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Saille
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posted August 01, 2016 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi R,

We've both did readings for melodiemelodie never got a readings back in turn. Its frustrating to do a one sided exchange. not fair.

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cherful24
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posted August 02, 2016 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People should be blocked for like a week if this is the behavior they choose to have.

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Randall
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posted August 02, 2016 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's only been two days. Give a person a chance.

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Astro keen
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posted August 02, 2016 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, do give people the benefit of the doubt.

I was attacked once for not being able to return a reading. This occurred when there was a death in my family and returning readings was the last thing on my mind.

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cherful24
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posted August 02, 2016 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one died. I think you are responding to the wrong thread???

QUOTE]Originally posted by Astro keen:
Yes, do give people the benefit of the doubt.

I was attacked once for not being able to return a reading. This occurred when there was a death in my family and returning readings was the last thing on my mind. [/QUOTE]

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cherful24
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posted August 02, 2016 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sallie, I agree with U. The site doesn't have any mechanisms in place for people who have a habit of getting free readings. This person has done so in the past. This reading in question we've been given the opportunity for her to honor twice now. I think two times giving the benefit of the doubt is more then enough. Nobody expects anything for free with paid sites. This type of behavior wouldn't be excusable on this site. It's sites like this that have very little integrity that make it too frustrating for professionals to come on & instead of getting paid for their services, offer an exchange service instead.

It's disrespectful, period. Sallie there are two other chat forums that offer professional readers a chance to gain better experience with other professional readers. Most times it's free ( exchange) or at a very small free. This situation hardly ever happens on those sites. I've had good experiences. Respect is given.

All u have to do is Google tarot forums for professional, and the links should come up.

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Magikaal
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posted August 02, 2016 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Magikaal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Randall? I have a question - is there any easy way to see the posts you've written? I ask because I find it hard to find my older posts and see if anyone has added messages to them. Say, if they were asking to clarify a reading.

I wasn't sure if maybe sometimes people forget because their thread gets buried.

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Randall
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posted August 02, 2016 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can search your posts at www.lindagoodman.org or search for any topics also.

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Enneline
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posted August 02, 2016 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@randall: I face the same problem. At least one lady owes me a reading and not enough that despite some reminders, she would keep on ignoring me but she would post further reading requests
Is that acceptable? Is there anything you can do about?

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Randall
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posted August 02, 2016 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you really want a reading from someone who doesn't want to willingly give it? Would that not call into question the quality of said reading? But from here on out, anyone not honoring an agreed-upon exchange will be banned.

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Astro keen
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posted August 02, 2016 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But you will need to take into account people who are new to the site and who may not be aware of readers' circumstances. They may be rather too happy to exercise their right to ask for bans.

There are some really fantastic readers who have been hugely generous and giving with their time, but cannot be rushed because of home circumstances.

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Enneline
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posted August 02, 2016 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Do you really want a reading from someone who doesn't want to willingly give it? Would that not call into question the quality of said reading? But from here on out, anyone not honoring an agreed-upon exchange will be banned.

no, of course not, that's not the point. My point is that i/we basically get cheated and there was nothing we could do about

but from now on, the rule you just set up applies

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melodiemelodie
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posted August 02, 2016 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for melodiemelodie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
It's only been two days. Give a person a chance.

Thank you Randall for your common sense. I have been dealing with health issues and have had a few appointments for blood tests and have to follow a diet that makes me lethargic. I was so surprised to come here and see the hostility and anger after just two days.

I am sincerely glad I did my readings for both Cherful24 and Saillie before reading this thread, as I have truly invested my best and purest energy into them. Don't regret doing them, but don't forsee myself exchanging with you in the future unfortunately.

Quite disappointed though I am grateful for your readings. Thank you Magikaal for your patience.

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Saille
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posted August 02, 2016 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by melodiemelodie:
Thank you Randall for your common sense. I have been dealing with health issues and have had a few appointments for blood tests and have to follow a diet that makes me lethargic. I was so surprised to come here and see the hostility and anger after just two days.

I am sincerely glad I did my readings for both Cherful24 and Saillie before reading this thread, as I have truly invested my best and purest energy into them. Don't regret doing them, but don't forsee myself exchanging with you in the future unfortunately.

Quite disappointed though I am grateful for your readings. Thank you Magikaal for your patience.


