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beccathelion
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posted May 11, 2016 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
***Closed*** I'd like to do an exchange if possible, preferably with someone who is comfortable with reading. I can do a tarot or a leno (though I'm a bit better at tarot).

I've got a hunch the size of Texas that it's over (or I should say that unless a gesture is made that's the size of Texas, I'm declaring it over)... but I guess I'm just looking for guidance and/or clarity.

Help?


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posted May 11, 2016 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to exchange but I'm not sure what the question is about, little more hint?

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posted May 11, 2016 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahaha... see I hate giving hints, because I don't want to make anything bias, but okay! Does this work: Is the situation over between M and I?

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posted May 11, 2016 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi becca, I'd like to exchange too

brb with your question

mine is: -love life in the next few months

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posted May 11, 2016 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
did you closed before or after me?

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posted May 11, 2016 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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hi becca, I'd like to exchange too

brb with your question

mine is: -What does C think of me? she's a friend



Sure. I'll get to yours in a bit/tonight! I am actually in doctor's office waiting room hahaha. Who knows how long this will take

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posted May 11, 2016 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sure. I'll get to yours in a bit/tonight! I am actually in doctor's office waiting room hahaha. Who knows how long this will take

ohhh okay, a I thought you closed the thread after I posted that hahaha

I'll do yours in some minutes

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posted May 11, 2016 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see the card in the middle points to sadness. Is someone sad about this?

Did you find out about something somewhere public or may be through socializing? I see the public card so it could be anywhere from friends or through at some public place. (sometimes at work places)

I also saw that because of some type of bonding or relationship, someone is worried about that. So I think this is about between you and him. So I dont know what type of relationship you two have.

Hmm when I put it together, has someone said something about a relationship in public? And it still shows a woman worried about that or just stressed.. Could be bothering them.

Ring - garden - cross - woman - mice

Does any of this make sense??

This would help alot of if you could may be tell me if the cards make sense though o:


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posted May 11, 2016 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I see the card in the middle points to sadness. Is someone sad about this?

Did you find out about something somewhere public or may be through socializing? I see the public card so it could be anywhere from friends or through at some public place. (sometimes at work places)

I also saw that because of some type of bonding or relationship, someone is worried about that. So I think this is about between you and him. So I dont know what type of relationship you two have.

Hmm when I put it together, has someone said something about a relationship in public? And it still shows a woman worried about that or just stressed.. Could be bothering them.

Ring - garden - cross - woman - mice

Does any of this make sense??

This would help alot of if you could may be tell me if the cards make sense though o:


Since the Cross means pain, definitely the overarching idea is sadness and being a bit unhappy (which vibes with the question of something being over between two people). Again, I don't know what relationship we have either, but I do know that it's not fun anymore and that I'm tired of the disappearing/reappearing act, no matter how constant it is.

Nothing has been said or done in public, but a garden can and often shows going out and socializing, or in this case, a woman who wants to socialize. With the ring and the mice, there's stress because something is stuck in a cycle and not moving forward. Empty promises, in some ways. And in the future, with a woman and mice, it could mean more stress and discomfort.

So... in regards to the question, is it over, I'd maybe take this as a "possibly," or at least the woman (me) is definitely not in a good place and might want to move on.

What can I read for you? I'll have to do it when I finally leave this stupid office waiting room, but I'm happy to.

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posted May 11, 2016 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
May be I could ask what would happen?

If you feel like it later on, could I still may be ask you a question? I think I should ask first to be sure you are okay.

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posted May 11, 2016 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh just saw your response.

Well, if you could ask about the connection between me and E.L.W. That would be fine. Just anything of what you get. :-)

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posted May 11, 2016 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
May be I could ask what would happen?

If you feel like it later on, could I still may be ask you a question? I think I should ask first to be sure you are okay.


Oh, I am fine! Really. Truly. This is just me sort of figuring things out. It's a little sad, to be true, but it's okay Please feel free to ask me whatever you'd like. I really am happy to help! And I do appreciate your reading. I think it's the Universe's way of saying... hey, you know, you can't know. This one's on you kiddo.

