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Topic: Disaster written in Natal Chart?
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bam201 Newflake Posts: 8 From: Registered: May 2018
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posted May 23, 2018 04:11 AM
Hi guys, I recently got into astrology bc I’ve kind of hit rock bottom in my life and turned to it for answers though I’m a newbie to astrology, I have a loose understanding of aspects and characteristic of planets. Maybe if you are interested, take a look at my chart. What can you see from my chart and can you spot disaster?My story is in 2016 I just gave up on life completely. I moved from nyc to my parents upstate and been there ever since. From 2009 to about 2015 I was in the city struggling on my own, trying to make things work but anything that could go wrong went wrong. Late 2009 I had a big breakup with a guy, it hurt, we were together for 3 yrs. To forget about him I went abroad to get some dental work done. I know that’s random, but I’ve always had problems with my teeth and needed to get crowns done so my parents convinced me it was a good idea that in the summer I’d get the work done by a relative abroad. Total mistake, ruined my health bc when I got there they did too much work and messed up my jaw. When I got back I didn’t know if I was still emotionally drained bc of the breakup or it was my health. Long story short w the dental work, it created a lot of complication w my jaw and sinus and after a few years another dr was telling me I had cancerous growth. During that time I had lost a lot of friends, my face was wrecked from the dental work. I couldn’t find a job, noticed people treating me different all the time. Felt so judged. I didn’t try to pursue any real relationships and that lead me to meeting strange ppl who had problems themselves and would say the most hurtful things to me in their own moments of low self esteem. I really felt so misunderstood/ judged and so discouraged and kept wondering why? Why did all of this happen almost at once for me and it was so much I couldn’t fix it. And whats weird is that before all this, I almost had a premonition that my life was going to get wrecked. Is that weird to say? My life went from partying in the city, working, to a bad break up, unemployed and what felt like someone throwing me in the dryer for 5 yrs. I also decided to go to grad school at that time and barely finished. I left the city once my program was over. I’ve really had to come to terms with how I make meaning in my life and who I let in. Most of the disappoints in my life come from my relationship with other people, I’ve seen how quick they are to turn their backs when something goes wrong. It’s in my nature to be there for someone if they are going through something, I just never thought that the same people would just walk away when I had trouble. It just caused a chasm in my life, I feel so discouraged. I was also reading about having sun conjunct neptune and it almost hit me that I was just floating around in denial or indecision after the dental work situation , instead of immediately getting the work redone I waited two and half years to get it fixed and it was a long ongoing process that I had to get twice. And I couldn’t even remember what I used to look like before the work, it was such a struggle. Also realized people see me as they want and I am not usually what they think I am which is horrible for relationships of any kind because they always start of wrong. I could go on, but if anyone is interested take a look at my chart. What can you see from it, and was disaster written in? I think I’m one to believe in fatal degrees in astrology tbh now. [img]https://imgur.com/p70lWKH[/img] IP: Logged |
bam201 Newflake Posts: 8 From: Registered: May 2018
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posted May 23, 2018 06:32 PM
tldr version: My life turned upside down for 7 yrs starting w a bad breakup, unemployment, health problems, friends turning their backs. What can you tell by looking at my chart? Or by transits. I feel like a lot happened to me all at once and I'm discouraged by what I saw. Thanx if you are reading this...ASC: 11 sag sun: 24 sag moon: 12 aries merc: 16 sag venus: 27 scorp mars: 18 cap jup: 8 libra saturn: 8 libra Uranus: 27 scorp neptune: 22 sag pluto: 23 libra heres the link to my chart ---> https://imgur.com/p70lWKH
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LunaIscariot Knowflake Posts: 1550 From: Canada Registered: Aug 2014
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posted May 23, 2018 07:14 PM
I’m sorry this happened to you, sending you best wishes 😇I think transit Saturn and Pluto was probably involved IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 10094 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted May 23, 2018 09:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by bam201: heres the link to my chart ---> https://imgur.com/p70lWKH[/B]
Welcome to LL, Bam201!! So Glad that you are here. What a POWERFUL story. ….{{ }} Thank you for sharing yourself with us. When you post links at Lindaland, in order for some links to work properly, you need to use the 'edit' feature, go in, and delete the letter 's' from http. It will activate the link, unless you know the way to do it using https. Bam201's chart. http://imgur.com/p70lWKH Let me try the img codes. IP: Logged |
