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lilypad18
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posted February 17, 2016 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone, how do exchanges exactly work here?

I don't have any tarot knowledge to share, but I do have astrology ones. Can I exchange some astrology reading for a tarot question?

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mattva
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posted February 17, 2016 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mattva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey lilypad

Fair disclosure: I'm not nearly as experienced as many of the readers here, but I do have a deck. And I'd be happy to pull for you.

What is your question? I'll post my chart if the reading resonates

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lilypad18
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posted February 17, 2016 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi mattva! Don't worry, we will give it a try! And feel free to post your chart, even if the question doesn't resonate with the interpretation, just make sure to give me some feedback from your chart. We never stop learning hahahaha

My question is, what are my ex's feelings for me

I would be thankful if you could say what cards you got, so I can learn about them too. I don't have any deck so it's a lil difficult to learn tarot for me hahahaahah

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mattva
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posted February 17, 2016 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mattva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did a single card reading for you. I asked what kind of feelings are lilypads ex dealing with about her?

Two of Swords

It's interesting that this card showed up. It represents that there are two situations/emotions/decisions present. But the problem is that the person in question is debating between the two choices and they are not able to make a clear one. There might not be any strong emotions left in your ex that allows him to pursue you anymore. I do my best not to absorb any negative ones, but this suggests that the bond between you two is weak. But it is also possible he is conflicted and doesn't want to deal with a difficult decision regarding you. It could be love and indifference. It could be something else. But what's also suggested is that you shouldn't ignore the choices that are in front of you because of this. If you remain blinded by emotion, you might also stalemate as the lady in the two of swords.

Hope that helps! (a bit of a sad reading i know...)

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mattva
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posted February 17, 2016 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mattva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here is my natal with transits --> http://i.imgur.com/h0150nF.png

General stuff
- Venus and mercury are in my solar 1st house and the natal 4th and almost conjuncting the sun.
- They will reach my 5th house by the end of the month.
- I also have a chiron conjuncting my venus in 6th house. Something about healing old hurts?
- And finally Uranus approaching my DC in aries.

This is what I do know so far. I'm wondering if there are any indications for upcoming stuff in my life. I have a standard routine with work and school, so I really haven't met a lot of people with romantic potential. Thanks lilypad!

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lilypad18
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posted February 17, 2016 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry mattva for taking so long to reply, Im just a little bit busy!

Okay so, in regards to the Tarot question, could it be that he is blocking what he feels about me? I mean, he is afraid of coming to terms what he really feels. Maybe he tries to rationalize what he feels about me. Perhaps he doesnt want to admit he didnt actually do the right thing leaving my ass? Or doesnt want to admit he misses me, or smthing like that? Does that make any sense in your interpretation?


Okay, in regards to your chart and transits, give me a few minutes cause there are a lot of things!!!

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mattva
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posted February 17, 2016 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mattva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since there are two decisions, it definitely could be either one that you said

But EVEN if we assume 1. he misses you 2. he doesnt , the ultimate decision he has taken is indecision. He doesn't want to know and hes closed off himself from deciding. If I HAD to choose, it's feeling bad about leaving VS. not feeling bad about leaving.

Pulled another card: 6 of cups.

This has to do with memories of the past related to love. His emotions for you have not gone away. They're still there. He's just blocked himself.

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lilypad18
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posted February 17, 2016 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natal Chart
It's funny how to talk about the standard routine, because Venus and Mars are both in your 6th house. You may really enjoy having a routine, and you use all your energy to have it.


You are a reaaaaally intense person, since Pluto is in your 1st house + in scorpio. This makes you a really magnetic person. People may like you or dislike you, but you are never indifferent to them. This may make you a really controlling person, a little manipulative. Big ego, you want everything your way and you won't think about it twice when you want to accomplish something, you will make everything you need to to get what you want.
But before all of this, you come off as a really likeable person, cooperative, and all traits associated with Libra. You will put importance to your appearance and, among other things, your fashion sense is really good.
Coming back to Pluto, all of these traits are really strong because you have Sun square Pluto too, so this just adds more intensity to your personality.