Which sucks, but hey, what can you do??

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posted May 11, 2016 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ILovePoems:
Oh just saw your response.

Well, if you could ask about the connection between me and E.L.W. That would be fine. Just anything of what you get. :-)


Sure! Give me just a spot of time.

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posted May 11, 2016 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
becca, here goes ur reading!

8 of swords - Queen of wands with 10 of swords as clarifier - emperor with Queen of Pents as clarifier

Outcome: 5 of Pents - Empress - 2 of Pents

I think it's not over between you two. What I see here, actually very clearly, is that you are probably letting yourself go with some problem that has raised between u two. There has been a recent problem, which for u may seem bigger than it really is, and this, instinctively (not as in intuition, as in a primary reaction) made you think that something worse is really going on. But there is something here, some perspective that you are not able to see. This probably is that, maybe just maybe you think that there has to be much more fun than there actually is between M and you, and this makes you give a thought to your relationship (or whatever you have). But actually, everything is going well here. from his side I see that he has high thinking of you, he really really does respect you.

For the outcome I see that you two will be together through thick and thin

let me know if this resonates!

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posted May 11, 2016 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
orrrrrr, maybe I'm wrong with the outcome and it'll actually be over and you will follow your own path, letting this situation make the best out of yourself

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posted May 11, 2016 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lilypad18:
becca, here goes ur reading!

8 of swords - Queen of wands with 10 of swords as clarifier - emperor with Queen of Pents as clarifier

Outcome: 5 of Pents - Empress - 2 of Pents

I think it's not over between you two. What I see here, actually very clearly, is that you are probably letting yourself go with some problem that has raised between u two. There has been a recent problem, which for u may seem bigger than it really is, and this, instinctively (not as in intuition, as in a primary reaction) made you think that something worse is really going on. But there is something here, some perspective that you are not able to see. This probably is that, maybe just maybe you think that there has to be much more fun than there actually is between M and you, and this makes you give a thought to your relationship (or whatever you have). But actually, everything is going well here. from his side I see that he has high thinking of you, he really really does respect you.

For the outcome I see that you two will be together through thick and thin

let me know if this resonates!


Just saw this and just going in to my appt now. Lots of it resonates. Quick question -- do you see this more as a romantic relationship or professional? I see lots of pents. Sorry! more feedback coming!! gotta run x_x

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posted May 11, 2016 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I felt here a biiiig potential for a romantic relationship, but a mature one, practical, pentacles related hahahah if u know what I mean. one that is built from trust, respect, lots of Saturn here but probably good aspected and good positioned. I really feel he respects you and has some feelings for you

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posted May 11, 2016 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
one more thing, the best relationships are the one built on each one of you making effort every day, not on who loves more or who is the love of each other's life, u know what I mean? and this pentacles here show that, that's why I said it

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posted May 11, 2016 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILovePoems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by beccathelion:
Oh, I am fine! Really. Truly. This is just me sort of figuring things out. It's a little sad, to be true, but it's okay Please feel free to ask me whatever you'd like. I really am happy to help! And I do appreciate your reading. I think it's the Universe's way of saying... hey, you know, you can't know. This one's on you kiddo.

Which sucks, but hey, what can you do??


Its funny because you said that last time, I also had got mice and ring too in the last reading.. You must be really stressed because of this..but I hope everything works out for you. If you feel that something is still there or you don't feel its over then you could be right, but listen to yourself.

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posted May 11, 2016 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think it's not over between you two. What I see here, actually very clearly, is that you are probably letting yourself go with some problem that has raised between u two. There has been a recent problem, which for u may seem bigger than it really is, and this, instinctively (not as in intuition, as in a primary reaction) made you think that something worse is really going on. But there is something here, some perspective that you are not able to see. This probably is that, maybe just maybe you think that there has to be much more fun than there actually is between M and you, and this makes you give a thought to your relationship (or whatever you have). But actually, everything is going well here. from his side I see that he has high thinking of you, he really really does respect you.