bam201 Newflake Posts: 8 From: Registered: May 2018
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posted May 23, 2018 09:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by LunaIscariot: I’m sorry this happened to you, sending you best wishes 😇I think transit Saturn and Pluto was probably involved
Hi Lunalscariot, I caught your reply before it was edited. Thank you so much for the insight. You were right about 2015, that yr got so bad that I decided to leave nyc. It was also the time I had learned of the cancer diagnosis. The dental work started in summer of 2010 and it was a long process to get it completely fixed. By 2015 I had gone to another specialist bc one side was causing problems, so much so that side of my face had sunk in. I looked really different. It was also the time two close friends I had left, left me. I will read up on pluto and saturn transits and the t square you mentioned, much much love. IP: Logged |
bam201 Newflake Posts: 8 From: Registered: May 2018
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posted May 23, 2018 09:58 PM
Hi mirage29! thanx for letting me know about the links I will try it.IP: Logged |
LunaIscariot Knowflake Posts: 1550 From: Canada Registered: Aug 2014
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posted May 23, 2018 10:15 PM
Oh lol yes I edited because I didn’t realize you said it started in 2009! Lol and I had written it with the perspective that it was 2015 etc. But yeah, check Pluto and Saturn, they are the major players when it comes to tough events or changes in our lives. Also check progressions! IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 10094 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted May 24, 2018 01:03 PM
^ She had begun her 1st Saturn-Libra Return.Your Saturn is conjunct JUPITER which amplified everything, like steroids. AND... coincidently enough???? *bheart* You 'just happen' to have asteroid 2031 BAM in Libra conjunct your JUPITER! Pouring some lighter-fuel on a blaze? Terrifying moment man is engulfed in flames as he adds fuel to BBQ (Daily Mail, April 2018) [0:32] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUtk1B119-0 - http://markandrewholmes.com/bam.html "Astrologically, BAM seems to signify explosions, having to do with explosives or bombs, explosive or sudden events, things or ideas that are exploded." This CAN apply to GOOD things happening for you in later decades in your life. Gotta be 'positioned' so that BAM-Jupiter can work BEST "for" you. Jupiter in the 10th is a Good Placement for supporting you in public life, and your vocation. {I'm having challenges with the new updates that were recently forced onto this computer, with edge and window10. Now having greater difficulty with 'formatting' my materials. It won't let me just TYPE!!!! dernit. Sorry for recent copious edits, and any adjustments. grrrrr LOL}
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 5805 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 24, 2018 03:13 PM
Usually it is stelliums- planets in same sign and in close degrees to each other i.e Sun 29,Moon 23,Merc 26, Mars 27,Uranus 24 all in Sag that have a "domino" effect when transits hit one planet.The other possibility is that there is a natal Grand cross i.e signs in the same modality example Jup 5 Lib,Nep 8 Cap, Mar 10 Ari and Mc in Can 12. The transit of one planet squares,opposes and makes a conjunction to another has a domino effect. It can feel like your life is literally falling apart. I have a triple conjunction of Sag Sun,Sag Nep and Sag Jupiter. Jupiter trines Asc which is part of a grand cross Mars Lib, Merc Cap,Moo Can. When a transit affects the Sag planet, it has a domino effect. In your chart I see Asc, Merc and Sun are conjunct in Sag. You also have a natal T square of Jup/Saturn in Lib opp Moon in Aries square Mars in Cap and Pluto Lib. Moon trines your Asc and joins the Sag triple conjunction with the active T square So when a transit happens to affect the Sag or cardinal T-square, its a domino effect. Things can feel like they are falling apart "all at once". IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 3454 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 24, 2018 03:23 PM
A good astrologer won't look for disaster or anything dire, but sees the chart as a signature, a collection of tendencies that also show windows of opportunity as the planets move over (transit) those natal (birth) chart positions. Even negative or stressful transits, for example, are windows of opportunity to build strength and experience adversity so that we can become more aware.I too had major dental work done (oral surgery to remove all four wisdom teeth) in 1994 and my health has never been the same since. It has required me to totally change my expectations and actually led me into astrology and natural medicine, which are my vocations and passions. As to transits to your chart ... The period of your breakup in late 2009 was characterized at least partly by Neptune's transit square your natal Venus. That is a time that can mean working towards an ideal relationship, or experiencing disappointment and disillusionment. It really depends on how you handle the Neptune (stress) to Venus dyanmic. I met my wife and started a relationship during that transit after a long