So why not mention you had all those problems rather than posting that I will get a reading soon, not even responding to cherful or M, and not replying to any comments afterwards?
It's not the matter of time...but the lack of response or even acknowledgement from 3 separate people inquiry about their readings.

Example. Admini-Even if she can't get to a reading, she makes sure she give s time that she is able to, and follows through.

I felt like you posted your comment late at night, and went to bed hoping to get answers in the am, rather than responding to those that were still awake at that time and wanted to do a reading for you.

If you had just truthfully posted that "hey, I need help with a reading but I'm sick and its going to take me a couple days to get back to you...we would all wait a couple days until you returned and were able to return the readings as promptly as we did.

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Saille
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posted August 02, 2016 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saille     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Do you really want a reading from someone who doesn't want to willingly give it? Would that not call into question the quality of said reading? But from here on out, anyone not honoring an agreed-upon exchange will be banned.

No I don't but I have no idea that is what the person is planning on doing though. I'm happy to do a reading with an exchange, but I'm pretty sure if someone wrote, "im unwilling to give a reading. after an exchange, "i'd totally bounce. I just thought the rules were, you returned a reading no matter what or aleast communicate in some format that it will be done, but mm not only ignore me, but 3 other readers, not even regarding readings, but what was going on. The only time she replied was after she read the reading we did for her, and then nothing else.

Anyway, thank you for clearing the air.

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cherful24
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posted August 02, 2016 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kinda reminds me of Venus. But anyway, I don't need to know ur story.It's just not cool to be taking energy from readers.
If u can ask for a reading about love, then looks like u do have energy. This health issue u now state, is the 3rd excuse I've seen u use. it's not that u choose to have bad intent that bothers me, it's that I don't want to waste my energy on someone who can't offer anything back. As for personally, I am still learning and honing in my skills, and it's bad energy like this drama that weakens my abilities.


quote:
Originally posted by melodiemelodie:
Thank you Randall for your common sense. I have been dealing with health issues and have had a few appointments for blood tests and have to follow a diet that makes me lethargic. I was so surprised to come here and see the hostility and anger after just two days.

I am sincerely glad I did my readings for both Cherful24 and Saillie before reading this thread, as I have truly invested my best and purest energy into them. Don't regret doing them, but don't forsee myself exchanging with you in the future unfortunately.

Quite disappointed though I am grateful for your readings. Thank you Magikaal for your patience.


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cherful24
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posted August 02, 2016 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Astro if you would like to make a comment it might help to actually know about the situation that you're commenting on which u don't. Nobody died like you mentioned in your previous comment. This person in question does not do generous readings so that comment u made doesn't apply either. If you happen to read her past responses than you know she chose not to do them because she was tired and wanted to go to bed at night because she posted late at night and then she was going to go to work the next day and couldn't do it then either and then chose not to do it again.

quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
But you will need to take into account people who are new to the site and who may not be aware of readers' circumstances. They may be rather too happy to exercise their right to ask for bans.

There are some really fantastic readers who have been hugely generous and giving with their time, but cannot be rushed because of home circumstances.


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melodiemelodie
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posted August 02, 2016 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for melodiemelodie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Saille:
So why not mention you had all those problems rather than posting that I will get a reading soon, not even responding to cherful or M, and not replying to any comments afterwards?
It's not the matter of time...but the lack of response or even acknowledgement from 3 separate people inquiry about their readings.

Example. Admini-Even if she can't get to a reading, she makes sure she give s time that she is able to, and follows through.

I felt like you posted your comment late at night, and went to bed hoping to get answers in the am, rather than responding to those that were still awake at that time and wanted to do a reading for you.

If you had just truthfully posted that "hey, I need help with a reading but I'm sick and its going to take me a couple days to get back to you...we would all wait a couple days until you returned and were able to return the readings as promptly as we did.


Saille, you don't seem to understand. I wasn't on this site for 2 days because of health issues that are chronic, and not predictable. Please stop speculating and trying to find excuses to make yourself look like a victim here. You wanted a reading and got a very detailed one two days later, what is the problem?


I don't want to nor do I need to give details surrounding the circumstances, but I would examine why this situation angers you so much. You are the one with the anger, not me. And I have more than honoured this exchange so please stop complaining and realize that you are the one making a big deal of something that shouldn't have been in the first place.

peace

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cherful24
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posted August 02, 2016 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trying to address a chronic problem on this site should not be so difficult. People are constantly leaving the site and it's always for the same reason which happens to be this reason. It's always give give give and very little balance of give-and-take with readers.