For the outcome I see that you two will be together through thick and thin


Alright, thanks so much for the reading! I appreciate it. So I do get the sense there is something going on with him that I can't see/he won't share. Nothing nefarious or even work-related, but certainly strong enough to put distance. The problem is definitely that he doesn't put in his fair share. It's been 9 weeks of him saying, "we will go out again, but..." or "yes, right after..." Completely alright with it at first, but now, it's starting to feel like an excuse. I do think my instincts are saying "cut loose," and maybe I am making a bigger deal out of it than I should, but it is sooo frustrating! We had such a marvelous time the first night we met (very unexpected, very passionate and fun -- he instigated everything!), and now, over two months later, I can't get him to take an hour out of his day. Yet! He texts constantly and even apologizes for long periods of silence. But I definitely feel like two people who are interested in each other should see each other, at least to sort their feelings. Less "fun" more actual, face-to-face interaction. To which he simply says, "Definitely, just after..." I don't need the world or a die-hard commitment or any grand gestures. Just an hour, with a beer, and I'll even pay for my own, you know? And it's like, if he thinks highly of me and respects me... well, alright. Then no more buts. Let's just go. C'est la vie.

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orrrrrr, maybe I'm wrong with the outcome and it'll actually be over and you will follow your own path, letting this situation make the best out of yourself

Ack!! Haha. Here's the struggle I'm having on an intuitive level. My will versus my gut. So what was/is your first impulse?

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I felt here a biiiig potential for a romantic relationship, but a mature one, practical, pentacles related hahahah if u know what I mean. one that is built from trust, respect, lots of Saturn here but probably good aspected and good positioned. I really feel he respects you and has some feelings for you

Hahaha, Saturn. Saturn, Saturn, Saturn, Saturn, then more Saturn. It's everywhere and wickedly stifling at times. He's a Cap Sun/Cap Moon, and we've got a Sun square Saturn in our synastry. Two Yods as well, but still... Saturn. And it's incredibly hard to trust someone and build up these things, for me anyway, over text (his preferred method, Gem/Asc and Aqu/Ven). I guess that's why I want to just see him. Sit with him. Get a read so I can trust that maturity and that patience.

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one more thing, the best relationships are the one built on each one of you making effort every day, not on who loves more or who is the love of each other's life, u know what I mean? and this pentacles here show that, that's why I said it

This is incredibly true, and I definitely agree. I just feel like, at this point, I'm the only one making an effort, and that's when my Lib/Ven starts to get a little cranky, and my Leo Asc/Sun and Sag/Moon start to get itchy and a little bit "scorched-Earth," shall we say? Hahaha. So for me, it does feel a bit over... because what more can I do? I could charge the gates and force the issue, but I just feel like that's bad policy.

Bah! What I mean to say is a great many things resonated, haha, but I still beg the question is it over or should I stand back up and go another round? Going to do your reading here in just a second! Thanks again!

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posted May 11, 2016 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Its funny because you said that last time, I also had got mice and ring too in the last reading.. You must be really stressed because of this..but I hope everything works out for you. If you feel that something is still there or you don't feel its over then you could be right, but listen to yourself.

It is stressful, because it keeps yo-yoing between distance and stoicism, then HEY!! being that nice guy with the niceness and the kindness. It's like being on an effin sea-saw. I have no idea what to do, hahaha, so my knee-jerk is to just run away and be done. THANKS, 12TH HoUSE CANCER!!!

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posted May 11, 2016 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh just saw your response.

Well, if you could ask about the connection between me and E.L.W. That would be fine. Just anything of what you get. :-)


Alright, so please let me know if any of this is off or doesn't resonate! I'm still learning all the twists and turns of my Leno deck

Clover -- Book -- Tower -- Sun -- House (with clarifier Tree)

There's some distance here, I think, or at least, some walls up because someone is trying to keep themselves safe. Almost like Rapunzel... they want to be free, but they're a little unsure how and a little scared to slide down the tower.

