posted January 24, 2016 11:31 AM            

DONT read that question for me I just had this weird dream. But would like to hear your views/experiences with questions like these.

posted January 24, 2016 12:11 PM            

Yea I had this dream.

It was a call for a reading my first call ever.
I was with someone whom seemed to be my mentor she was warning me in my dream "F remember to always ask permission when you read for someone, try not to peak into their lives so much, you can't help everyone or you'll wind up hurting yourself"

It was my first call, and a lady came on the line she was nervous, I could tell by her shaky vice but she was also afraid - she asked me "do you see demonic entity around me?" I asked her Do I have permission to read for you? she said yes, so I pulled, for ever card I pulled I saw her, how she looked, her children her husband. I saw everyone and what they were doing at that moment in time of the call.

I still remember the cards. I told her no demonic entity there can't be you got the angel cards - temperance/judgement. But the physical view I had of her and her family was another story I could see these demons dancing around their bodies of all of them and they looked at me grinning so smugly - I made eye contact several times. could see this woman slouching on the receiver with her forehead resting on her palm trembling. It was like I took a walk through her house as I pulled those cards, I remember her 4 kids her husband.

I told her no, going by my card spread, but I knew I was wrong because what I SAW in the physical around her was another story - this family was so lost.

Ace of Pents - King of Pents - (can't remember this card, all I know is that it was a pentacle card, pentacles have pentagrams right?) - temperance - Judgement

I would appreciate it of any of you can help me interpret this spread in a general way. The spread was glowing and the card design is none I have seen these cards were shiny had some glitter on them.

This isn't the first time I dream of demons the last time was when my sister was almost kidnapped from a Walmart at 3pm! It was the taxi driver.

posted January 24, 2016 12:20 PM            

I am not quoting this time and I am replying to Julz also..

Julz, I dont know to help with the cards but, what I would say what you picked up on ( dreams can be double as powerful than real life in my opinion, we are more open )
To me it seems like you astral travelled and connected to that person in another realm. I feel you gave them guiadance by them thinking about you. Sometimes psychics come in our dreams to make us pay attention to the message. I would say the person in your dream had the same dream, well similar.
I had dreams where psychics gave me readings and I took it as good insight/advice.
I do feel you are being more open and developing so you are getting messages that may teach you to develop, as remembering what you were thought to ask for permition to look into energy.

posted January 24, 2016 12:42 PM            

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Originally posted by FairyDust75:
IF again I didn't judge you no clue what you are talking about. You jumped on me when you were clearly out of line. Not going to continue to debate this in Julz thread. It's immature. But it's not all about you. People are entitled to state their opinion and not have to agree with you.

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posted January 24, 2016 02:07 PM            

Once you open these channels, and connect with the astral, you will see there are no dark forces there. Everything there is paradise, as it was described in many cultures. Pure light and absolute form. You can achieve this through meditation only, for instance. We are in darkness now and the only way is up; it is something you soon discover when you work with the astral.
It is people's understandable fear and various religions and concepts which, either intentional or not, intend to keep people in the dark, that make up these, sorry to say, false ideas. But an individual path of yours beyond these concepts, of good and evil forces, will show you something else.

About spells, no, they don't exist. What is a spell? The idea you can create a different reality by a ritual. That you can impose on reality, by an instant magic act or gesture; make someone love you, win the lottery, become beautiful, healthy etc. The universe we live in doesn't work like this. No one can impose on another, reality is a result of a web, myriad of actions/consequences that cannot be untangled with a ritual. The only way to alter reality is by persistent work on a matter, personal change and time, lots of time and work.
No, you can't make someone love you with a spell, or gain money, or anything else.

posted January 24, 2016 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by intuitivefish:
My opinion is that the "deamons" is huge fears anxieties stress burden ... all negative inside you manifesting into such demons. Its letting them take control of your contious.