Saturn and Uranus in your 2nd house adds a lot of limitations, restrictions, boundaries to your personal possessions, as well as a lot of unpredictability. It also means when it comes to your personal possessions and money, you are REALLY concerned with it, you organize it really well, you always take care of it, and every moment you have to know whats going on with it. With these 2 planets here, you could make money in original ways (uranus) and you have to make sure you always make money in a honest way, you gotta be an integrate person to make it, because if not, you will have troubles.
Since 2nd house are also your self-esteem, you can find a little trouble having a good self-esteem. You can find yourself as not being enough, not being good, and all these things, plus, one day you feel you can achieve it all, one day you feel you can't achieve nothing. [Tell me if this makes sense!]

3rd house. Neptune and mercury. Neptune, even if it is the planets of confussion, idealizing, glamour, etc., I dont think it will cause you much trouble since it doesnt aspect your personal planets, except Pluto (which we give importance to because its a 1st house planet), but it is a sextile, it just could make you a lil bit more compassionate and help you treat with your Pluto in a neptunian way. Also, we dont give it much importance because it is cadent, and in capricorn. Capricorn isnt a bad sign for Neptune, its just that it is an earth sign so your Neptune is much more grounded than a Pisces Neptune, for example.

Mercury in your 3rd house. It can make you a really talkative person. Mercury feels good here, it is its own house. In Capricorn, it will make you a really direct person. You say things as they are. You dont go around to tell something. And with the Venus sextile, you are direct and say things as they are, but always with a touch of tact, diplomacy, you make it a lil beautiful for the other person.

Jupiter and Sun in 4th house. Jupiter here gives a really good childhood. You may have been your familys favourite, smothered by them...
With the sun there, you identify with your roots, you identify with your family. Your ego is in your home. You may be a really humanitarian person in your house.

Moon 5th house in Aqua. Aqua moon makes you really detached when it comes to emotions.
in 5th house, the moon gives you an emotional need to be creative, to express yourself, and gives you also artistic creativity. You probably like being with kids and are really good with them, because you pour all your emotions when you interact with them. This can also mean you are a little drama queen when it comes to expression and may create unhealthy relationships with kids, but dont really think so in your case since Moon is in Aqua and knows when to stop being overlyemotional, and when to start being more objective. You also pour all your emotions in your romantic relationships.


Venus and mars in 6th house, as I said before, makes you enjoy a routine and give all your energy into it. Venus in Pisces feels really good here. It may make you fantasize a lot in your routine [tell me if this makes sense]
Venus in Pisces by itself makes you a really good person, compassionate with those you love and always eager to help those you know or even dont know. Anyone!
Mars in Pisces makes you get all your energy from being compassionate, maybe from not overly-worrying too much about things?


I hope you dont mind if I continue with this tomorrow because I am really exhausted at the moment


Thanks for your replying, but I dont understand this: "If I HAD to choose, it's feeling bad about leaving VS. not feeling bad about leaving."

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mattva
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posted February 18, 2016 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mattva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks lilypad for that extensive reading.

as feedback. its amazing how you did that.

i even ended up showing it to my parents who also agreed wholeheartedly

heres feedback for the specific parts you had inquired about
2nd house self esteem : absolutely true. im on top of the moon on some days and then i feel completely defeated. some days i think im very competent. and it changes 180 degrees another time. the interesting thing is that i dont understand why.

venus and mars in the 6th. i love a routine. but its also mostly fantasy. i like people who have a routine and i thrive in organization. left on my own, i put things in its natural order very easily.

the fashion sense thing is also true. i invest a lot in my clothes.

mars in pisces has actually worked to my disadvantage. esp with my pluto first house. i feel everything very strong. when i worry, i WORRY. when i want to help, i go out of my way. and often end up being taken advantage of.

anyway, thank you so much. the basics you wrote are simply amazing. let me know if i can help out more.

you did ask about the feeling bad about leaving vs not leaving. by this i meant that the cards suggested there is still love between you two. but his departure from your life was for other reasons. as a result, as of yesterday, his thoughts are along the lines of ... "I feel bad about leaving, but I shouldn't. At the same time I can't decide what to do about it." Is he strong but indecisive?

