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hearttreasure
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posted March 31, 2016 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone read this chart?

He always changes his job, if someone asks why he leaves his job he always has someone/the company to blame. Less than a year he would have another job, quickly obsess with his new job but also quickly to leave the job. What indicate this in his chart? Moon or Uranus in 6th house? I don't know his birthtime, I assume his asc in Gem because I thought his moon or uranus in 6th house.

Also everytime he has new job, he is more interesting with the error of the company, the error of the employees, the error of the owner/bosses (GM, Manager, etc) but also ambitious enough to defeat his boss/competent employees with his foxy way.

I was his co-worker, he definitely tried to beat me at work so he could climb to higher position. He did it but also karma followed, he left the job with various excuses blaming the company, the bosses, and even he pointed out me until later I found out it was also because of his girlfriend at that time who asked him to get resign because I was there (well, he cheated on me and her). The main reason remained unknown.

In some cases he left the job when he got bigger responsibility, which I don't know why since he really wants a higher position. He is nagging when he gets job, and also nagging when he has no job. It is frustrating. He acts like he works in his company (he always uses his alias - his own company name) which is actually just an alias. He tries to sell but none gets done, he changes again with so many excuses while I observe he doesn't do anything just talk and talk, he thinks he knows-all.

But, really, he is so negative, why is this?

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Randall
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posted April 01, 2016 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Colourful_Cosmos
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posted April 01, 2016 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Colourful_Cosmos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Midheaven (as 10th Cusp) is in 0* Aries, so we look to the position of his Mars. The zero degree is also indicative of a soul initiating a new approach to living. In this case, he believes he is entitled to be free of burdenous labor; can be his-own-boss if he could; etc.

Since Jupiter is in his 10th house, we presume he would be great at any career endeavor. But observing the square to his Mars conjunct Mercury. As well as regarding the house Jupiter rules: We see that in the 6th house, there’s Uranus and Saturn retrograde. Retrograde planets suggest fulfillment of his best potential may occur later in life, after enduring some hardships or difficulties.

His Moon Sagittarius, in a loose opposition to Venus. How he /feels/ is supposedly disregarded by others (4th and 11th House ruled by Venus, representing his family and friends). It’s just he’s “so negative,” because he is aware that others will object to his feelings.

His mind, represented by Mercury, is in afflicting aspects with the rulers of his 9th house (Uranus, representing unconventional beliefs) and 6th house (Jupiter, representing “daily” matters, such as jobs or co-workers). Mars being exact conjunct Mercury, provides him the means to assert what he thinks.

He is not “negative” in the sense we must judge him. He is just not satisfied with careers or jobs he’s had. Jupiter in the 10th may indicate a need for higher values. With his direct Jupiter TRINE retrograde Saturn, it is possible he will not be content with a career, until later in life.

Even if he does not have any repressed idealism. Being unwilling to take on immense responsibilities, is because he’s unhappy (Sun opposite Saturn) with modern life. Regardless as to what his philosophies or beliefs are: With Neptune opposite Mercury & Mars, he is often at a loss when it comes to his hopes and dreams.

Much of this can be subconscious, especially since Mercury trines Pluto. Transforming how he thinks will help him learn constructive criticism. It’s good that his Pluto is overall harmonious and in its own sign.

His fate (the Vertex) is to spiritually develop, and if he is not spiritual in any way, he needs to re-evaluate what he’s always believed in.

Pholus is exact quincunx his Uranus, so this is likely the focal point of his negativity. I’ve read Pholus can hold an exaggerant influence with any point or planet it aspects. So his views (Aquarian 9th) hold a rather detrimental influence with an afflicted Uranus in the 6th house.

With Chiron loosely conjunct Karma in the 12th house, he likely feels today’s society is too restrictive of self-expression (repressed Gemini qualities). Uranus opposite Karma can also indicate his sense of responsibilities being restrictive, is a karmic condition.

