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visions
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posted May 18, 2018 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello,

i try to get as many option i can get for next year in the professionnal field.

as it's the application campaign period for following academic program right now in my country, i am trying to know all the best option for me and i will apply then i will choose according to the approval i will get from all the applications i done.

so i have 5 options :

1) stay in my field psychology and apply master degree
2)go for a philosophy phd
3)go for a theology phd
4)go for psychoanalysis phd
5) psychotherapist program

what is the best option for me ? what will work best ?

psychology is very good because it's very easy to find easily a work afterwards but it's highly selective, very hard and competition between students are unhealthy and ruthless.

i love also philosophy but job outlets are just miserable unless you choose to teach. So i don't want to be unemployed after 3 to 6 years of a phd status to nothing again

i like also theology but it's the same problem, if you don't teach or don't preach there is no outlet.

the psychoanalysis phd could lead me to liberal profession as well as the psychotherapist program but there is few university teaching this program and i have been ghosted from one.

i can get a 6) or 7) solution next year : family counselor program or public trustee but they are a downgrade of my intellectual profile and lead to a less shiny status.

pls help it's BIG time of choice for me as i am aging and want to find the best option for me for my future!!!

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Emsie
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posted May 18, 2018 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi visions, I pulled some cards for you as I have Life purpose oracle cards.

Energy healing - Options - Artist - Nutrition

Underline cards: Bodywork - Family - Leadership - Writing

I'd say you'd do best with choosing something regarding psychology, like kinesiology - if you're interested in ways that are considered perhaps more holistic. The family counseling is also a good idea to be considered, and something regarding art, or philosophy, or liberal arts - they might lead you to a leader position later in your life. And a training which involves both nutrition and counseling, like a lifestyle counselor, or something like this.

I'd only exclude theology, and "raw psychology". I hope I could help a little to gain more insight. :3

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visions
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posted May 18, 2018 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey thank you a lot emsie!!!
i didn't know this oracle i will check it later.

now i am hesitating between insisting on psychology and specialize in family therapy maybe like the Palo Alto school otherwise philosophy phd or familiy counselour.

philosophy phd would be great but i love early centuries philosophy and you have to know greek and latin very well to do something good, i know some greek but i have to improve my skills, sure i don't have the level for phd. But if i choose a modern thesis subject it may run fine.

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mirage29
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posted May 18, 2018 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You'll be coming up on your midlife transits.
Right now your chart's grand trine in water is being very supported.

If you were to pursue the training for psychoanalysis, I believe that your OWN psychoanalysis would be involved with it.

In the next years it would not just bless and benefit you, but benefit your clients in the long run, should you go the psychoanalysis route.

There is a 'anti-religion' climate right now. I think that if you want to include religion with your studies, this would be very grounding and beneficial to you and your clients in coming years.

People are trying to 'throw Jesus under the bus' right now, and saying that he doesn't belong to the new age.

There could be a surprise revival in spirituality (inclusive religions w/ Jesus) in the future, as we have the Pluto Neptune and Uranus Sag generations growing into positions of social influence.

You will be able to serve this particular generation, with sensitivity and Knowledge.

Some of these too, are 'off-balance' .. and will need your assistance.

Since you are interested in philosophies (H9 Moon) and religion, have you had any mystical experiences?

Since there MIGHT be a scheduled Awakening in Consciousness, IF you are interested in Higher Consciousness and spirituality, you might want to include studies on the various 'awakening' symptoms, and the types of altered consciousness that can happen during those times.

If you study Jung's diary (Redbook?), you'll read how HE went through altered-states during his own life. They can mimic psychosis.

There's a doc named Farmer who has a following. He helps mentally-ill folks who are schizophrenics. WITHIN his work, he had found clients with spiritual experiences. Sometimes it takes MUCH discernment to tell the difference between someone in psychosis (Uranus opp Uranus can destabilize some), and someone having kundalini experiences.

