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Plut0nian2
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posted May 21, 2016 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So why am I not rich or at least economically comfortable when I have Jupiter in Leo in 2nd house with Venus and Mars in there? 
Even when things were well in here I would be in low payment jobs. 
Is it because of Pluto squaring all these 3 planets in my 2nd H? Is it something else? 
Does anyone have tese placements and is also poor? Well not poor like not having food you know.

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posted May 22, 2016 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish the mod had moved your original thread to personal readings instead of just closing it.

Anyway, your statement in the other thread in terms of not wanting/liking to take money from people is the underlying thought that is going to keep you poor for a very long time. That's a typical 8th house Saturn trait.

ETA: with your North Node placement, you tend to give a lot of importance to the marriage partner or to other people.

My Jupiter is conjunct your 2nd house Mars, urging you to aggressively work to get more money for yourself. . Just know that with your natal Pluto squaring your 2nd house Leo stellium, there will be power struggles with other people in getting and keeping more money for yourself. The power struggle might come from lovers, children, or even expensive games and types of enjoyment.

You can still have more money, as indicated by your Leo stellium, but you will have to actually use those planets, and heal your 8th house Saturn's fears and apparent dislike of getting money from people.

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posted May 22, 2016 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure if this also might relate to your situation

Ruler of the 2nd house in 12th house
"Your income is related to some kind of service in connection with healing and welfare, or helping the less fortunate. You may have difficulties evaluating your self worth, which may impinge your level of income. Evaluating your natural talents would bring better financial opportunities. This influence could bring confidential financial support, but also may incline to clandestine or illegal business. Avoid any easy business that may imply some risk or commitment."

^from cafe astrology.com

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posted May 23, 2016 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
I wish the mod had moved your original thread to personal readings instead of just closing it.

Anyway, your statement in the other thread in terms of not wanting/liking to take money from people is the underlying thought that is going to keep you poor for a very long time. That's a typical 8th house Saturn trait.

ETA: with your North Node placement, you tend to give a lot of importance to the marriage partner or to other people.

My Jupiter is conjunct your 2nd house Mars, urging you to aggressively work to get more money for yourself. . Just know that with your natal Pluto squaring your 2nd house Leo stellium, there will be power struggles with other people in getting and keeping more money for yourself. The power struggle might come from lovers, children, or even expensive games and types of enjoyment.

You can still have more money, as indicated by your Leo stellium, but you will have to actually use those planets, and heal your 8th house Saturn's fears and apparent dislike of getting money from people.


I know right? But thanks for finding my thread again and replying

To be honest about the Saturn in 8th H, I do not like to get money from others but others do not give me money anyway (except from my parents and and two aunts of mine like in Christmas etc)
Funny thing is the most money I was getting in a weekly base was when my father lived whose Natal Saturn was in exact conjuction with my Natal Saturn. Even though before the crisis in my country I would be in low payed jobs.

With the North Node is quite the opposite
I do not want to get married neither I want to have children, my dream is to be alone and wealthy so that I can take care of my mom and my aunt and her family and I can have an easy life because I am sick of not having money. So you were right that I am thinking other people too. I wish I could be so rich to help everyone but I know this will never happen so at least my mom and my aunt.

The Pluto thing.. I am trying sooo hard to understand how Pluto affects my money in a bad way but I really cant. I know 5th house is about children, sex, flert, fun and gambling. I did never do any of these though. The only thing I have done is flirting (but I've never lost any money or opportunity to make money because of it) and the other thing was having fun like going out and dancing like once a week and I barely drunk just 1 drink. No expensive games or types of enjoyment because even if I wanted to I never had the money for something like that.

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posted May 23, 2016 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquagembaby:
I'm not sure if this also might relate to your situation

Ruler of the 2nd house in 12th house
"Your income is related to some kind of service in connection with healing and welfare, or helping the less fortunate. You may have difficulties evaluating your self worth, which may impinge your level of income. Evaluating your natural talents would bring better financial opportunities. This influence could bring confidential financial support, but also may incline to clandestine or illegal business. Avoid any easy business that may imply some risk or commitment."