Ty Sallie for pushing this issue and I'm sorry that you're being met with push backs from others. I however totally agree with U.

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cherful24
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posted August 02, 2016 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's be clear about this and honest. One time you said that you were tired and going to bed and then the next time you said you were going to work and then you completely disappeared. Now ur stated anoter excuse.

That's not complete transparency on whether or not you're going to honor your exchanges. I know you haven't been on the site for a while but there's been a lot of problems with this in the past and people leave the Forum because of this


quote:
Originally posted by melodiemelodie:
Saille, you don't seem to understand. I wasn't on this site for 2 days because of health issues that are chronic, and not predictable. Please stop speculating and trying to find excuses to make yourself look like a victim here. You wanted a reading and got a very detailed one two days later, what is the problem?


I don't want to nor do I need to give details surrounding the circumstances, but I would examine why this situation angers you so much. You are the one with the anger, not me. And I have more than honoured this exchange so please stop complaining and realize that you are the one making a big deal of something that shouldn't have been in the first place.

peace


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melodiemelodie
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posted August 02, 2016 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for melodiemelodie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cherful24:
Kinda reminds me of Venus. But anyway, I don't need to know ur story.It's just not cool to be taking energy from readers.
If u can ask for a reading about love, then looks like u do have energy. This health issue u now state, is the 3rd excuse I've seen u use. it's not that u choose to have bad intent that bothers me, it's that I don't want to waste my energy on someone who can't offer anything back. As for personally, I am still learning and honing in my skills, and it's bad energy like this drama that weakens my abilities.



What do you mean third excuse? I have been having chronic health issues, I don't need to get into the details. You are the one spending energy over something so futile. You are the one who needs to work on patience and understanding. I really hope you will experience a situation similar to this so you get to see things from my perspective, and you understand how having all this chaos imposed on you feels like. That was completely unnecessary from your part.

peace,

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Astro keen
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posted August 02, 2016 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cherful,

There have been instances when someone couldn't respond because of circumstances beyond their control. It happened to me once, and I was horrified to be faced with aggression.

So my comment wasn't aimed at you or the circumstances here in particular. Rather I wanted to highlight that sometimes things are not as they seem.

The second comment was directed to Randall, just to alert him that there are some readers whom we would happily wait for (since we know them well), but newcomers might not know about and be inclined to ask for bans.

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melodiemelodie
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posted August 02, 2016 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for melodiemelodie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cherful24:
Let's be clear about this and honest. One time you said that you were tired and going to bed and then the next time you said you were going to work and then you completely disappeared. Now ur stated anoter excuse.

That's not complete transparency on whether or not you're going to honor your exchanges. I know you haven't been on the site for a while but there's been a lot of problems with this in the past and people leave the Forum because of this



Yes I did fall asleep, and yes I did do some work (I work from home at the moment) and then I spent some hours at the doctors and then more time at the clinic doing bloodwork and then more time sleeping. 2 days. And the readings I did were incredibly detailed and long. I don't understand what the problem is. What is concerning, is your reaction to all this and the way you blew it out of proportion. I really hope you find peace in your life.

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cherful24
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posted August 02, 2016 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Fall asleep. 2. Went to work 3. Health issues.

Not sure what u mean...what do I mean. Those are the 3 excuses I've seen u use. Looks like ur confirming that, so I'm not sure of ur argument.

QUOTE]Originally posted by melodiemelodie:
Yes I did fall asleep, and yes I did do some work (I work from home at the moment) and then I spent some hours at the doctors and then more time at the clinic doing bloodwork and then more time sleeping. 2 days. And the readings I did were incredibly detailed and long. I don't understand what the problem is. What is concerning, is your reaction to all this and the way you blew it out of proportion. I really hope you find peace in your life.[/QUOTE]

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cherful24
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posted August 02, 2016 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look. To be blunt. Your last several readings, you have made excuses to why you didn't exchange in a timely manner. You get your readings first and then say you can't Exchange. I agree with Sallie. To me this is an Integrity issue.


quote:
Originally posted by melodiemelodie:
What do you mean third excuse? I have been having chronic health issues, I don't need to get into the details. You are the one spending energy over something so futile. You are the one who needs to work on patience and understanding. I really hope you will experience a situation similar to this so you get to see things from my perspective, and you understand how having all this chaos imposed on you feels like. That was completely unnecessary from your part.

peace,


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