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posted August 27, 2020 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrobabes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just found my friend's birth time and pulled her chart.. she has a stellium in 8h in Capricorn and 6h house in scoripio. I would like to help her and mention everything that is important that she should know. I will post the chart, so if anyone could point out the major placements/aspects It would be very much appreciated. I would like to tell her everything!

Here is the chart (copy link and paste into url) http://ibb.co/QX4t4Dp

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I just found my friend's birth time and pulled her chart.. she has a stellium in 8h in Capricorn and 6h house in scoripio. I would like to help her and mention everything that is important that she should know. I will post the chart, so if anyone could point out the major placements/aspects It would be very much appreciated. I would like to tell her everything!

Here is the chart (copy link and paste into url) http://ibb.co/QX4t4Dp



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posted September 21, 2020 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaitaly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorn is about discipline, it's serious, cautious and reliable. The shadow aspects are being stuck, rigid, insecure and inhibited or pessimistic. The first thing that comes to mind is that you want to help your friend because he/she may be struggling with anxiety, depression, inhibition or some health problem, possibly?

Now, we have to consider the outer planets that conjunct the stellium as well as the sign and the house all these planets are in.

A stellium is a cluster of personal planets that when is conjunct outer planets like Uranus or Neptune takes a particular turn for the chart's holder. A stellium including outer planets can lead through life to a sense of alienation and isolation, the person is not mainstream, but this can also open the doors to higher levels of consciousness. Having Uranus and Neptune conjunct Sun Venus Mercury Mars is like having an influence of Aquarius and Piscis at the same time. Neptune in this chart rules the 11th house of how you fit with peers so this person, let's say, may be very good with responsibilities- Capricorn- but may have problems fitting in, for example; or can have too many high standards for him/herself so that it results in inhibition or anxiety (Saturn is also square Moon conj Pluto in Scorpio, the person in soo resilient and strong but may feel insecure), for example, but there's a strong will to bring forth some collective/group endeavor, possibly a very visionary one (Saturn in Aquarius).
At the same time, Nept-Uranus give commitment to make a difference; Uranus is innovative, humanitarian, yes also quirky and detached, eccentric and erratic, may be explosive and stubborn, while Saturn that rules this stellium in Capricorn and is conjunct the axis of career in the 10th house is prudent, has high standards, is concerned with perfectionism, but can be also anxious, negative and conservative. This mixture of structure (capricorn, saturn) and more erratic and disruptive energy (uranus) and imaginative, escapist energy (neptune) can create in the chart's holder an experience of very contrasting energies, and also since it's the outer planets we are talking about, of being sometimes overwhelmed by external forces or events on which the person has very little control over. This is because the person is experiencing at a very personal level energies and forces that are collective more than individual, in fact the outer planets have to do with the collective and the person here is called to understand this energies that affect the collective but on a personal level.
Stelliums with outer planets get better with time. As the person grows older he/she will know better him/herself and will know what to do of them.
As the person grows through them there's an opportunity later in life to use what has been learnt and experienced to be of service and help other people in similar difficulties. Saturn conjunct MC in 10th house of career speaks of a position that ideally involves responsibility, structure, and with saturn being the ruler of the 8th house also the profession may have to do with themes of the 8th house- transformation, intimacy, taxes or death, or the occult. The person has probably worked through these same issues for all his/her life. in any case a career indication is connected to this stellium. It involves structure, discipline and quality, but also... time!! Saturn is all about time, it takes time to get accomplished in life -possibly leading to some frustration down the line.

Now we should take a look at the stellium. In a stellium there is something that is called the "leading" planet, in this case is Mars in capricorn. Mars is determined, tireless, but also rash and stubborn; in the case of transits in capricorn how Mars responds to these transits shows how the person will deal with the crisis. It also establishes how the other planets will respond or operate. For example, if a transiting planet hits Mars, the person's first reactions will be through the assertive, aggressive or rash energy of Mars. With Saturn dominant in the chart, the person will try to soothe the tension hopefully by channeling this energy in being organized or getting things done. This could be an advice too just in case of a crisis.

A massive transit of Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto has affected Capricorn during covid times, it has been hard for everyone, but your friend certainly has felt this transit a lot on a personal level, impacting the levels of stress, bringing some major transformation or event into the 8th house. And 8th house matters are never *light*. How the person responded to these transits? How did they manage the Mars energy? Now transiting Mars is gone but Saturn and Pluto are still in the final degrees of capricorn so some major lesson should have happened already here. At its highest level Pluto brings healing and transformation to yourself and others. At first it doesn't feel like healing, but as a huge crisis; Pluto is deep, transformational, psychological; psychological issues are underrated when talking about pluto because all people think about when talking about pluto and scorpio is sex or intimacy. Moon-Pluto is in Scorpio in the 6th in this chart meaning that the person throughout life undergoes many emotional and psychological stress and transformation, but ultimately also a great wisdom, hopefully, and healing ability once our own demons have been faced.

So Mars it's hit first, it can react aggressive or defensive, or there may be the tendency to perceive everything as a threat. Awareness here is key. Here Mars affects Venus, that means relationships are stressed, or the way the person shows affection to close people. The Sun also affects Mercury and the mental processes, and they are conjunct Neptune; the good thing of Neptune is that it's compassionate and willing of being of service, but it tends to "dissipate" what it touches, can be chaotic and unrealistic. Can be prone to addictions (of whatever kind) and escapism. If a person is dealing with crisis in a way in which the outcome is not the desired one, these energies can be shifted. One way to shift these energies is to address the matters of the 8th house analysing familiar patterns, issues of trust and betrayal, power struggles in the family or intimate relationships, and HEALING.