^from cafe astrology.com



Thank you too for replying

Ive thought of it too.
But although I tend to help others (not money wise) but in a psychological level and in other practical ways, I do not know why I do it at such a point but I wish I could stop it because I never get help and the ironic thing is that many times I am helping others be reminding them how unfortunate I am in all levels so they feel better for themselves, which means I am always the more unfortunate one.
I have also been in hospital maaaany times
One year and a half because of my father
I go often also because of myself too
And I've been there for my mother too
In one way or another I am frequently visiting hospital and doctors since 2009.
In there I am also helping other patients
I deeply dislike it though, anything that has to do with hospitals, jails, addicted to drugs people etc. Anything that has to do with 12th H.
Even if I could become rich by working in there I prefer not to. I would be depressed and like kill myself at some point because every time I help someone I lock any kind of negativity inside me, as if I do not have many serious problems for myself.

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posted May 23, 2016 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Plut0nian2!

A more positive view on the 2nd house ruler in the 12th could be that your savings may accumulate through matters in very distant lands or business dealings in foreign countries (offshore anything).
As for your 5th house perhaps your childhood was very transformative in certain ways - your situation was often changing or your surroundings somehow. Judging by your nickname you inherited this and integrated it in to your self.
There is a slight chance that you may have some odd-defeating luck if you play lotteries, or you could lose your savings if you decide to play such games or gamble your money to win more. 5th house ruler in the second, Scorpio's 2 rules - Mars and Pluto - in a square.

What's more significant and is more likely to manifest later in your life is that you will want to find a partner.
You're currently still trying to operate more from your 1st house South Node. Yes, i can see how you want to make your own money and living, be independent, providing enough for yourself and being able to support your family (as a caring Cancer). However, this is exactly why it is not quite working for you.
In this life time, or with this specific chart configuration, you are pushed to become more of a "other people's" person. With the North Node in your 7th house relationships with anyone outside of your family will start to be more important to you with time. And this is how you will start to accumulate more assets and money. Through business partnerships or through your husband. The 7th house is recognised as the house of any person that is outside of your family circle. But because the NN is in there, it doesn't mean that the things of this house will come easy to you and without your initiative. But you will start to feel better about yourself and your savings when the NN starts manifesting. With Neptune there you might attract a set of such people - some may be deceptive, some may suffer from Neptune-associated diseases - neurosis, anxiety, etc., you'll probably be meeting "artistic" people too - musicians, arts people, con artists...
But at some point marriage should become important to you. You will want to settle with a partner, and he will most likely be older than you. The sex life might be somewhat restricted, dull or just very traditional.
Your husband may also be your business partner and you may have joint finances.
He may be a very serious, business-oriented person.
Your marriage should be long and stable, once you've settled. This doesn't mean that you shouldn't put any work in to it, quite the opposite. With NN in the 7th you will want to put the effort to maintain your relationships.

This might sound scary or weird, with your SN in the 1st house, but to a degree some of these things will probably manifest for you and this will make your life happier and more complete.
With your Saturn Mahadasha approaching, in 2 years time you will probably see yourself in more situations related to Saturn and the 7th and 8th house matters.

Don't worry about how much you have now, just do your best and everything else will fall into place!

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posted May 23, 2016 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ Everything outofideas said. :up:

I wanted to add that your chart ruler is the moon and it's in Pisces in the 9th house, conjunct your part of fortune and trine your 12th house sun. It's important to keep faith in a higher power, to keep your mood balanced and happy, it will help things overall working for you.

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posted May 23, 2016 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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A more positive view on the 2nd house ruler in the 12th could be that your savings may accumulate through matters in very distant lands or business dealings in foreign countries (offshore anything).

I wish I could go in other countries (my aunt found me a really high paying job) but I have to stay in my country in fact in my city, because my mom does not want to live alone, she does not know english at all, I can not leave her alone (she was like that even before my father's death which happened 3 years ago). So unfortunately I can not do that.


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As for your 5th house perhaps your childhood was very transformative in certain ways - your situation was often changing or your surroundings somehow. Judging by your nickname you inherited this and integrated it in to your self.
There is a slight chance that you may have some odd-defeating luck if you play lotteries, or you could lose your savings if you decide to play such games or gamble your money to win more. 5th house ruler in the second, Scorpio's 2 rules - Mars and Pluto - in a square.

Well I chose this nickname because Pluto in my chart is a strong planet aspecting almost all of my planets and asc.
Also 99% of people guessing my sign believe I am a Scorpio. I also attract way to many scorpios and I always feel for scorpios (specifically I've always fallen for scorpios born late November 1989, they have some Capricorn in their natal charts too). I also have many scorpio traits. So that is how I came up with my nickname

Fortunately I don't feel attracted by those kind of games and I am unlucky in all aspects of life so I did never thought I would be lucky in these games.