period of loneliness. That period also had Saturn in transit parallel your natal Moon at about 1° north declination. Declinations are the positions of the planets north and south of the celestial equator. The sky is not flat, and the planets do not orbit along the popularly misconceived 'plane'. They move north and south like a wave while they are moving eastward in their direction motion through the zodiac. About 2012-17 you experienced the emotionally challenging transit of Pluto square natal Moon. That alone is tough, but Pluto at 19S15 declination was also parallel natal Uranus [19S24]. That can be a time of drastic change, personal revolution. Astrology can be about learning to navigate the planetary energies so that you can consciously develop as a soul. It need not contribute to any black and white thinking of good factors vs bad factors, nor create anticipation anxiety. Some factors are stressful and can be difficult to handle, but you can learn through them, or at least from them in retrospect. If you are curious, I am happy to elaborate further on the transits I have mentioned. ------------------ "Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Declinations: because the planets move north and south of the celestial equator IP: Logged |
bam201 Newflake Posts: 8 From: Registered: May 2018
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posted May 24, 2018 08:48 PM
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"Astrologically, BAM seems to signify explosions, having to do with explosives or bombs, explosive or sudden events, things or ideas that are exploded."This CAN apply to GOOD things happening for you in later decades in your life. Gotta be 'positioned' so that BAM-Jupiter can work BEST "for" you. Jupiter in the 10th is a Good Placement for supporting you in public life, and your vocation.
I have to look into this and its called bam!? I use the word bam in all my usernames lol. Yea! I have libra in my 10th house. I lean towards innovation in my field, in academia I was supported however I doubt myself a lot and am indecisive and it has caused my career to evolve slowly. I'm not working in my field rt now but have been trying to get back into it. Sometimes I feel like it is not meant to be bc of how long it is taking. IP: Logged |
bam201 Newflake Posts: 8 From: Registered: May 2018
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posted May 24, 2018 09:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:I too had major dental work done (oral surgery to remove all four wisdom teeth) in 1994 and my health has never been the same since. It has required me to totally change my expectations and actually led me into astrology and natural medicine, which are my vocations and passions.
I'm sorry to hear!! I had my wisdom teeth taken out as well after my major dental work. With the pain I had the dentist swore it was the wisdom teeth so they took them out. I also turned to natural medicine as much as I could. Can you share some of your knowledge? I made a habit of drinking chaga tea and took out processed foods. I also have a cycle where I eat vegan, no grains, it's kind of a maintenance period for me bc I don't ever want to step into a dental office again.
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The period of your breakup in late 2009 was characterized at least partly by Neptune's transit square your natal Venus. That is a time that can mean working towards an ideal relationship, or experiencing disappointment and disillusionment. It really depends on how you handle the Neptune (stress) to Venus dyanmic. I met my wife and started a relationship during that transit after a long period of loneliness.
That's funny I remember a vivid dream I had at that time that he wasn’t seeing me correctly. I let the break up happen bc there were things between us that I had forgiven but couldn’t live with. quote:
About 2012-17 you experienced the emotionally challenging transit of Pluto square natal Moon. That alone is tough, but Pluto at 19S15 declination was also parallel natal Uranus [19S24]. That can be a time of drastic change, personal revolution.
I do feel like my moon is challenged a lot and I am very vocal at times with my emotions, I don't like anything that isn't fair. Sometimes I will stay quiet to keep the peace, but it will come out in an outburst of emotion later. You know, I felt like the world was just throwing things at me at times, but I did learn a lot about myself and how much I needed to create meaning and stability in my life. IP: Logged |
bam201 Newflake Posts: 8 From: Registered: May 2018
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posted May 24, 2018 09:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: The transit of one planet squares,opposes and makes a conjunction to another has a domino effect.It can feel like your life is literally falling apart. I have a triple conjunction of Sag Sun,Sag Nep and Sag Jupiter. You also have a natal T square of Jup/Saturn in Lib opp Moon in Aries square Mars in Cap and Pluto Lib. Moon trines your Asc and joins the Sag triple conjunction with the active T square So when a transit happens to affect the Sag or cardinal T-square, its a domino effect. Things can feel like they are falling apart "all at once".[/B]
thank you for explaining!
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