posted March 25, 2017 11:38 AM            

I checked out some spreads online and decided the simplest 4 card spread would maybe be ok for a complete noob like me. This is the one I used:

So, I shuffled the cards and dealt and this is what I ended up with:
http://i.imgur.com/Fa6AW1I.jpg

Pardon my tea tag! So sorry about that.

I didn't exactly ask a question outright but it's true that I did have a lot on my mind lately about a past relationship. I think I understood the first card but the second card has me stumped. It's what I'm supposed to not do but I can't find a lot of readings on the reversed card in that position.

posted March 25, 2017 02:40 PM            

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I didn't exactly ask a question outright but it's true that I did have a lot on my mind lately about a past relationship.

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I agree with athenaia about ignoring reversals at this stage but personally, I don't see the point of using them ever. I can totally do without them and you probably could too. Of course, it's up which camp you'll settle in. I don't think it would be a bad thing to experiment with them for a while, I did that myself if my memory isn't fooling me.

Ok, so the spread has something to do with your past relationship.

It deals with> Ace of Cups
A love matter, how surprising It's the first card in the suit which may be a hint at a new beginning, the possibility of it or hope for it.

Do this> 7 of Wands
Don't do this> 4 of Swords
To me this looks like a bold, almost aggressive pursuit of something vs inactivity/taking lots of time (too much time?) to think things through before proceeding.

It leads to> Emperor
It could be your ex him(?)self, read descriptions and see if they fit him. It might be even a referrence to his Sun sign or possibly to something else in his Big 3. The card is associated with Aries but I tend to perceive it as an Aries-Cap mix. A middle-aged Aries comes to my mind. Finally, there's a chance it's an indicator of something you'd consider a major victory (the result of your 7 of Wands efforts)/the emergence of something that won't be easy to destroy.

Is it me or are you entertaining the idea of round 2 with your ex or at least getting closer to him ? Does my interpretation make any sense?

posted March 26, 2017 01:29 AM            

While I did not recite a question in my head while pulling the cards, I guess the eternal question is wondering if we will ever cross paths again.

I did some searching on reversals of this card before I read your message, and I DID actually find something that made me go 'Yes!!' for the reversed of this card when I looked here:
http://janetboyer.typepad.com/blog/2012/11/4-of-swords-pema-chodron-and-steady-as-a-log-quotes-and-tarot-cards.html

This is about the only thing that has really made sense pertaining to the situation. Yes, I am "hooked" on this person and unable to let go.

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If you consider reversed Tarot cards, as I do, then the 4 of Swords, reversed can indicate being "hooked". Thus, this card upside down offers us a choice point where we can decide to just let it go and move on (given the 90 seconds has already passed, of course). Depending on what other cards surround it, the 4 of Swords reversed can indicate areas where we have chosen to fuel negative thoughts and emotions by extending a 90 second incident into days, weeks, months or even years.

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This is me to the T. Our real life experience was short in comparison to the years I've spent unable to let this person go emotionally and mentally. When I think I have put him past me I literally hear his name, see him, or he is mentioned again, like the world is tormenting me.

If I turn this card upright, in a "do not do" position it would indicate this, according to this article:
http://janetboyer.typepad.com/blog/2011/01/4-of-swords-and-painful-thoughts.html

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In numerology, the number 4 indicates stability, foundation and boundaries. Coupled with the Swords suit of the mental realm (which includes communication, thoughts and assumptions), the 4 suggests mental rest and recuperation. The 4 brings quiet and calm to our head space. It’s quiet here—a bit like the atmosphere around the sarcophagus we tend to see in Rider-Waite styled versions of this card.

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If I stretch my brain to reconcile this with "do not do," I'm guessing it could assume that I should actually not rest within my own thoughts on the matter, which actually ends up similarly to interpreting the reversed card?

Right now I think I've deduced that this card in that position means I need to stop relishing in my own mental turmoil. What do you think?

@Iridia

Yes, I definitely can feel that 7 of Wands is an go out and do card while 4 of Swords is a stay home and think card! Which is exactly what I've been doing...

Ok, so, in regards to the Emperor, I pull this card when I'm thinking about this person pretty much always. I was recently involved with an Aries and so I thought this card pointed me to my new guy, but that relationship ended, and the truth was I was thinking about this guy every time I pulled that card.