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What's more significant and is more likely to manifest later in your life is that you will want to find a partner.
You're currently still trying to operate more from your 1st house South Node. Yes, i can see how you want to make your own money and living, be independent, providing enough for yourself and being able to support your family (as a caring Cancer). However, this is exactly why it is not quite working for you.
In this life time, or with this specific chart configuration, you are pushed to become more of a "other people's" person. With the North Node in your 7th house relationships with anyone outside of your family will start to be more important to you with time. And this is how you will start to accumulate more assets and money. Through business partnerships or through your husband. The 7th house is recognised as the house of any person that is outside of your family circle. But because the NN is in there, it doesn't mean that the things of this house will come easy to you and without your initiative. But you will start to feel better about yourself and your savings when the NN starts manifesting. With Neptune there you might attract a set of such people - some may be deceptive, some may suffer from Neptune-associated diseases - neurosis, anxiety, etc., you'll probably be meeting "artistic" people too - musicians, arts people, con artists...
But at some point marriage should become important to you. You will want to settle with a partner, and he will most likely be older than you. The sex life might be somewhat restricted, dull or just very traditional.
Your husband may also be your business partner and you may have joint finances.
He may be a very serious, business-oriented person.
Your marriage should be long and stable, once you've settled. This doesn't mean that you shouldn't put any work in to it, quite the opposite. With NN in the 7th you will want to put the effort to maintain your relationships.

This might sound scary or weird, with your SN in the 1st house, but to a degree some of these things will probably manifest Mahadashand this will make your life happier and more complete.
With your Saturn Mahadasha approaching, in 2 years time you will probably see yourself in more situations related to Saturn and the 7th and 8th house matters.


Scary its a very light word to use for this. I've read almost anything I could find in google about NN in 7th H.
So I get what and why you're saying this. But why does "life" want to punish me? They way you're describing my future sounds like a nightmare to me, there is no way for me to be happy by sharing my money with a stranger that will cheat me at some point 99%, I may sound dramatic but because of my mom's work I know many women, all of them find out at some point that their husband has cheated on them multiple times. There is no way that all these women are stupid or unlucky and I will be the smart or lucky one that won't get cheated. Especially with a dull boring sex.
Why should anything of these make me happy? I can not find a reason for sharing my money.. Living with someone means that I have to work to clean to cook and by the end of the day I should have the strength to have sex just to get cheated in the end and gain nothing. I dont feel the need for sex any more, I wanted to be in a relationship and have sex until my 21 years of life, after 21 years old I do not even want to be in a relationship and I avoid even talking to men, oh.. And I dont want sex at all anymore. And truth to be told if you're more than 23 years old virgin and especially if you don't want kids and marriage then chances are you'll stay like that forever.
If I live alone I will have all the money for me and I will pay, clean and cook just for one person and that will be me. All we have is ourselves, we are always alone and even our mothers want something in return for bringing as up as if they didn't do it because they wanted a kid for themselves, and it's not like someone asked you if you want to be born or not.
Helping others is something I do all the time and I try to reduce it because in the end of the day I am the loser and I get all the negative energy around me inside me. All for nothing.
Nothing good in return, I am always the strong one listening and helping others to move on, to feel better, amd most of the times people feel better when I compare my life to theirs.. Can you guess what that means? That all people I know near my age have a better luck in life than me. So no… I don't help the less fortunate but the more fortunate than me. I try to reduce it though, because I am tired of this.
So all these things you are saying are the exact opposite of what I want. I dont want to be other's person anymore I dont want to be the fool that someone wants to take advantage of.
No matter how much I care and help others, no one does it for me. (Except some family members but I am talking for people outside my family) so people do not deserve it because all they think it is themeselves.
I always had many friends, some of them good ones some just for fun, I've also fallen hars for some men that have fallen for me too, in the end it was not worth it, because although I know that it'll take me 2 or 3 years to get completely over someone, the pain is much more than the pleasure the received. But with money it's quite the opposite, it is just pleasure and pleasure money makes me really happy. Health and money are the most important thinga in this world anything else can be tolerated.
*I don't like artist etc on the contrary I find them repulsive, but I like cold serious people working in suits,
But I cam not stand the big age gap. 2-3 years older than me not more.
I also don't search for a savior or for someone to save. But Neptune in my 7th H for me has manifested in a different way. Remember I told you that until my 21 years old I wanted a relationship but I never had one? This is why I never really wanted a real relationship, this also explains why alL my relationships were platonic ones. I didn't want a real relationship but one that existed only in my fantasy. So I wanted a relationship the way I was fantasizing it but there is no relationship like that. I realised it a bit late. Amd another way Neptune in 7th H may affect me is that I have high standards.