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mar1982delta
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posted April 01, 2016 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since we don't know his TOB for sure, I will make some comments on his aspects, but have in mind that I am still on the learning process! Plus any feedback is much appreciated!
The fact that he thinks that he knows it all and might speak/acts before he thinks is shown by the mercury-mars conjunction. The trine from pluto adds a subtle dimension for seeking of power through his way of expression and action.
The fact that Chiron conjuncts his Sun is very important imo, too. He might have a traumatized sense of self and this could lead him to act this way, as an attempt to verify his own ego. But perhaps not in a self-centered way. This might be in fact the source of his wound, which perhaps leads him to an eternal loop and continues wounding him. Maybe this acts out as a self-fulfilling prophecy of some sort.
Moreover, jupiter sextiles his chiron, enhancing his own wound in a way. Additionally, he has uranus and saturn opposing his sun and chiron and this could cause another controversy, too. Since uranus and saturn are incompatible in a way, although they rule together one sign (aquarius). These controversial characteristics are part of his identity (sun) and his wound (chiron), too. Saturn wants hard work, is ambitious, career-oriented, even materialistic, but Uranus is revolutionary, erratic and original. Saturn wants stability, while uranus wants instability/originality. Uranus could give him even a genious aura, but Saturn demands time, practicality, maturity, status.
The fact that his Moon receives only a wide aspect from his venus could lead us to consider it as an almost unaspected planet and unaspected planets have the tendency to act as raw energy in our chart. So, the moon, meaning his emotions express in exaggerative ways, because they have no guidance from other planets for the way they should express. This could lead to an aura of negativity, especially if we think that the Moon rules Cancer, a sign known for mood swings (no intention to offend cancers, I have cancer placements myself, lol). As a consequence, the raw energy of the moon expressed without restriction might translate to real negativity expressed without any apparent reason (at least to others). And since the same apply to venus, too, the combination of venus and moon receiving only one aspect could make him having a hard time connecting emotionally to others, thus appearing as self-centered, erratic, negative or even unstable (?).
Similar things are indicated by the saturn and uranus opp. his sun, as mentioned before.
I'll try to add something later if I come up with something new!
Hope I helped!

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hearttreasure
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posted April 03, 2016 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Colourful_Cosmos:
Midheaven (as 10th Cusp) is in 0* Aries, so we look to the position of his Mars. The zero degree is also indicative of a soul initiating a new approach to living. In this case, he believes he is entitled to be free of burdenous labor; can be his-own-boss if he could; etc.

Since Jupiter is in his 10th house, we presume he would be great at any career endeavor. But observing the square to his Mars conjunct Mercury. As well as regarding the house Jupiter rules: We see that in the 6th house, there’s Uranus and Saturn retrograde. Retrograde planets suggest fulfillment of his best potential may occur later in life, after enduring some hardships or difficulties.

His Moon Sagittarius, in a loose opposition to Venus. How he /feels/ is supposedly disregarded by others (4th and 11th House ruled by Venus, representing his family and friends). It’s just he’s “so negative,” because he is aware that others will object to his feelings.

His mind, represented by Mercury, is in afflicting aspects with the rulers of his 9th house (Uranus, representing unconventional beliefs) and 6th house (Jupiter, representing “daily” matters, such as jobs or co-workers). Mars being exact conjunct Mercury, provides him the means to assert what he thinks.

He is not “negative” in the sense we must judge him. He is just not satisfied with careers or jobs he’s had. Jupiter in the 10th may indicate a need for higher values. With his direct Jupiter TRINE retrograde Saturn, it is possible he will not be content with a career, until later in life.

Even if he does not have any repressed idealism. Being unwilling to take on immense responsibilities, is because he’s unhappy (Sun opposite Saturn) with modern life. Regardless as to what his philosophies or beliefs are: With Neptune opposite Mercury & Mars, he is often at a loss when it comes to his hopes and dreams.

Much of this can be subconscious, especially since Mercury trines Pluto. Transforming how he thinks will help him learn constructive criticism. It’s good that his Pluto is overall harmonious and in its own sign.

His fate (the Vertex) is to spiritually develop, and if he is not spiritual in any way, he needs to re-evaluate what he’s always believed in.

Pholus is exact quincunx his Uranus, so this is likely the focal point of his negativity. I’ve read Pholus can hold an exaggerant influence with any point or planet it aspects. So his views (Aquarian 9th) hold a rather detrimental influence with an afflicted Uranus in the 6th house.