The thing not readily seen is: that there is a lot of kindness and happiness underneath those walls. And slowly, but surely, they're being opened up. A sense of learning and growth is being recognized by one or both of you... not necessarily romantic, but certainly friendship at the least. A real sense of comradeship. I keep seeing a girl giggling over a soda or something... just a real sense of fun.

The readily seen is: there was some luck in meeting each other. A nice sense of familiarity, maybe through a family friend or something/somewhere in your comfort level. Not a work event, but maybe a hobby?

So to answer the question of what's the connection, I would say that at first, it was just a lucky chance to learn more about yourselves through your interactions -- a chance to grow mentally and mature a bit. At the moment, there's some hesitation, or perhaps work/school is taking precedent. But in the future, there will be happiness and friendship. Comfort. With the Tree, it tells me this situation may take time to reach it's fullest potential, but there is something nice here to be enjoyed. Not sure if it's romance, but there is a lot of goodwill, I think .

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Alright, so please let me know if any of this is off or doesn't resonate! I'm still learning all the twists and turns of my Leno deck

Clover -- Book -- Tower -- Sun -- House (with clarifier Tree)

There's some distance here, I think, or at least, some walls up because someone is trying to keep themselves safe. Almost like Rapunzel... they want to be free, but they're a little unsure how and a little scared to slide down the tower.

The thing not readily seen is: that there is a lot of kindness and happiness underneath those walls. And slowly, but surely, they're being opened up. A sense of learning and growth is being recognized by one or both of you... not necessarily romantic, but certainly friendship at the least. A real sense of comradeship. I keep seeing a girl giggling over a soda or something... just a real sense of fun.

The readily seen is: there was some luck in meeting each other. A nice sense of familiarity, maybe through a family friend or something/somewhere in your comfort level. Not a work event, but maybe a hobby?

So to answer the question of what's the connection, I would say that at first, it was just a lucky chance to learn more about yourselves through your interactions -- a chance to grow mentally and mature a bit. At the moment, there's some hesitation, or perhaps work/school is taking precedent. But in the future, there will be happiness and friendship. Comfort. With the Tree, it tells me this situation may take time to reach it's fullest potential, but there is something nice here to be enjoyed. Not sure if it's romance, but there is a lot of goodwill, I think .


Interesting reading.

For the tower, could that also mean alone or someone feeling alone? I know he's alone, I kinda do feel alone as well. o:

Ah yes, there is things I didn't know about him but it is truly showing now lol, I do giggle though about some of things I learn about him lol!

Yes! It was actually unexpected when I met him, it was at my house lol! Me and him have almost the same interests actually, can the house mean 'same interests'? as well? xD

The tree, I want to point out, could it also mean healing? I've been getting the tree alot and when I see growth, it could also mean that too but for some reason I think of healing mostly.

I feel like there was a reason why this happened.

Other than that very good! You must be doing leno for a long time? lol

Thank you!

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posted May 11, 2016 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Interesting reading.

For the tower, could that also mean alone or someone feeling alone? I know he's alone, I kinda do feel alone as well. o:

Ah yes, there is things I didn't know about him but it is truly showing now lol, I do giggle though about some of things I learn about him lol!

Yes! It was actually unexpected when I met him, it was at my house lol! Me and him have almost the same interests actually, can the house mean 'same interests'? as well? xD

The tree, I want to point out, could it also mean healing? I've been getting the tree alot and when I see growth, it could also mean that too but for some reason I think of healing mostly.

I feel like there was a reason why this happened.

Other than that very good! You must be doing leno for a long time? lol

Thank you!