Anyway this is huge and the fact that English is not my mother language makes it twice more difficult to read. I am sorey but I wanted to explain my point of view it may help anyone understand how some things in my chart work for me. Also I may seem aggressive towards you, but I am really not on the contrary thank you very much for replying in such a way (analytical & very satisfying)

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posted May 23, 2016 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand that you're very sensitive. Perhaps the recent conjunction of transiting Neptune to your Moon really enhanced how you perceive your surroundings. i recently had the square of this transit and it wasn't easy. It really sensitizes you.

I didn't say that life wants to punish you, but push you in that direction for whatever purpose your soul needs to fulfil.
Probably the most difficult houses to have the nodal axis in are the 1st and 7th. I have the NN in the 1st so i can relate in a way. It's really tough, there's often the me versus others problem. And i am also extremely sensitive to other people and collect their negativity very easily.
However, you not need to burden your soul with this much worry. I can see why you wouldn't want to share your stuff with someone. With the SN in the 1st house you probably come from a past where you felt very good being on your own. But listen, a relationship doesn't mean that you have to be someone's slave. Not at all. That's probably the stereotype you're used to seeing where you live, but that doesn't mean you will repeat it. It takes a strong individual to be in a healthy relationship with others. With SN in the 1st you've already mastered your individuality. Of course you don't need to settle for something you really dislike. But we co-exist with other humans so relating with people can bring real happiness. Definitely don't give too much of yourself that you feel exhausted by others.

It's funny what you said about parents upbringing us... some really do see their children as a long-term investment that should be taking care of them one day.
I completely agree that the most important thing is health. It has become my first priority. However, money i see as a necessity. I can't see real happiness in them, bathing in millions wouldn't make you feel any happier about yourself.

With Neptune in the 7th you tend to idealise relationships too much. With my SN in the 7th i used to think that i am destined to be in a relationship. I now think otherwise.

If you get the opportunity to move abroad you will change your chart's house cusps and things might work better for you elsewhere. But for now don't isolate others.... just moderate the time you spend with them to your own needs. You never know, through this a life-changing opportunity might arise for you.

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posted May 24, 2016 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[/B][/QUOTE] I understand that you're very sensitive. Perhaps the recent conjunction of transiting Neptune to your Moon really enhanced how you perceive your surroundings. i recently had the square of this transit and it wasn't easy. It really sensitizes you.

I didn't say that life wants to punish you, but push you in that direction for whatever purpose your soul needs to fulfil.[/B][/QUOTE]

I know you didn't say something like that
But to me, it's the most beautiful thing in the world to be happy with yourself, I pitty people like my mom who wants to be with me 24 hours a day everyday, she can not have fun time alone,
or like some girls are totally dependent on their boyfriends, they have a haircut done and they wait for their boyfriends to decide if they will like the haircut themselves or not. They do not even have a personality. I am sorry but this is way to stupid for me. It's ok to ask your boyfriends opinion but it's not ok not to have your own especially when it has to do with yourself. I find it pitifull.
So I am a lucky one that I have really fun time when I am alone and I am never bored.
Why should my happiness depend on someone else later with whom I‘ll have to be slave like (I mean I'll habe to work and cook and clean for him and share my money and have sex with him which will be dull) and I will have to work hard for this relationship in order to make it good.
And you expect me to not see this as s punishment? XD
It looks like a slave‘s job to me
If I would like that I would also wanted to have children but no thanks.
To me it's exactly the same thing plus children do not cheat on you.

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Probably the most difficult houses to have the nodal axis in are the 1st and 7th. I have the NN in the 1st so i can relate in a way. It's really tough, there's often the me versus others problem. And i am also extremely sensitive to other people and collect their negativity very easily.

So you have the opposite! Hehe
That means that you should be like me and I should be like you as far as relationships go?
Where is your moon? I feel like the fault for absorbing my environment‘s negativity and for the fact that I can not stop helping others are all because of my moon in Pisces.