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posted January 24, 2016 02:31 PM            

@IntuitiveFish, you think so, I would've never thought to view it that way. Its kind of scary, I'm just waiting for something bad to happen, because the last time I dreamt about demons something bad did happened. I've also shared dreams with someone before and would see them the next day and be like hey I had a dream with you, they would say me too! turns out we had the same dream. Its happened with multiple people, I wonder if its me pulling them into mine or them.

@ILP, interesting, I've never tried speaking to spirits through cards. Might try it.
Yea these dreams suck.

@Leeloo,
Thank you, Leeloo, Temperance and Judgement are two of my favorite cards. I went through a weird phase around 17-19 researched demons way too much I grew out of it eventually, read through the supposedly satanic bible, read different books on spirituality, necromancy, witchcraft - Santeria and the like (confession time) practices like these are huge in South America...at that time I wasn't afraid, I was curious, young and stupid. I listened/read stories of peoples experiences how these things can disrupt peoples lives. But almost always practitioners & people who seek out these services of these things had Karma overturn on them badly it depends though if its used for bad or good. So I do believe in stuff like that. Maybe these dream have a connection from that research period. I do play with a spirit board from time to time...its been a while though.

I also think that their is a spiritual realm and in this realm there are things we aren't meant to contact or interact with and its best that we don't. And I agree I also think that we all posses a demonic state a very dark part of ourselves our energy/soul, however, its much more prominent in some than others, and some do remain in that demonic state for the entire period of their lives. I think its all a matter of how we control those demons though - think murderers, rapist, everything Devil card related etc etc.

As far as only good things being in the astral realm, what if you just haven't encountered such bad entities? Maybe you have better control of whom you decide to come into contact with because you are stronger spiritually - whereas myself not strong at all can be prone to encounter some not so good things, you know.
I so agree on "demonic face of the world, people." I just steer away from people like this.

I'm probably mixing up astral realm (dreams) is way different from spiritual real (spirits - ghosts) correct?

@Poochy, thats so scary! maybe you should do like a cleansing for your hubbie :-/

posted January 24, 2016 02:55 PM            

thats's really interesting. are you able to describe to others what the astral planes look like. ive always read its light and brightness. even when i meditate i try to imagine what that would be like. often times it's rooted in images that ive already seen. very rarely have i been able to feel something more than what my mind conjures up from memory.

@julz

posted January 24, 2016 03:34 PM            

First of all, the astral is here, it's a parallel reality. It doesn't have headquarters, it's not in the sky, or on another planet. It's about seeing the true nature of things, and their originary/ultimate form. To give a concrete example, you can look at a tree, it's a marvelous millions of years creation of a natural mechanism and more, as biology. When you see it in the astral, you see its essence, spirit. Its physical manifestation is a continuous arduous attempt of millions of years to create that spirit with matter, in tangible form. It's an effort of embodiment.
How it looks? Everything is light, color, transparency, eternal form, beauty and bliss. Ether. You are able to see the very spirit of life, the prana, the ch'i. A little like people imagine angelic forms. To be perfectly honest, it looks very much like the night/luminescent creatures/plants/landscape in Avatar This is a perfect visual analogy. It's not around the tree, it's another tree, of light and colors, luminescent.
It's just paradise, I don't know how else to put it.

I can teach you a little how to see, at least the beginning of it.
You need to find time for daily meditation, even half an hour, in an environment with no sound disturbance. You can hear birds, or nature, but no people's voices or noises. You need to sit, in a comfortable position, a variation of the lotus or something similar, with your back comfortably leaning on something. The floor is the best place, with a pillow on it. Not in bed, horizontal position, for it may make you sleep or experience a sudden OOBE which will scare you first.
Then start by focusing your view on something purple in front of you - not a candle - candles are disturbing for the eyes if you look into them for too long - ( a piece of paper painted in purple/violet for instance; this is the color signaling and opening clairvoyance, of Ajna). Then you close your eyes and you focus with your inner vision in that little depression in your forehead, between the eyebrows, you look for it with your hand first. It's a little bit above the eyebrows, in fact. Without straining the eyes, you look there with the mind, not crossing eyes. You will of course see yellow first, after looking at the violet paper; but you do this for a while, alternate the external violet with the focus through this eye. Then after a while you ditch the violet piece and try without it.
When you close your eyes, you can let yourself go at first, or use a question, a channel. Such as wanting to see something or understand something. Make it something nice or peaceful/casual first. After a while, with perseverance, you will begin to see the astral, at least some flashes first in this meditation and then, as a next stage, randomly.