I asked about what happened with him and I got

Knight of Pentacles
- This is a knight with a strong influence. It could be you or him to be very fair. But it signifies an emotional response where everything was given, and in the process they feel lost.

2 of swords (again)
- indecision is the present state. Even if they come back, the indecisive moods will run as an undercurrent in your relationship

6 of cups
- The past should be accepted and there is beauty coming into your life sooner than you think. It will be from the established relationships in your life.

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lilypad18
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posted February 18, 2016 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi mattva! I'm glad you are happy with this reading! Give me a few hours and I'll do a little more, cause there are a couple of things more I want to tell you plus the transits

Thanks for you clarifications!

I wouldn't exactly say 'strong'. More like, when he takes a decision he sticks with it, in a rigid way we could say, so maybe his feelings are now telling him something but he probs doesn't want to admit he was a lil wrong

So, are you telling me he still loved me when he left me?

Did you ask the cards what happened with him when he left me? Or in the present

If it is the present you are talking about, I don't really get your knight of pentacles explanation
If it is the past you are talking about, when he left me or even after some time he did (but still past), maybe this card describes me. He left me 2 years ago. 1 year ago I contacted him because we didn't finished well (he left suddenly, without a clear explanation, and he broke up via sms), so there were a lot of things to talk. But we talked via sms again, we didn't hang out. And even if we talked a little, I still feel, even today, we didn't say everything that we had to say or was on our minds. He then, after talking a lil abt our break up, immediately told me he wanted to remain friends with me (he had and still has a gf), and I thanked about it a lil and said okay, but after a day I couldn't stand looking at his whatsapp's profile picture with his girlfriend, it really hurt me a lot because I wasn't over him. So the next day I wrote him a long ass message telling him that I still missed him a lot and couldn't be friends with him, plus he had a girlfriend and I didn't want to be in his life like that. He then replied with a simple "Okay bye!!!!!" And we never talked again.


Does all of this makes sense with what the cards told you?

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lilypad18
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posted February 18, 2016 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, just one more thing, what do you mean exactly with "beauty" coming into my life sooner than I think? Through my already established relationships? Could it mean through a friend I recently made?

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mattva
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posted February 18, 2016 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mattva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
6 of cups deals with memories of the past. from the card i received, i felt that the emotions in your relationship has not changed. And by beauty I meant that even though this might not be an easy time, friends that you have made and family that you have or even new friends that are to come will bring happiness. The twist is that ... the happiness will somehow remind you of the happiness in your past. This will be the same for him btw. In fact, there is hope that he might even come back to you. However, the overall reading of ALL the cards I have slowly pulled for you means that the romantic future between you two is weakening. Even if it is hard to hear, the truth is that indecision usually signifies a prelude to an ending.

Also there is this lady on youtube.. Alexandra Tarot (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnrDTl2XF8GEtU8avjpgunA)

She's good. She gives overall short term energy readings for a month depending on your astrological sign. She seems VERY sensitive but also highly intuitive. Could be worth a shot, if you are still feeling confused or even lost.

My advice to you is that based on the emotions in the cards for your ex, you will be able to regain any power lost. It is dangerous to stand in front of the 2 of swords because indecision is their suit. That means we can get side tracked. I have faced this issue myself and this is the lesson I took from it.

The 6 of cups signifies a positive outcome for you even if it is not a romantic one with this particular ex.

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lilypad18
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posted February 18, 2016 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aww.. I was hoping I could find some new love...

anyways, thanks a lot for your helping mattva. I just wanted to know his feelings for me so I can finally close this once for all, even if he would come back I would have no interest in him. From my part, I know exactly it is all over

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posted February 18, 2016 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mattva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lilypad18:
aww.. I was hoping I could find some new love...

anyways, thanks a lot for your helping mattva. I just wanted to know his feelings for me so I can finally close this once for all, even if he would come back I would have no interest in him. From my part, I know exactly it is all over


I'm sure it will work out for the best lilypad. New love will come once this current energy fades. EVEN if there is no indication that something is going to JUMP out at the moment. Still... I really think my cards only provide a short term energy read. I think it will change after March.