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However, you not need to burden your soul with this much worry. I can see why you wouldn't want to share your stuff with someone. With the SN in the 1st house you probably come from a past where you felt very good being on your own. But listen, a relationship doesn't mean that you have to be someone's slave. Not at all. That's probably the stereotype you're used to seeing where you live, but that doesn't mean you will repeat it. It takes a strong individual to be in a healthy relationship with others. With SN in the 1st you've already mastered your individuality. Of course you don't need to settle for something you really dislike. But we co-exist with other humans so relating with people can bring real happiness. Definitely don't give too much of yourself that you feel exhausted by others.

I can understand what you're saying. Since I was a child I was always with many people around. Cousins aunts and grandmother and grandfather visit us very often and they stay here for days. My mom alone is like you have 10 women in the house. (I don't get along with her, she is not a bad person at all but she is compulsive/repressive and everything get on her nerves, and for she is happy that I don't want to marry etc because I'll stay with her but even if I get married she is sure that I will stay in the same house with her?! When I was younger and I told her that if I find a stable job I will move in a different house she was screaming and crying like a crazy person you know?)
My dad on the other hand was the best person on the earth, I could live with him forever and I could be happy! I have many friends and in fact there is never quiet in my house smth that is why I always wanted to stay somewhere alone.
But I also could live in the same house forever with 3 friends of mine or with my aunt. Because all of them are quiet people and organised. And when you say I say I just want to stay alone in my room they want act like my mom who is asking me 91837 questioms per second.
So the problem is that there is no quiet place for me I've always lived in a noisy house.
As for the stereotype you mentioned, all men and generally our relatives‘ marriages are good, but women are working cooking cleaning raising the children, and men just work nothing more.
I don't want to cook though. It get on my nerves doing it once in a while let alome doing it in a daily basis. That is why money it's the solution to almost any problem.


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It's funny what you said about parents upbringing us... some really do see their children as a long-term investment that should be taking care of them one day.

I know.. my mom is one of them :P

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I completely agree that the most important thing is health. It has become my first priority. However, money i see as a necessity. I can't see real happiness in them, bathing in millions wouldn't make you feel any happier about yourself.

Hahahahah <3 You are forgetting the fact that you are talking to a person with Venus, Mars and Jupiter in LEO all of them in the 2nd house of money, materials and food.
Money for me is happiness and not having money is sadness. Money equals freedom, money is the solution to almost any problem. I can find you a million reasons why money can make me actually happy. It has nothing to do with myself. Because even if I am ok with myself if I don't have money I won't be able to buy food and so I'll die. Thousands of people die everyday because they don't have money. Others kill themselves in my country because eof the crisis they dont have to pay their bills. Young people have depression because they can not find money for themselves. They can not go out for a coffee or a drink they can not, 50 years old men still living with their parents because they can not afford renting a house which are dirty cheap in here. This is something usual in my country. Give money to someone who is not already rich and you‘ll see true appiness in their eyes. People kill and steal for money.

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With Neptune in the 7th you tend to idealise relationships too much. With my SN in the 7th i used to think that i am destined to be in a relationship. I now think otherwise.

That's what I thought until I became 21 years old. In fact I was sure that I would be in a relationship until then in a magical way.
That it will happen to me as it happened to all others around me. But no.
Neptune gives me high expectations though.

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If you get the opportunity to move abroad you will change your chart's house cusps and things might work better for you elsewhere. But for now don't isolate others.... just moderate the time you spend with them to your own needs. You never know, through this a life-changing opportunity might arise for you.

You mean that if I was able to move abroad the transits would change right?
I wish I could really isolate others but I can not, whatever I do I can not be alone
Someone told me that the first 30 to 35 years of my life becaus eof the North Nose in my 7th H I would not be alone no matter how much I wanted it. And I thought maybe that is why we always have so many people in my house everyday. But he told me that after the age of 30 I will be rewarded with the loneliness I needed all those years. Also although I was once told that with North Node in 7th H I can not stay unmarried, I?ve also seen that people who tend to be solo all their lives are the ones with North Node in 7th H and those with Saturn in 7th H or Saturn as Lord of 7th H. I have them both! So I still hope I won't end up married.

The only thing that worries me are money
I thought that Jupiter with Venus in Leo in 2nd house would bring me money but no
Some told me that when progressive Jupiter, venus, move in my 2nd house I will have plenty of money. But even then it will be too late.

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posted May 24, 2016 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Moon is in Gemini.
i think it's more on the 1st - 7th house nodal polarity that gives this constant struggle between others and the self, than where your Moon is placed. Although it's only one of the many aspects that could give the feeling we are a mop for other people's negativity.