The Tower can mean loneliness, and maybe that's where that Rapunzel feeling was coming in -- being solitary. And that's so funny you met at your house! I'm always so nervous when it comes to the literal interpretations, but that's cool! I wouldn't necessarily say the same interests with just the House; there'd have to be some other indicators, but it does also show comfort and warmth, a sense of safety, which I think you two could have in each other. The Tree can mean health and healing, but usually if the Lilies or Bear show up. I typically pull it to mean something worth the wait, and the wait will take time. It's not like the Mountain, where it's going to be drastic and unfortunate and blargh... but that sense of slowness and growth is pronounced. However, the Tree can also represent karmic growth -- a sense of purpose (but in a more "healing" way than the Cross or Key).

And haha, not that long. A few years off and on. I need to be more diligent and do daily meditations, but I'm lazy :P Glad some of it resonated! I got a really nice, warm, safe feeling. At the very least you guys will have a strong friendship.

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mine is: -love life in the next few months

I had the most profound smell of rubbing alcohol when I took a breath to read your cards. Are you a nurse? A caretaker? Regardless, that was weird, and I needed to share Another thing is I've pulled three times... because I can't help feeling like I'm pulling for myself for some reason, even after meditating and focusing on you. So please, if this doesn't resonate, let me know. I'll cleanse my cards and eat some dinner and try to figure out what's going on (never had this feeling before). Maybe that's what the smell was -- my cards telling me to "clean" them haha.

Current situation: Wheel of Fortune
Conflicting/complimenting factor: Eight of Pentacles
Root issue: Six of Pentacles

Relevant past: Page of Swords
How you feel about the situation: Five of Cups
The immediate present: 10 of Pentacles

How you feel/want to feel about yourself: Knight of Cups
Environment around the issue: 10 of Swords
Advice: 3 of Swords
Likely outcome: 3 of Pentacles (with 8 of Swords clarifier)


I get that sense that things are very much up in the air for you, despite your due diligence and your ability not only to work on yourself, but situations. You're incredibly open to the ebb and flow, give and take aspects of a relationship -- is Libra prominent in your chart? There are several pentacles here, but this feels lighter and more cerebral than a connection to an Earth-heavy person. A lot of scattered energy. You have a "wait and see" mentality and a profound faith in your own abilities, I think, but there is still some self-doubt with the 5 of Cups. This idea that while you might have your act together, both spiritually and maybe even professionally... you still don't have what you would like. The 10 of Pentacles in the immediate present tells me that you're actually quite sturdy and at the top of your game in some aspect. Maybe it's time to start a family now that you've achieved career/personal success? In an earlier pull, I had you as the Queen of Wands crossing the Two of Pentacles which meant choices... I feel like you're almost at a "great! Now what?" point... but I might be reading that wrong. Again, this has a lot of scattered energy to it -- lots of bouncing. Almost as if the Universe isn't quite sure what it wants for you yet? Which doesn't make sense, but I said it. Almost like what happens is totally contingent on 50 other choices being made by 50 other people... like a butterfly effect.

You're ready to offer yourself; the Knight of Cups is clear, but the 10 of Swords says some old thinking and old habits need to be purged first (the 5 of Cups could apply here -- not recognizing what you have. Is there someone you've known for a very long time or has been around in the wings? Particularly at work?) The advice is 3 of Swords -- let yourself experience the pain and the fear, the sadness even, of what you don't have at the moment and what's happened in the past. Make room for the new experiences and emotions coming, and they are coming. The 3 of Pentacles tells me that it will be someone with whom you will just "click." It might not feel romantic at first, but it will definitely feel "right." Like a key in a lock. You'll build up a friendship first, a partnership, but it will pay off and happen because you purge and let go of all the energy the 8 of Swords harbors. There'll be some blocks and some hang-ups, things might click too well and that might be unnerving or bring up old wounds. This is why meditating on that energy of the 3 of Swords and letting go of past hurt and regret will be crucial. It's not a bad spread at all, and the 3 is good, and you are almost wherever it is you want to be. Just a few more closets to freshen... then that 3 of Pentacles. It's quite nice actually. It gives me a sly smile

I do hope some of this is right; I really did feel like I was pulling for myself, so it's either all gone haywire, or you and I are at incredibly similar stages. At any rate, please please please let me know. I will definitely re-read if this is off the mark.

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