Of course, I am PARTIAL to astrology studies.
Jung himself BROUGHT astrology into his practice, and was able to save months of analysis/therapy for his clients, by looking at their chart aspects.

If you are still in Europe, there are astrology schools that incorporate psychology and therapy? You might wish to take some of their courses.


You have Jupiter Cancer at 29+ ...
That's also known as the Millionaire's degree. So LUCKY!!!!

You have that trine to your Mercury-Mars Pisces. Truly, an analyzer's aspect?

Then, you ALSO have those both trine to your Uranus Scorpio in the THIRD HOUSE ... Genius.

I just "like" your chart a whole lot.

You have your Venus opp Saturn-rx --
I have that one. That's rough emotionally, AND is very awesome at the same time. It can take you down into the deepest places (you have Saturn-rx in your 12th... but in Virgo!!!

Your Venus is Pisces ... how Blessed.

I don't know you, but you've got a great chart for the things you've demonstrated interest in.

Really.... Your chart is VERY supported.
You also are having heaven smile down on you right now. Great transits.

If you'd like me to leave links to various things I've mentioned, I'd be glad to.

Let me know.

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visions
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posted May 18, 2018 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey mirage, thank you for your support trhough reading my chart.

you are right, right now religion is really in a bad state looking at religion linked with extremism and terrorism and also scandal like the Chili one at the moment.

my religion interest are very focused on what we call early christian centuries philosophy also know as patristic writings which is very very awesome from a healing point of view, i am convinced that a lot of this forgotten writings could help to heal some addiction or violence behaviour and also depressed people or melancholy, so as you can see it covers a great range of mental disorder.

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mirage29
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posted May 18, 2018 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow ... You are Catholic?

tPluto has entered your 5th House.

I have seen Pluto in 5th in people's chart as having a powerful influence socially in the lives of youth and children. (especially when it moves deeper into the 5th)

You have your Jupiter in the 11th.
This is powerful in attracting support for your social networking efforts.

Very much agree with there being problems with extremist religions. There are parents raising up their children in isolative religion cults.

These will need much assistance, when/if they come to independent ages and encounter the world.

Have you earned your master's degree yet?
How much of an interest do you have in astrology?


Can you sum up your hypothesis about how these can heal the addictions and disorders?

hmmm. Going within.
If you prefer not to share your hypothesis, that's okay.

Wishing you the Best!

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visions
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posted May 18, 2018 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am not catholic.
i have a master degree in psychoanalysis but if you want to work in hospital institution you have to get the psychology master degree. Psychology and psychonalysis in france are more and more divided in the academic and professionnal field, the psychology is considered more scientific whereas psychoanlysis more philosophic and all the job offers goes right now to neuropsychologist they get any job any times they want but paradoxically if the master degree can open the doors, actually once you are working, you are just seeing all psychiatrist and everyone refering to psychonalysis theory...all psychiatrist just refer to freud and lacan, very few are kleinian in france you'll find more in london.

i am into astrology for long time but i am cautious with astrology, looking only what's the trends with transit and rs with distance. i think all my doubt and block come from saturn square sun transit and this **** neptune sqaure MC and now sitting on my DC which make me remind everyday to stay focus and concrete.

it will take a lot of time to explain how it works, it's complex. You have for example Marcus eremita who found a way to work over your imagination in order to not be seduced by bad things(like drugs) triggering desire and how desire about bad things can lead you to point of no return, this process was even better described by Dorothea of gaza it talks about akmalosia in greek which mean "babylon captivity" when you are stuck in bad behaviour and have bad habids spreading into your soul at the point you become inconscious about your own vice and disorder or symptom. you have to wait freud in 1926 in Inhibitions, symptoms and anxiety to define in a psychology way this process but early roman and greek philosophy saw that thanks to Seneca and Cicero,btw Michel foucault sum up all of this story but he didn't talk about dorothea of gaza who goes further than greek and roman philosopher. The most kick ass christian author is Evagrius who built a whole dynamic process between affect and find ways to counter all vice by following counter-attitude, he is a f*** genius. he lives 16 years in the desert alone tthanks to his theory. So you can see that patristic writings can also lead also to outstanding performance in showing stamina against adversity. you have plenty others who elaborated very interesting concept like-minded (Philoxenus of Mabbug, John cassian etc...)