In my early life i was often conditioned to be by myself. And i really enjoyed those times. But my Moon in Gemini needs a few things happening at the same time so i often realise that i need other people's company. I find it's much more fun sharing moments together. I can't imagine life without being in at least a few close relationships. Although the latest tendencies around me keep weighing towards people wanting to be more by themselves, independent from others.

Personally i'm often put in situations where i need to rely on others for things. Which is definitely not making me happy. But sometimes there's just no other way.
My job also pays very little. And what's worse it's in the outskirts of the city so the public transportation for that location is very irregular. So i am forced to rely on my colleagues to take me in their car, otherwise i'll always be very late for work. I've been wishing to have my own car and be independent in that way, but i don't see this happening at all. It's just impossible with this salary and my current conditioning.
I am from Bulgaria, so we are neighbours and i know the crisis we are in.

I also meant to say if you move to another country, your planets and aspects remain the same, but the Ascendant changes and therefore the house cusps. Which then may change your NN and SN axis to the 4th and 10th houses for example.
The transits to your planetary configurations never change though, wherever you may go.
As for the North Node, i think it brings it's rewards until the age of 42, then you are released from its obsessive nature. At least that's what i know from Vedic Astrology. Anyway, in any case, NN in the 7th house does not mean that you will definitely marry. It just indicates that it would be something that you will be going after.
But i know how comfortable the South Node can be
And that's fine, as long as you can integrate your NN's purpose in to it.

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posted May 24, 2016 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for the double post.

I know how bad it is when you have to rely on others I totally understand.

Your Moon in Gemini makes you sociable or at least a person that needs to communicate I guess.
For you beinf like a mop absorbing negative energy around you is normal becaus eof you SN in 7th H but for me with SN in first house it should be the opposite guess.
But if you read for moon in pisces its exactly like that.

Thank you very much for your help

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posted May 25, 2016 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AutumnNight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1.You have chiron in 1st house which could indicate some personal soul searching and healing is needed for self.

2. Not to sound like an A-hole. But, you are only around 25 years of age. Most people don't reach financial security until age of 30 or older. Even wealthy people may not have reach a level of wealth until older in their 20's unless they broke into the technology world.

3. I put it in my vedic system because I am better with vedic than western for birth data. You have 4 planets in 2nd house. Also 2nd house in vedic is more like family, early childhood, money we get from family, and savings.

4. 11th house is income from jobs and career. Your 11th house ruler is Mars and it sits in 2nd house. A lot of your gains might come through your family, support system, or liquid assets.

5. Jupiter karaka for husbands and venus relationships are in 2nd house. Which to me indicate a lot of your wealth in your life is going to come through relationships and even someone you choose to be with (whether this is marrying or not.) Alternatively jupiter means children.

6. Also you have 4 planets in your 2nd house..ruled by Moon. Moon is 8 houses from it. 8th house is of inheritance too. You probably will inherit stuff from your mother that in turn could increase your accumulated wealth. These planets are a combination of Neutral & great enemy. So your accumulated wealth may go up and down. Some normal/fine times and some not the most amazing time.

7. Mars is debilitated in cancer. Cancer rules your 2nd house and Mars is the ruler of the 11th house (gains from career/profession). Mars is also sitting in a position within a sign (called nakshatra) that deals with disruptions.

8. Jupiter is exalted in Cancer... Cancer signify children, husbands, and for your chart 7th house (partner/other people) and 10 house (career, image in society, government, authority, profession). Jupiter is also in the same nakshatra of disruption. Jupiter ruler of 10th house may show disruption in your career.

9. Rahu is in your 7th house and Ketu is in your first (north/south node) and this indicates in this lifetime the greatest lessons you will learn about yourself is through your relationships with other people (whether romantic or not.)

Overall...I think your family and those you chose to have a relationship with in your life as you continue to live in this world is going to play a major role in your finances...especially accumulated wealth (2nd house matter.)

Mahadasha...
You are in Jupiter is 2nd house (so accumulated wealth and support system.)

Jupiter as ruler is 1st house...ruler of 6th and 9th. So during this time you might have worries about debt, just anxiety, feeling of imprisonment, diseases, maternal aunt/uncles, etc. As well as fortune, higher education, relationship with father figure, spirituality, foreign travel, and pilgrimages...and this will be on your mind.