I have picked at this card for a couple hours now. I don't know why it comes up SO often with the same guy but it must mean something. He doesn't have planets in Aries, he is a Cap though so there's some consistency there.

We have a lot of distance right now, not physically but emotionally and mentally. Venus Rx has me thinking of him, but not necessarily entertaining an active plan to reconcile. I feel that as time goes on, every time the wound gets reopened between us it tends to heal up a little quicker than the last.

I got a professional reading on this relationship a while back and my reader told me this relationship was absolutely never going to happen, that my end was filled with fantasy and he wanted to move on. For that reason, I'm hesitant to expect positive readings in regards to this relationship. The universe seems to be against it. I asked in horary as well and the reader indicated that he could have someone else at the present time, romantically. With everything stacked against me I see in this reading with 7 of Wands in the "do this" position that I should stand my ground somehow, but I'm simply worried that I'm feeding into something unhealthy. Perhaps it is my fault for not having a question in mind..that the answer is equally unclear.

posted March 26, 2017 07:55 AM            

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Ok, so, in regards to the Emperor, I pull this card when I'm thinking about this person pretty much always. I was recently involved with an Aries and so I thought this card pointed me to my new guy, but that relationship ended, and the truth was I was thinking about this guy every time I pulled that card.

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With everything stacked against me I see in this reading with 7 of Wands in the "do this" position that I should stand my ground somehow, but I'm simply worried that I'm feeding into something unhealthy. Perhaps it is my fault for not having a question in mind..that the answer is equally unclear.

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As for Emperor in the outcome, I'm stumped somewhat. I saw this position online to have good and bad interpretations....I need to look deeper I think.

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posted March 26, 2017 10:05 PM            

I am not sure if the card represents him. It usually is in an "outcome" position or is the answer of a yes or no.

I shuffled the cards really well and I drew 7 of Wands again today. It seems to be a card that's calling for my attention.

posted March 28, 2017 04:42 AM            

She did a professional spread for me and my ex first. No way, no how, never going to happen in this lifetime. She said on his side he has moved on and is never going to return to me emotionally, and my side is full of persistent fantasy. Well, that hurts. She was EXTREMELY fatalistic about the "NOPE" she got from the reading, unusual of her, and told me that I need to get off the path of the baseless feelings ASAP or have their emptiness realized in my face to my public embarrassment. The outcome of what will come to pass if I do not change course was 4 of wands reversed with 9 of swords reversed as a clarifier.

Ok, so, I need to let go. Venus Rx is in Aries. When I consulted her, it was at 5 deg opposing my Sun/Mars and Square my Saturn/Neptune. Venus Rx calls us to cleanse the past out of our love lives, and its current aspects to my chart is likely to mean that separation of past love will be realized. So, I can accept the process of starting to accept that. After lots of sad music and forcing myself to eject him from my idle thoughts I will get through it.

This spread was interpreted to me as advice for finding actual love that is based on a good solid foundation and empowers the individuals involved. Reversed 4 of Swords is me, what I've been doing, and what is keeping me from the outcome. Seven of Wands has been a repeat card for me. When I pulled a card while essentially asking if he still loved me at all (in a moment of weakness), I got this card Rx. Yikes. And, she got the Emperor reversed as an outcome of her spread for our relationship. No control, heart over head, and only having myself to blame for fettering away my power in baseless fantasies.

As it is in this position, I think Seven of Wands is the key for me right now. I have been reading and re-reading on this card to get it in my head. I definitely now do not see the Emperor as my ex. I see it as a place where I need to get to myself, being in control of my emotions and not letting fantasies that will not come to pass direct my life. When I pulled this card in the past while thinking of him, it was telling me where I need to be, perhaps where he is now.

I thought I would share my results here for everyone's reference. I feel like I especially understand the 4 of Swords Rx now. In my spread, the upright interpretation in "do not do" certainly does tell me don't rest here, don't stay where you are and become complacent with this set of thoughts. This is the card that told me to shake the bottle and stir up all the thought sediment I've been letting collect for years. So I did. On the bright side, I finally start the process of letting go of someone who has moved on from me mentally, emotionally, metaphysically.

posted April 10, 2017 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Wow, that's really intense Wal. In my opinion.. energies are always subjected to change, and your reader (and your spread itself) just picked up on the energy *of the moment*. Things (especially feelings) are never static in life. I will second your observation about it being Venus RX currently and it'll probably be best to revisit the questions you want the cards to answer until mid-May.

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