(PS: No rush at all. But I am super interested in how you will approach the transits in my chart. So anytime... feel free.)

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lilypad18
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posted February 18, 2016 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, in March I have a hard transit ending finally
And a few days ago some Knowflake had a tarot reading and said I would find someone in April/may, so let's hope for the best...... Hahahaah

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posted February 18, 2016 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey mattva, in a few minutes I'll post your reading!

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cherful24
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posted February 18, 2016 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, are u still exchanging..

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posted February 18, 2016 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay so, in regards to your natal chart, you have your Chiron in 8th house. I found this on the internet which is really well explained and detailed:

quote:
This shows your deepest wound residing in resource, death, and sex. There are many different ways this placement can express itself. Materially, it can manifest through dependence on others or others depending on you too much. Physically, it can manifest through difficulties in feeling fulfilled sexually, yet being able to fulfill partners easily. Emotionally, it can manifest in great sorrow regarding death. Possibly having deaths in your early childhood or having those close to you die. You may be able to console those who are feeling sorrow, but are unable to console yourself. Whichever these are, the important thing to remember is to respect yourself, accept the cycles of life, and let go. You can heal each of these wounds by being honest and upfront. You must learn to share your emotions in order to transcend them. You know transformation lurks behind disaster better than anyone. Clear the soot. Embrace the change.

Page: https://vestalyn.wordpress.com/2014/03/07/chiron-in-the-houses/

Does this make any sense to you? 8th house is the house of death and rebirth, as well as intimacy, sex, shared resources, what you share with a partner.... It is not that you will find problems here, which you will, it is more about the pain that comes with all of this, with real hurt. Probably difficulties when you have to communicate what you want in sex; probably pain associated with talking about taboos, about your dark side, about sex, and maybe also pain in sharing deathful/painful/transformating experiences you had or have

Finally, your transits

I see you have Jupiter about to enter your 12th house. This means, whatever trouble you get caught up in, some divine intervention will help you get out of it without you getting dirty. Or maybe it will help you not get in a real bad trouble. When I had this transit I was 15 years old or so, and in the situation I was back then, now that I think of it, could've turn REALLY bad if everything I wished then really happened. So this transit, even if subtle and unnoticeable, will benefit you.

Neptune transiting 5th house. Maybe you've had some disillusionments in your romantic relationships, or in your creative endeavors. But it could also mean you've been fantasizing about it a lot. Maybe when it comes to love, nothing has been clearly lately. You will still feel this for some years.

Uranus has been transiting your 6th house, which I bet has been messing with your so loved routine. Now you have an organized routine, now you don't, now you know what you are gonna do, now you can't do it because you have something else more important that needs your attention. And this is more true with Uranus in Aries. Everything really impulsive. Uranus here probably has taught you to be more flexible, independent, when it comes to all these 6th house related matters. And now that it is entering your 7th house, it will mean the same but in the relationship realm. You could find yourself being much more independent in a relationship, feeling you need more freedom, maybe you want to be single now, maybe you want a stable relationship in 2 mins. Or, you may meet someone like this, somebody who brings all this energies in your life so you can learn about it. This transit lasts a lot, but when Uranus will enter Taurus this energies will be the me in your relationships, but more grounded, more earthy-like. Maybe you meet someone who doesn't want to commit, or isn't ready. This also brings a lot of excitement and innovation into your relationship. Remember that 7th house isn't just about partners, but also close relationship, for example a best friend.

Pluto through your 3rd house. All the time this transit has been on, you may have had a lot of power in your words, influencing people more with your words. Also, this transit maybe has transformed the way you think, and this intensifies a lot now because Pluto is conjuncting your Mercury. All transformations, rebirths, dark side, occurs in your mental skills, the way you think, how you use your words..... If you have sibling, probs fights with them, or even with neighbors

Pluto is gonna enter your 4th house, so big changes will start in your home.