Jupiter is transiting 3rd house....so short travels or even change of residence might be something you are having to face at the time to better your accumulated money.

I'm still a newbie...so take this with a grain of salt. But, i see family and relationships of all forms important to your accumulated wealth and gains. In addition D-10 chart for career might need to be assessed.

If you want I can look at your D-10 chart later on. But, just remember that just because a chart says something doesn't mean you can't find a way to rise above it and succeed in whatever endeavors you want.

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posted May 25, 2016 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AutumnNight:
1.You have chiron in 1st house which could indicate some personal soul searching and healing is needed for self.

2. Not to sound like an A-hole. But, you are only around 25 years of age. Most people don't reach financial security until age of 30 or older. Even wealthy people may not have reach a level of wealth until older in their 20's unless they broke into the technology world.

3. I put it in my vedic system because I am better with vedic than western for birth data. You have 4 planets in 2nd house. Also 2nd house in vedic is more like family, early childhood, money we get from family, and savings.

4. 11th house is income from jobs and career. Your 11th house ruler is Mars and it sits in 2nd house. A lot of your gains might come through your family, support system, or liquid assets.

5. Jupiter karaka for husbands and venus relationships are in 2nd house. Which to me indicate a lot of your wealth in your life is going to come through relationships and even someone you choose to be with (whether this is marrying or not.) Alternatively jupiter means children.

6. Also you have 4 planets in your 2nd house..ruled by Moon. Moon is 8 houses from it. 8th house is of inheritance too. You probably will inherit stuff from your mother that in turn could increase your accumulated wealth. These planets are a combination of Neutral & great enemy. So your accumulated wealth may go up and down. Some normal/fine times and some not the most amazing time.

7. Mars is debilitated in cancer. Cancer rules your 2nd house and Mars is the ruler of the 11th house (gains from career/profession). Mars is also sitting in a position within a sign (called nakshatra) that deals with disruptions.

8. Jupiter is exalted in Cancer... Cancer signify children, husbands, and for your chart 7th house (partner/other people) and 10 house (career, image in society, government, authority, profession). Jupiter is also in the same nakshatra of disruption. Jupiter ruler of 10th house may show disruption in your career.

9. Rahu is in your 7th house and Ketu is in your first (north/south node) and this indicates in this lifetime the greatest lessons you will learn about yourself is through your relationships with other people (whether romantic or not.)

Overall...I think your family and those you chose to have a relationship with in your life as you continue to live in this world is going to play a major role in your finances...especially accumulated wealth (2nd house matter.)

Mahadasha...
You are in Jupiter is 2nd house (so accumulated wealth and support system.)

Jupiter as ruler is 1st house...ruler of 6th and 9th. So during this time you might have worries about debt, just anxiety, feeling of imprisonment, diseases, maternal aunt/uncles, etc. As well as fortune, higher education, relationship with father figure, spirituality, foreign travel, and pilgrimages...and this will be on your mind.

Jupiter is transiting 3rd house....so short travels or even change of residence might be something you are having to face at the time to better your accumulated money.

I'm still a newbie...so take this with a grain of salt. But, i see family and relationships of all forms important to your accumulated wealth and gains. In addition D-10 chart for career might need to be assessed.

If you want I can look at your D-10 chart later on. But, just remember that just because a chart says something doesn't mean you can't find a way to rise above it and succeed in whatever endeavors I you want.


Thank you very much for your help

Unforunately although I've one made my vedic chart I do not know anything about vedic astrology.
I also do not know what a D-10 chart is

And you didn't sound like an ****** at all
I get what you mean. But most people in my age are better than me economically and only in that way.
I also have health problems that do not allow me to work

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posted May 25, 2016 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AutumnNight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Thank you very much for your help

Unforunately although I've one made my vedic chart I do not know anything about vedic astrology.
I also do not know what a D-10 chart is

And you didn't sound like an ****** at all
I get what you mean. But most people in my age are better than me economically and only in that way.
I also have health problems that do not allow me to work


Happy I didn't sound like an A-hole.

This is just my personal advice....but focus on yourself and find happiness in small ways. We all live life differently and we always....no matter how perfect our life could be...we will always be thinking someone has something better than us. Find ways to cheer yourself up...explore who you are. Find your personal truth.

So I did take a small peak at your D chart... it all points to 2nd house again. I could look at it more later tonight if you wish.

