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Valmu83
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posted December 16, 2017 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi would you like to exchange?

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Spica
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posted December 16, 2017 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah sure! Let me know your Q. I will let you know mine later, right now I don't have any particular question in mind.

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Valmu83
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posted December 16, 2017 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think there is a woman who is talking bad things about me behind my back to my boss who I also have feelings. I decided to do something about it and I tried to soften her up. I don't know if it was enough to stop her. So my question is: is she still trashing me behind my back?

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posted December 16, 2017 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The answer is no, because her (Jupiter) is neither making an aspect with Mercury (you), which is also the ruler of the 12th house (which means things happening behind your back without your knowledge and secret enemies).

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posted December 16, 2017 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My question; what is my situation with those I live in the house with in Estonia? What relationship do I have with them/or that person? What do I think/feel towards them?

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posted December 18, 2017 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump

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Valmu83
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posted December 19, 2017 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Spica:
My question; what is my situation with those I live in the house with in Estonia? What relationship do I have with them/or that person? What do I think/feel towards them?

Thank you! But what about her being in my 3dt house?

You had several questions so I answered only the first one. It's too much to try answer all of them by pulling one thread.

What is my situation with those I live in the house with in Estonia?

Book, house, ring

Seems that they will treat you like a family member. Or at least interaction will be very warm and not complicated. Ring and book together can be also about secret relationship..but if this does not ring a bell it's more likely about the underlying connection what you have with these people. Almost as if you already have some history with them or some other link. Hope this make sense to you!

House + Ring

Shared home. Kinship. To be comfortable with making commitments. To agree to a plan; to stick with a plan. Attachment to home(country), family, traditions, habits. Familiar cause. Safe connections.

House + Book
Family history. Something only family members know.

Ring + Book
Knowledge about cause and effect, or about where and how things link, connect. Facts about a relationship.

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posted December 19, 2017 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her being in your 3rd house doesn't mean she's talking about you behind your back. It was a yes or no question, and the horary chart clearly showed no. No aspects between you two or any third planet joining your rulers either (which would have been your boss int his case). 3rd house represent local area, driving, messages, letters, neighbours, siblings, relatives and cousins. Horary has specific set of rules to read it it's not just like you can assume whatever, it's not read like a natal chart.

I didn't ask 3 different questions. I was just elaborating the same question. I waited 3 days for your reply by the way.

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posted December 19, 2017 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes sorry for delay. I don't have time to be in the internet so often. Normally I'm here once a day but now I didn't have so long time period that I could have written answer to you. In horary charts third house is also communication and rumors so with malefic there it can suggests communication problems or mental incompatibility. But good to know it's not so.

For me there was too many different things to concentrate in your question. The overall situation, your relationship with them and your feelings but never mind.

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posted December 19, 2017 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3rd house in horary has nothing to do with rumours. You're mixing modern psychological astrology with horary. The horary and its rules are from traditional astrology.

Anyways thank you I'll get a proper reading from elsewhere have a nice day bye. x

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posted December 19, 2017 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha okay..no need to be rude that info is from professional horary astrologers from actual horary forum. Update your info about horary for example from here: http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h3.html

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posted December 19, 2017 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I think the reading I gave you was proper no need to try to insult me if you are not happy with it my answer was totally related to,your question. Cards also showed that and I already asked last time you to be more specific with your questions. I wish you well sincerely.

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posted December 19, 2017 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You were talking about her speaking behind your back, that doesn't mean 3rd house. This means 12th house, which is things happening behind your back without your knowledge and secret enemies. Rumours means things that are being told to you and things you know. If yours and her significators don't aspect each other then it means no. Anyways, next time you can just do your readings by horary yourself, since you're such an expert at it.

All I got from your reading was that they treat me like family. Other than that it was really vague.

I wasn't being rude. Ironically it was you. If you already think you know how to read the chart and know the answer why are you doubting me and trying to prove me wrong despite that I explained you thoroughly twice. I always explain how I read the chart, never treated anyone like they're stupid.

Your stretch out the same concept using different words in your reading. Now if you want me to be honest; yes I was disappointed by your reading, but that's fine but I thought it was inconsiderate when you made me wait that long, you could have compensated by doing a little better reading.

I don't wanna argue more how about if we don't like each other's reading let's just not exchange next time. I don't like to create enmities for little reasons. Bye. x

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posted December 19, 2017 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I know some horary. I'm interested about it and in learning process. And I wasn't try to prove you wrong. I already understood (and believed you) that there were no connection between significators. I just wanted to ask about her being in 3dt house of communication as it seemed relevant to the question. As Moon past aspects could have been showing her actions in the past If just asking about it and asking you to check a link makes you feel defensive and stupid I'm sorry for making you feel like that

Again I'm sorry for delay. However it's not uncommon here and it's festive time. And for me that's not anyway necessarily reason to give you or anyone multiple reading for compensation. Maybe..if I would not have done that already many times for you (just for being nice) and if the reading you provided me would have been more than 1 and half line And yes from the cards I got for you there was nothing else to tell you. Sometimes it goes like that.