Other thing can be said looking at rulerships and other things, but since the question was about the stellium, I stop here for the moment, hoping of being of some help.
Blessings,
Cha

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posted October 03, 2020 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrobabes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chaitaly:
Capricorn is about discipline, it's serious, cautious and reliable. The shadow aspects are being stuck, rigid, insecure and inhibited or pessimistic. The first thing that comes to mind is that you want to help your friend because he/she may be struggling with anxiety, depression, inhibition or some health problem, possibly?

Now, we have to consider the outer planets that conjunct the stellium as well as the sign and the house all these planets are in.

A stellium is a cluster of personal planets that when is conjunct outer planets like Uranus or Neptune takes a particular turn for the chart's holder. A stellium including outer planets can lead through life to a sense of alienation and isolation, the person is not mainstream, but this can also open the doors to higher levels of consciousness. Having Uranus and Neptune conjunct Sun Venus Mercury Mars is like having an influence of Aquarius and Piscis at the same time. Neptune in this chart rules the 11th house of how you fit with peers so this person, let's say, may be very good with responsibilities- Capricorn- but may have problems fitting in, for example; or can have too many high standards for him/herself so that it results in inhibition or anxiety (Saturn is also square Moon conj Pluto in Scorpio, the person in soo resilient and strong but may feel insecure), for example, but there's a strong will to bring forth some collective/group endeavor, possibly a very visionary one (Saturn in Aquarius).
At the same time, Nept-Uranus give commitment to make a difference; Uranus is innovative, humanitarian, yes also quirky and detached, eccentric and erratic, may be explosive and stubborn, while Saturn that rules this stellium in Capricorn and is conjunct the axis of career in the 10th house is prudent, has high standards, is concerned with perfectionism, but can be also anxious, negative and conservative. This mixture of structure (capricorn, saturn) and more erratic and disruptive energy (uranus) and imaginative, escapist energy (neptune) can create in the chart's holder an experience of very contrasting energies, and also since it's the outer planets we are talking about, of being sometimes overwhelmed by external forces or events on which the person has very little control over. This is because the person is experiencing at a very personal level energies and forces that are collective more than individual, in fact the outer planets have to do with the collective and the person here is called to understand this energies that affect the collective but on a personal level.
Stelliums with outer planets get better with time. As the person grows older he/she will know better him/herself and will know what to do of them.
As the person grows through them there's an opportunity later in life to use what has been learnt and experienced to be of service and help other people in similar difficulties. Saturn conjunct MC in 10th house of career speaks of a position that ideally involves responsibility, structure, and with saturn being the ruler of the 8th house also the profession may have to do with themes of the 8th house- transformation, intimacy, taxes or death, or the occult. The person has probably worked through these same issues for all his/her life. in any case a career indication is connected to this stellium. It involves structure, discipline and quality, but also... time!! Saturn is all about time, it takes time to get accomplished in life -possibly leading to some frustration down the line.

Now we should take a look at the stellium. In a stellium there is something that is called the "leading" planet, in this case is Mars in capricorn. Mars is determined, tireless, but also rash and stubborn; in the case of transits in capricorn how Mars responds to these transits shows how the person will deal with the crisis. It also establishes how the other planets will respond or operate. For example, if a transiting planet hits Mars, the person's first reactions will be through the assertive, aggressive or rash energy of Mars. With Saturn dominant in the chart, the person will try to soothe the tension hopefully by channeling this energy in being organized or getting things done. This could be an advice too just in case of a crisis.

A massive transit of Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto has affected Capricorn during covid times, it has been hard for everyone, but your friend certainly has felt this transit a lot on a personal level, impacting the levels of stress, bringing some major transformation or event into the 8th house. And 8th house matters are never *light*. How the person responded to these transits? How did they manage the Mars energy? Now transiting Mars is gone but Saturn and Pluto are still in the final degrees of capricorn so some major lesson should have happened already here. At its highest level Pluto brings healing and transformation to yourself and others. At first it doesn't feel like healing, but as a huge crisis; Pluto is deep, transformational, psychological; psychological issues are underrated when talking about pluto because all people think about when talking about pluto and scorpio is sex or intimacy. Moon-Pluto is in Scorpio in the 6th in this chart meaning that the person throughout life undergoes many emotional and psychological stress and transformation, but ultimately also a great wisdom, hopefully, and healing ability once our own demons have been faced.

So Mars it's hit first, it can react aggressive or defensive, or there may be the tendency to perceive everything as a threat. Awareness here is key. Here Mars affects Venus, that means relationships are stressed, or the way the person shows affection to close people. The Sun also affects Mercury and the mental processes, and they are conjunct Neptune; the good thing of Neptune is that it's compassionate and willing of being of service, but it tends to "dissipate" what it touches, can be chaotic and unrealistic. Can be prone to addictions (of whatever kind) and escapism. If a person is dealing with crisis in a way in which the outcome is not the desired one, these energies can be shifted. One way to shift these energies is to address the matters of the 8th house analysing familiar patterns, issues of trust and betrayal, power struggles in the family or intimate relationships, and HEALING.

Other thing can be said looking at rulerships and other things, but since the question was about the stellium, I stop here for the moment, hoping of being of some help.
Blessings,
Cha



WOW thank you SO much!! I will tell her

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