Also sorry to hear about your health issues. I have health issues and had major surgery. It is especially can be hard if you are not hundred percent sure what your health issue is can make it feel like life is on pause because not sure what one can or cannot do.

If you want me to look at your D-10 chart I could.

I thought you could possibly have health issues because you have two planets in your 1st house.

Well let me know if you want me to at least give my novice opinion on the D-10 chart.

But, in the end I think as long as you have support and you are able to eat well, have a place to sleep, as well as healthcare you are in a better position than 2/3 of the world.

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posted May 25, 2016 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AutumnNight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plus you still have more time on earth..there is always chance for you to grow economically.

Take this time to figure yourself out and how to pave your pathway in life.

I know people your age who are still relying on their family for a lot.

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posted May 26, 2016 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know because that is exactly how I feel those last 2 years like my life is a pause
But in some way I felt like this
Since I became 18 years old
It was then that my health problems showed up for the first time in serious way.
Them I stayed 1 year and a half in a hospital with my father and then he dies and now I amjust with my mother and I never got along with her.
(Oh if it's not too much to ask, is it possible to see when a person will get fat or lose weight? Although I had Transit Saturn in my 6th h I did not lose weight at all. I kniw many people who lost weight by this transit )
Oh andwhat you said about not knowing what my problem is.
Yes! Since 2009 I am goimg to doctors all the time and I found in the end of 2014 What my problem could be. And I need to have an operation too

I searched at google what a D-10 is
If you are in the mood whenever you have time
Have a look please.
Sometimes I feel I have many talents according to what people tell me. (I thought all could dance well naturally and all know how to put makeup on and look really good for example) but it seems that is not the case

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posted May 26, 2016 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AutumnNight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I know because that is exactly how I feel those last 2 years like my life is a pause
But in some way I felt like this
Since I became 18 years old
It was then that my health problems showed up for the first time in serious way.
Them I stayed 1 year and a half in a hospital with my father and then he dies and now I amjust with my mother and I never got along with her.
(Oh if it's not too much to ask, is it possible to see when a person will get fat or lose weight? Although I had Transit Saturn in my 6th h I did not lose weight at all. I kniw many people who lost weight by this transit )
Oh andwhat you said about not knowing what my problem is.
Yes! Since 2009 I am goimg to doctors all the time and I found in the end of 2014 What my problem could be. And I need to have an operation too

I searched at google what a D-10 is
If you are in the mood whenever you have time
Have a look please.
Sometimes I feel I have many talents according to what people tell me. (I thought all could dance well naturally and all know how to put makeup on and look really good for example) but it seems that is not the case


I wouldn't know how to figure out weight loss yet.

Sorry for the lost of your father Sun and Ketu are together which definitely could show a lost of a father figure.

I'll check out your D-10 chart. There is a specific chart for health believe it is
D-6 chart. I could try with that and see what comes up.

I give people applause who could do wonderful amazing make-up each morning. I'm more of just keeping my skin healthy, wearing eyeliner, mascara, and lipstick/balm....The most dress up I get is a subtle smokey eye lol.

Well I'll post little by little this week. Hopefully i can help a bit even though i consider myself still a novice.

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posted May 26, 2016 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AutumnNight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well you have saturn in 4th house of D-6 chart...

saturn is ruler of 6th house

nakshatra is jyeshtha which deals with neck and torso health.

4th house deals with chest, heart, & hereditary.

Saturn deals with chronic complaints, joint diseases, extreme weight lost, paralysis, deformities, body temp (coldness).

Saturn and Mars is transiting the 6th house... Mars deals with surgery. So if you illness aligns with Saturn and the 4th house. Saturn is the lord of your 6th house in the D-6.

Saturn entered the same nakshatra as the staurn in the D-6 chart around March 26, 2015.
So you might have started seeing it get worst around April 1st and April 2nd of 2015

Mars entered your natal birth chart on February 21st 2016
February 20th might have been an important day.

Also stuff about the Heart organ keeps coming up.

You entered Jupiter-rahu in 2014. Rahu sits in 6th house from jupiter.

Well hope this shed a bit of light on it. I could be totally wrong.


Jupiter dasha (our life is ruled by a planet in section...so the rulership can last for a short time or a long time.)
Sun (father) and Ketu (loss) was in the 12th house of loss -afterlife, hospital, etc.-.


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posted May 29, 2016 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much for your time and explanation
Unfortunately I can not discuss it with you because I don't know anything about vedic astrology.
But I appreciate your effort

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