posted June 25, 2020 02:04 PM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
Hi! I don’t see anything in his chart that particularly points to him being a player. I once knew a Gemini sun and Cancer moon who yes enjoyed his fair share of women lol but was faithful and pretty sweet. Plus this guy has Venus and Mars in Leo which is a fixed sign and can mean they are “fixed” once they find someone they are interested in. Gemini can be kind of tricky with understanding and really getting to know. This guy would do well with Virgo placements - DC in Virgo, Virgo sextiles his cancer moon, plus Virgo would understand his mercury ruler Gemini and mutable sun/rising. Again I might be missing something, but nothing really stands out to me as player type.

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posted June 25, 2020 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Confused Child:
What kind of person do you think he is? )

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posted June 26, 2020 04:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Confused Child:
I read that Saturn opposite Venus also exhibits itself as a fear of commitment so "player like" tendencies. This aspect is what spurred my question tbh. Thank you for noticing it.

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posted June 26, 2020 04:55 AM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
No problem! I think that Venus/Saturn aspects tend to be very serious in relationships or take them seriously. I’ve read the hard aspects can make one feel unloveable/ not good enough but maybe these feelings can make one fear commitment or avoid it? I’m sure there are many ways it plays out and once someone finds how to deal with it, it doesn’t have to be so negative. I did know a Saturn square Venus man who was a player though he had a lot going on in his chart so I can’t pin point it to that aspect. Saturn/ Venus hard aspects could also mean lack of love or affection growing up or was taught not to be showing of affection.

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posted June 26, 2020 07:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Confused Child:
Did the player you know have any Neptune aspects, afflicted Saturn or Moon? Would love to know more about his chart for learning purposes!

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posted June 26, 2020 09:16 AM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
He had moon conjunct Pluto and Saturn, with those 3 planets squaring a Venus/mercury/Juno conjunction. All pretty tight orb. He also had mars square Chiron. No Neptune aspects. He had the potential to be very faithful I think just needed to learn more about himself and what he wanted. He was also very independent - lots of Capricorn and Aquarius in his chart. I think he cared about people a lot and helping them, just didn’t want to get taken advantage of.

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Which would be the faithful aspect? Is it the conjunctions to Juno?

I would imagine Moon square Venus to be a player aspect and quite possibly the main one since what they need is different from what they want. And also Moon square Saturn leading to a fear of commitment due to reasons you mentioned e.g not feeling good enough and adversities while growing up, but once they DO commit, perhaps they have found what they need in order to commit hence become faithful. Though, the added squared to Venus might imply possible cheating in the relationship to get what they want. I would imagine Venus squared Saturn to be a fear of love and committing (Saturn) for the long term and further squared to Pluto might suggest that fear of love to stem from the fear of losing control over oneself.

Could Pluto squared Venus also be the explanation for why he feared getting taken advantage of (Pluto- control) despite caring for people (Venus) and wanting to help?

No Neptune aspects, do you mean he has an unaspected Neptune? Also what was his Sun, Moon and Venus sign?

posted June 26, 2020 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
No problem! As far as being faithful I could just tell deep down he craved love or being in a relationship but didn’t know how to get it. Maybe he was such a good player though that it was an act haha (his mercury/Venus conjunction is a charmer). But he had good qualities and cared about helping people. He is a Capricorn sun and mars/mercury/Venus in Aquarius. Moon in either late libra or early Scorpio. His Saturn was very early Scorpio and Pluto very late libra so the moon sat there in between. I think the Pluto aspects/Cap sun were possessive but this clashed with his freedom loving Aqua placements. Very hot and cold. I know Venus square Pluto is possessive, could be manipulative at times and wants intensity and passion in love. But the square could repel love at the same time. I have Venus square Pluto at 7 degrees but do feel this way at times.

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Wow! What is your Venus? Would you say you are scared of love? Perhaps getting overwhelmed by your own intensity and the other party being unable to keep up, feeling smothered and disappointing you in the end?

Wow I never paid attention to Sun because I always thought that is just the way you present yourself to the world i.e personality hence changeable. I'm an Aquarius Sun and have found myself relating to my Scorpio Moon more so over the years (rather than denying my feelings, I try to explore them and developed some understanding for myself as well as others. This were stuffs I often ignored and dismissed back in my younger days.) His Aquarius aspects, especially in Venus and Mars do give me plenty of player vibes tho!! I have an Aquarius stellium so I am quite familiar with being cold, unfeeling and the classic: flightiness & need for space.

I always thought genuine concern for people would be Cancer, who lives to nurture. IMHO Cancers can't stand the sight of any form of suffering while Aquarians would be able to, citing "necessary evil".

posted June 26, 2020 11:53 AM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
And I don’t think you can bypass the aspect. It might help to be very honest and open with your love, don’t hide things. But that is an internal thing he will have to deal with and overcome himself or just be more aware of its negative qualities.

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I am capable of going really deep and showering him with all of my love and every inch of me, being a Scorpio Moon but I am afraid of smothering him although I have tried being more open of my love lately and I have seen improvements.

Is my fear unwarranted afterall? Haha

posted June 26, 2020 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Confused Child:
I am capable of going really deep and showering him with all of my love and every inch of me, being a Scorpio Moon but I am afraid of smothering him although I have tried being more open of my love lately and I have seen improvements.

Is my fear unwarranted afterall? Haha

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I think your Scorpio moon will help relate to any Pluto aspects he has. And you being an Aqua sun/Scorpio moon and he a Gemini sun/cancer moon is a really nice combination. I think there will always be fear in the beginning of a relationship it just depends on how you handle it and being honest is key! My sister is an Aquarius sun and Scorpio moon. She like you was uncomfortable I think with feeling when she was younger but learned to embrace the Scorpio moon as she got older. It is that square of Aquarius and Scorpio that is tough.

posted June 26, 2020 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
I actually don’t know a lot about Ceres, just that it gives a caring nature. Could have similar traits to Cancer or Taurus I think. Don’t worry about the moon square Venus, if you find someone who fits into your aspects or has moon square Venus in their own chart it can work. Moon square Venus also manifests differently in women and men. I have mars square my sun/moon conjunction so I am very familiar with square energy . And as far as Leo placements with self esteem, I do struggle a lot with self esteem issues. But have sun/moon/Venus/ascendant/Jupiter all in Leo! Help!!! Haha

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Oh my, are you like the ultimate Leo!? You know how everywhere I read, they say that Leos want to date somebody GLAMOROUS and hot, some sort of eye candy and stuffs? But I have been thinking that perhaps it might manifest differently fo a stellium? E.g you might want someone hot but at the same time, because you have self esteem issues, you do not feel that you deserve them and might even wonder WHY they are into you.
Furthermore them being glamorous, sexy and hot might even intimidate you, triggering your Leo because you should be the only star hence you push them away.

posted June 26, 2020 01:35 PM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
I actually don’t know a lot about Ceres, just that it gives a caring nature. Could have similar traits to Cancer or Taurus I think. Don’t worry about the moon square Venus, if you find someone who fits into your aspects or has moon square Venus in their own chart it can work. Moon square Venus also manifests differently in women and men. I have mars square my sun/moon conjunction so I am very familiar with square energy . And as far as Leo placements with self esteem, I do struggle a lot with self esteem issues. But have sun/moon/Venus/ascendant/Jupiter all in Leo! Help!!! Haha

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