively, dramatically or express their individuality and uniqueness, but these efforts were likely frowned upon by the parents, who may have been very strict and controlling. In adult life the native may react to this in two manners: either by expressing themselves in a melodramatic, selfish narcissistic manner or by hiding from any spotlight, and depreciating their own talents; especially if Saturn(Aquarius) opposes Chiron from the 4th house.

Often with this placement the native must overcome their own feelings of worthlessness and learn to express themselves as they are. The native may have a keen ability to see the talents and potential in others, often with an inclination to aid them to shine.

The link expired so I was unable to modify the interpretation based on other influences."

Source: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120420075308AAtASiq

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candycrush
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posted January 13, 2016 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for candycrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you MinceyMouse! Well, chiron in the 10th can mean that you struggle with finding a career and/or can't seem to advance, but also it can mean that even if you DO advance and have a good career, you are often dissatisfied because it doesn't feel like enough, you feel incompetent, unappreciated etc. It plays or differently for different people, but pretty much means pain or dissatisfaction in terms of career or public recognition. I have a couple questions of you don't mind! You said you never had a date when you lived in Thailand (venus in the 12th, saturn in the 11th and chiron in the 5th could have a lot to do with that), and then you went on to say that you feel the chiron in the 5th no matter where you live (dateless, social life is not to your satisfaction, etc), yet your relocated chart wouldn't indicate that. So now I'm a little muddled. How old were you when you moved away from Thailand? If you were like 15 years old, that may be why you never had a date--too young? Or were you older? And do you feel like your social life is at least a little different in New York? Do you get dates in New York? Or friendships easier to sustain? I'm trying to make more sense of the natal versus relocated chart to see if there really is significance in the relocated chart. I'm also a bit confused as to why jobs weren't easier in Thailand (jupiter in the 6th) of course that could just indicate a willingness to work, good health/hygiene, etc.

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posted January 13, 2016 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MinceyMouse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've lived in a number of places.

The times I've had relationships were in the UK. I've had people express interest in me Upstate but I'm picky now and waiting for someone who is right for me. I'm in contact with a couple of guys now. Oh, and I do have more friends here.

Jobs in general, in my area, are hard to get... regardless of country. I am willing to work and a hard worker, nonetheless. The profession is notorious for making one feel incompetent and unappreciated- and I've just accepted that because practising and problem solving is something I greatly enjoy.

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posted January 13, 2016 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for candycrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jakarta may be the same time zone, but it puts your Saturn in the 10th house, malog careers slow to take off and hard to find your place. Your venus remains in the 12 (secret love, unrequited love, etc). Jupiter is in the 6th. Chiron in the 4th indicates trouble at home in some way. (You said you and your mom don't get along well.) where in England did you live? (You can delete right after but I'm curious what it says about relationships). Considering Jakarta doesn't indicate difficulty in friendships. Strange. I'm starting to doubt relocation charts :/

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posted January 13, 2016 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MinceyMouse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 13, 2016 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for candycrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol you're chart confuses me. Maybe there's no truth to relocated charts then. Jakarta doesn't indicate difficulty with friendships. Yet you had difficulties (like your birth chart indicates). In London you have jupiter in the 10th (great luck with career, respect, getting hired). You have saturn in the 2nd so perhaps money was tight. Pluto in the 11th indicating intense and raw friendships. I dont know lol. 8th house chiron indicates difficulties with sex or opening up sexually, or difficulty with any 8th house matter. But I assume if career and romance was great in UK you wouldn't have moved to New York. So my guess is the natal chart fits you best...kinda indicating that the relocated chart is a joke (not yours specifically, I mean in general) :/

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posted January 13, 2016 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MinceyMouse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're not wrong. I wouldn't have moved if I had the opp in London...

Would you like a reading?

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posted January 13, 2016 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for candycrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well that's the thing, jupiter in the 10 (in London) pretty much indicates job opportunities and satisfaction. So that's kinda why I'm doubting relocation charts. Actually your moon in the 12th in Jakarta may be why friendships were hard. Maybe you emotionally closed off and and were skeptical of people, and that pushed them away, leaving you feeling a little betrayed and lonely. That's how I've read it described. But still, jupiter in the 10th in London and you had a tough time getting hired and being happy at the workplace? Ugh. Booooo. My natal is terrible lol, no escape

Yes, please and thank you! Do you see me moving to a different state within the next 3-5 years? If so, what will the move be for?

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posted January 13, 2016 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MinceyMouse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do I see you moving in the next 3-5 years?
Queen of wands, queen of cups, the high priestess. All rx.
All the cards also say that this is a premature question as all the cards indicate 'something hidden'. Intuitively, I also think this is too far in the future, but I do think you will be moving before the 3-5 years, tbh.

If yes, what will the move be for?
Love is the first thing on my mind when you asked this question. At first I thought it was work, but the set of card make sense if you wanted to be closer to your lover. THey indicate women and love with the queen of cups.

Any more questions?

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posted January 13, 2016 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for candycrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm, I've lived where I currently live my entire life and don't know anyone anywhere else, and I'm straight so the move being connected to women would be far fetched, I think. I had others but they're basically an offshoot of this one lol, but thank you thank you!!

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posted January 13, 2016 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MinceyMouse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome

Let me know if you have any other qs

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