posted January 24, 2016 04:06 PM            

@Julz87: I am tired of the dark side as I have seen enough of it. You are a good reader and you could have a lot of clients.

posted January 24, 2016 04:27 PM            

Thanks! I'll definitely incorporate it into my daily meditation. I've been trying to recite the vishnu sahasranama regularly. So this should fit right in afterwards. I get into a rut at times and then it becomes monotonous until I lose my motivation to continue. Anything to shake it up a bit is always nice.

It's also really great to hear that you've been able to experience it so well. Do keep us updated when you finally "return."

@ geminikarat

posted January 25, 2016 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Julz87:
Really, that weird huh?

Yea I had this dream.

It was a call for a reading my first call ever.
I was with someone whom seemed to be my mentor she was warning me in my dream "F remember to always ask permission when you read for someone, try not to peak into their lives so much, you can't help everyone or you'll wind up hurting yourself"

****I believe this dream shows your subconscious feelings of guilt and possibly fear. Your "mentor" has a warning for you... this mentor can represent people like your family or your loved ones...warning you about the dangers of readings

*****I think this dream has to do with your "guilty feelings" that you have come across because of opening yourself up to the supernatural world...(readings,tarot, etc). I feel like you subconsciously feel that you are "spying" on people or perhaps taking advantage of them...which if you think about it makes a lot of sense because when someone gets a reading they are in a vulnerable state putting us readers to have some sort of power over them...it's like if we are not careful we can influence their thoughts and dreams. It's actually quite scary

It was my first call, and a lady came on the line she was nervous, I could tell by her shaky vice but she was also afraid - she asked me "do you see demonic entity around me?" I asked her Do I have permission to read for you? she said yes, so I pulled, for ever card I pulled I saw her, how she looked, her children her husband. I saw everyone and what they were doing at that moment in time of the call.

I still remember the cards. I told her no demonic entity there can't be you got the angel cards - temperance/judgement. But the physical view I had of her and her family was another story I could see these demons dancing around their bodies of all of them and they looked at me grinning so smugly - I made eye contact several times. could see this woman slouching on the receiver with her forehead resting on her palm trembling. It was like I took a walk through her house as I pulled those cards, I remember her 4 kids her husband.

I told her no, going by my card spread, but I knew I was wrong because what I SAW in the physical around her was another story - this family was so lost.

* I think this part has to do with the struggle you have between your intuition and the cards, I think the message here is to make more use of your intuition because it is strong, stronger than the cards. Again I think the demons that you saw represents your subconcious feelings of guilt, I too have experienced this, the feelings of guilt and shame because of my interest in the occult. My family does not approve and they think I am crazy. They think it is the work of the "devil". Could it be possible that you are feeling this way? This being represented as demons while reading for someone who put their absolute faith in you. Again this person being a part of a family, who is being afflicted by the demons you see(your guilt and fear)

Ace of Pents - King of Pents - (can't remember this card, all I know is that it was a pentacle card, pentacles have pentagrams right?) - temperance - Judgement

I would appreciate it of any of you can help me interpret this spread in a general way. The spread was glowing and the card design is none I have seen these cards were shiny had some glitter on them.

This isn't the first time I dream of demons the last time was when my sister was almost kidnapped from a Walmart at 3pm! It was the taxi driver.

Have any of you had experiences like these?

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