For saying you go to get "proper" reading somewhere else is rude to me. Wishing me nice day and "bye", that's just passive aggressive Sorry if you feel that way. We don't have to exchange again

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posted December 19, 2017 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are repeating the same things I already explained and answered to. When it comes to a yes or no question it's not about house but it is important for the significators to aspect! Your boss (10th house and you 1sst house) ruler is Mercury making no aspect to Jupiter (her). There is no reason to look at anything else. Besides I just told you that your concern of her talking behind your back was about the 12th house, it doesn't count as a 3rd house concern.

And thank you for confirming the reason why you gave me a small and vague reading by purpose. So I have to repeat again... you asked me a YES OR NO question, what do you expect? Isn't it common sense? If you asked me more questions I would have looked into it but you just asked if she is still talking behind your back or not. My answer was according to your question what else could I have written or said more than that? I didn't even need to explain you why it was no, but I did it out of respect. I told you why and how the answer was no. Tell me, even if her significators being in your third house means yes, how and why does that mean 'yes'? It doesn't mean anything unless your significators aspect. And I already explained and answered why things happening behind your back, even if it's rumours about you is not your 3rd house but 12th house. Anything happening behind your back about you without your knowledge and secret enemies fall in the 12th house. Rumours are topics that are generally spread across in society or a place, it's not hidden from you or about you. Besides, open rumours about YOU is not even the 3rd house, it's your 10th house of reputation.

Please do not tell me how horary works unless you read john frawley and william Lilly's books on horary. Just because you read one thing online that's not enough to know how horary works.

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posted December 19, 2017 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I answered your question but you barely answered mine. There's nothing rude about saying I'd rather get a proper reading. You yourself admitted you gave me an inadequate reading. Talk about passive aggressive.

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posted December 20, 2017 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay no point to keep this conversation going this is uncanny. I don't wonder anymore why people here don't want to exchange with you. There is nothing respectful in your behavior.

I didn't just read one thing from interned as I already explained to you. And Lily is also familiar to me. Thank you for assuming someone interested in horary doesn't know those writers. Anyway this knowledge was from professional horary readers that I actually know personally. That link was only to you see it somewhere by yourself.

Also, as I in my every answer pointed out, I already know what it means when there is no aspect between significators. No point to repeat the same things again as you don't understand even what I'm talking about. It was 12th ruler at its third house not mine. My question about it was not a try to make it yes answer. Something you completely missed? Really weird.

And I will keep asking horary readings.. as I don't know everything..but obviously so don't you.

My answer to you was not vague. And I didn't "admitted" anything. It was my kind way to say your question was perhaps vague. Again. Thank you for twisting my words and meanings. I don't feel need to be polite anymore. It was my mistake . Bye!

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posted December 20, 2017 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're shameless and stubborn. I don't want or need your nice and polite exterior. And you don't make sense or replied to what I actually said, which proves the truth and you are too egoistical to admit you were wrong. Completely wasting my time. I am glad I saw this side of you. I do not want to deal with you again. I felt like I wasted my time and intelligence especially also having to repeat the same thing because you kept ignoring what I said and coming up with new excuses for why my reading was wrong. I thought you genuinely weren't getting it but in fact you're actually really ashamed to admit your fault and wasting my time. I didn't do anything wrong or insulted you. I have the right to let you know how I felt about your reading, so I said it that it was inadequate. I am honest and open, not fake or overly nice on the exterior. I am proud to be this way to be genuine and sincere. You can take it or leave it.

Everytime I explained to you you ignored all my points completely throughout this, very inconsiderate. If you were interested in horary you could have asked me why I did the reading the way I did instead of trying to make out faults in my reading. I wasted my time treating you like someone who is sane and genuine. You took advantage of my kindness and patience because of your stubborn ego. I genuinely explained to you everything you were doubting, you act like you never read that and simply kept repeating the same thing like a record machine.

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posted December 20, 2017 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha I'm not ashamed. I just own basic manners when operating in forums. You seem not to have those. Blaming me in everything you cook up along the way. Naming me. I have said many times I'm sorry that you don't like my reading. (And it is just one reading!) It's even unclear are you talking about that or your own reading that you are so sensitive about.

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posted December 20, 2017 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my god Have to answer to you edited answer. How is my "ego" working here? I think it's somebody else's ego who is talking now here I have tried to explain you something you keep missing in every turn. In every answer I told I'm not trying undermine you. You seem to be too proud to learn anything new about horary.

About the "record machine" I feel same about you

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posted December 20, 2017 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You reply to some things and completely ignore the other things I write. If you are brave reply to everything like a sincere person or you are not worth my time sorry. Goodbye.

You didn't say anything that taught me anything new about horary. You were wrong about it and I was correcting you, dear.

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posted December 20, 2017 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I answered everything (hopefully) to the point I said I don't want to be in this conversation anymore.

Edit: Because I can see you are angry. It's no point to answer to that kind of text. It's not making world better

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posted December 20, 2017 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you want dialogue it's not good idea to call other part shameless etc. They don't want to talk with you but well maybe you learn at some point everything good to you. Go in peace.

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posted December 20, 2017 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope you reflect on yourself when you're alone.

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posted December 20, 2017 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Same to you i think you think differently when you look at this thread without emotional outburst happy times to you.

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