With Chiron loosely conjunct Karma in the 12th house, he likely feels today’s society is too restrictive of self-expression (repressed Gemini qualities). Uranus opposite Karma can also indicate his sense of responsibilities being restrictive, is a karmic condition.


Can you describe more easier to understand about moon oppose venus about "he is aware that others will object to his feelings"? Because I found he always seek sympathy with co-workers/people he met and doesn't afraid to show/tell his feelings, although I see him with his family he kinda represses lots of emotions. He doesn't talk that much like he talks with friends/other people. His Mom/family kinda living in denial, refuse to dealing with problems/mistakes. He often gets rejected by his Mom/family, so yeah, he's kinda living in denial too, when problem arises he will run away, he refuses to deal with the problems. What planet should be in his 12th house if he was like that?

So, being unwilling to take on immense responsibilities is about sun opposite saturn? What about the houses where the sun/saturn place at? Because I found that is true but what can the houses tell?

About his vertex, I don't think he is spiritual because everytime I talk about spiritual matters, he argues with me like an opponent. He is like evil in this one. I don't know what is his problems with it.

What do you mean by "his views (Aquarian 9th) hold a rather detrimental influence with an afflicted Uranus in the 6th house"?

I found most of your reading is quite true. Thanks for your time!

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hearttreasure
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posted April 03, 2016 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Since we don't know his TOB for sure, I will make some comments on his aspects, but have in mind that I am still on the learning process! Plus any feedback is much appreciated!
The fact that he thinks that he knows it all and might speak/acts before he thinks is shown by the mercury-mars conjunction. The trine from pluto adds a subtle dimension for seeking of power through his way of expression and action.
The fact that Chiron conjuncts his Sun is very important imo, too. He might have a traumatized sense of self and this could lead him to act this way, as an attempt to verify his own ego. But perhaps not in a self-centered way. This might be in fact the source of his wound, which perhaps leads him to an eternal loop and continues wounding him. Maybe this acts out as a self-fulfilling prophecy of some sort.
Moreover, jupiter sextiles his chiron, enhancing his own wound in a way. Additionally, he has uranus and saturn opposing his sun and chiron and this could cause another controversy, too. Since uranus and saturn are incompatible in a way, although they rule together one sign (aquarius). These controversial characteristics are part of his identity (sun) and his wound (chiron), too. Saturn wants hard work, is ambitious, career-oriented, even materialistic, but Uranus is revolutionary, erratic and original. Saturn wants stability, while uranus wants instability/originality. Uranus could give him even a genious aura, but Saturn demands time, practicality, maturity, status.
The fact that his Moon receives only a wide aspect from his venus could lead us to consider it as an almost unaspected planet and unaspected planets have the tendency to act as raw energy in our chart. So, the moon, meaning his emotions express in exaggerative ways, because they have no guidance from other planets for the way they should express. This could lead to an aura of negativity, especially if we think that the Moon rules Cancer, a sign known for mood swings (no intention to offend cancers, I have cancer placements myself, lol). As a consequence, the raw energy of the moon expressed without restriction might translate to real negativity expressed without any apparent reason (at least to others). And since the same apply to venus, too, the combination of venus and moon receiving only one aspect could make him having a hard time connecting emotionally to others, thus appearing as self-centered, erratic, negative or even unstable (?).
Similar things are indicated by the saturn and uranus opp. his sun, as mentioned before.
I'll try to add something later if I come up with something new!
Hope I helped!

Thank you for your time! Much appreciated.

He may speak/acts before he thinks, but he really knows how to break down people with his words or he really knows what people want to hear. He is quiet secretive! So he tries to control most of his words. He always acts like happy-go-lucky person, no one knows that his wounds are, even when I try to dig some, he only tells some superficial things like it's not a matter to him.

Do you think it could be his mercury/mars in 12th house? Or mercury oppose neptune?

He is very secretive about his family and it seems like he has no sympathy to rich people although those people are kind to him. He is more sympathy (connect his feeling) to poor people although those people have no morals. I don't know if it is because of his family's condition. Can we see this in his chart? He doesn't show any traits that he has hard time to connect with his feelings, because he sure can make a poet! and literally cry to me in some hard occasions.

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