Are you older than 30 years? I see you've already had your Saturn return (Sat transit natal sat). You may have been having a crisis ("I feel old", "I'm thirty and I've done nothing good w/ my life" etc). You've let this mostly in your self esteem and money and personal possessions. Soon Saturn will enter your third house. As we said before, Pluto through third house has transformed everything about your communications, so we can say Saturn comes now to add restrictions p, limits and boundaries to your new style of communications and thinking, so that you can use it better.

Okay and the last thing, Chiron conjuncting your Venus. This has probably cause a lot of pain in regards to your love life lately, plus it has been transiting your 5th house. A lot of pain involving romantic relationships, love, affairs..... You've probably been searching for someone to heal, for someone to heal your, or have pphad contact with someone who hurt you a lot, maybe mistreated you? Didn't gave you the love you deserve, didn't see you as a good choice in love (don't know if this makes sense). Now Chiron is gonna enter your 6th house, so paying involving 6th house matters.


I hope I did a good job and sorry for not writing a lot more about your transits, I'm still learning abt them!

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posted February 18, 2016 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cherful24:
Hi, are u still exchanging..

Hi cherful, yes I'm still exchanging. What would you like abt astrology?

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posted February 18, 2016 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anything about upcoming romance...or marriage even 😊

September 5th 1978 at 8:36 p.m. in Winfield Illinois.let me know if u need anything else.

What's your question


UOTE]Originally posted by lilypad18:
Hi cherful, yes I'm still exchanging. What would you like abt astrology?[/QUOTE]

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posted February 18, 2016 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mattva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you did an excellent job lilypad.

im really overwhelmed at the effort you put in and i hope you know that is immensely appreciated. im still processing all of this but there's so much stuff that I never knew.

the good thing is that it lets me digest it slowly and learn about it. perhaps even apply it towards the future. great stuff all around.

many thanks

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posted February 18, 2016 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mattva, Im really happy I did a good job for you

in my experience with astrology, it's just what you said. when you read about it, it feels like a punch in your stomach. but deep down you know it is true, and when you accept it as it is, you learn a loooot from it. and it can even make your life more easy because you know with words whats going on and you can help yourself be closer to what your real path in life is

if all of this didnt hurt, it wouldnt be real, just a fantasy!

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posted February 18, 2016 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cherful24:
Anything about upcoming romance...or marriage even 😊

September 5th 1978 at 8:36 p.m. in Winfield Illinois.let me know if u need anything else.

What's your question


UOTE]Originally posted by lilypad18:
[b] Hi cherful, yes I'm still exchanging. What would you like abt astrology?



Cherful, my question is:

Why has been my love life been so bad lately? It hurts me a lot to know I've been single for so long, and I feel I'm not good enough for someone to love me if I haven't found a bf yet

Thanks! Will be right back with your transits

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posted February 18, 2016 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I'm feeling the same way!

Just to bbe clear, I'm clairvoyant...hope it's okay. Getting to ur reading now


quote:
Originally posted by lilypad18:

Cherful, my question is:

Why has been my love life been so bad lately? It hurts me a lot to know I've been single for so long, and I feel I'm not good enough for someone to love me if I haven't found a bf yet

Thanks! Will be right back with your transits


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posted February 18, 2016 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could it be that absentee love was there as a child? It doesn't seem that, at least one of ur parents, was motivated to be a loving parent, but instead...just present. Love wasn't shown to u. Having love for ur kids and showing them love is two different things.

Second...ur accepting non-compatible guys. I don't see the excitement or passion for life in u. Ur just living...but I don't see u loving anything

So I'd say dwell into love...that's the key to have this situation change.

That's what's missing in ur life and that's what ur lacking, and I feel men pick up on that. Their fear of stagnation is what keeps them from u.

So really YOU'RE LUCKY!!
Its not that they don't find you attractive or pleasant or whatever. Perhaps just a bit boring. All u have to do is get some excitement in your life and fall in love with something and your energy and your vibe will be so much more beautiful and happy people will be drawn to you. But that's how I see men view you.

Let me know if this resonates!

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