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mirage29
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posted May 18, 2018 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember reading how laypersons used to be allowed to be certified to conduct psychoanalysis. You didn't need to have a doctorate. (I live in the US.)

In the USA it became more popular to get a shortcut 'counseling' degree for masters-doctorate PsyD instead of a full scientific psychology degree PhD, and adding counseling.

I've noticed too, in the past decade or more, a push towards brain-science(neuro)-- They want to focus things more 'mentally' and 'chemically' rather than working with a person's emotional, inspirationally-imaginative, and spirituality realms.

Plato's Neptunian metaphysical cave! LOL.
Versus Aristotle's more saturnian limited viewpoint, void of Higher Understanding and the acknowledgment of the spiritual realms (outer planets, beyond saturn)??
(If I'm remembering this correctly??? please forgive.)

Your description reminded me of diets to lose weight (for example).
It's better to choose images (more positive) of what healthy-alternatives you CAN eat, as opposed to holding images of calorie rich chocolate devil's-food cake with delicious fudge frosting and telling yourself you are punished and need to deny yourself this (more negative).

With recent work in addictions, they have proven that when a person acknowledges a Higher Power (outside of themselves), and combines it with inner submission, then they have a better chance of survival and success. That would involve engaging the Neptunian (faith, future sucess) realms rather than the work of sheer Will (Saturn, punished for being 'bad' and being an addict).

But/and, it will be a blessing if they can solve some of that by understanding the neurology, of COURSE. (People definitely suffer harshly.)

Believing in an Ideal, versus hardcore mental reality ? ---

Smiling. There's an astrologer who sometimes says,
"Too much reality (Saturn), can kill you."

With Neptune to move through your 7th, I've read that its a time where you might not know 'who' your true supporters really are. Difficulties expressing yourself and being understood.

Make sure that after Neptune turns retro for a while, that you have securely set up all the trusted lawyers, counselors, and advisors that you will need in order to guide you further in your future plans.
{ref. R.Hand, Planets in Transit}
If you own that book?.. it's such a blessing.
Even "just reading it" without knowing aspects, there is great counsel in it.

I've just been through some Neptune squares myself, over the past 5 years+? .. to the Asc, and to my Sun. In the future, it will touch my Mercury Gem.
(Neptune still in my (3)rd for a number of more years?? I plan to view that as 'creatively' as I can-- LOL)

It can definitely blind you, present you with confusing information.

I have a strong 'intellectual' and philosophical chart.
{Sag rising JupiterCancer8th, Sun Mercury Gemini, Virgo Moon in the 9th.)

What I learned is the use my water planets and houses, in order to balance that crispy-intellect, with going 'within' and using what you 'feel' as a guide.

It increased my use of faith, and brought me stronger into The Ideal, the Heart.

I certainly admire you for your ambitious projects and for working to help others.

(I'm coming into my mid-60s now. I've lived a LOT of life, have seen a lot things, have pursued intellectual interests, And the spiritual, like a blood thirsty hound!!
.. One of my majors in college was psychology, and I had an invitation extended to study philosophy (religion) for higher degree-- they offered me a teaching fellowship.
Unfortunately, life continued to have other plans, and I had to drop my education.)

I'll be interested in seeing what you choose, and how that works out for you.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and life path here.
It helps us learn.

{{I deal with a lot of interference in my home atmosphere here. I hope that what I said to you today will make sense??? oh sheesh! LOL}}

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posted May 24, 2018 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, mirage.

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posted May 28, 2018 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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