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ChildofVenus
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posted August 28, 2020 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 28, 2020 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you done a walk-through with someone who works on dead bodies yet, ChildofVenus? Have you touched or handled a corpse?

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You've said you work with an agency dealing with helping Elders? .. That would be closest to the career path of a Social Worker.

Think about our Nation right now too--
loads of people losing their places to live. And I understand that perhaps more funds will be flowing towards Social Work involvements with Law Enforcement.

Social Workers are involved with families who have lost members, and experience overwhelm.

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posted August 29, 2020 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dead bodies really don’t bother me hence my 8th house.

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posted August 29, 2020 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
re Dead bodies...

"REAL" dead bodies?
or "Imagining" there are dead bodies?

Have you HAD any 'live experiences' with dead bodies yet?

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posted August 29, 2020 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Real dead bodies when I was younger I use to visit websites that feature dead bodies. It’s not possible to actually have experience with dead bodies unless you are actually working in the field.

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posted August 29, 2020 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In these days on television there are crime shows that feature morgues, with physicians and investigators doing autopsies, and showing what it looks like.

What you said about not being able to be with a real dead body unless you are 'in the field' is correct. Long ago in Asteroid astrology we had a conversation about this.

You could approach a mortuary person, or even a hospital morgue, and try to convince the person in-charge that you want to 'explore' what this would 'feel' like. Maybe they could even allow you to 'shadow' them for a day or a few days, to let you KNOW for concrete-reality sure 'how' you would fit or not into that field. Take it OUT of the realm of imagination {before you would do book-learning for it}. You might save yourself "time" .. by doing this in a DIRECT way.

Like in nursing... there's a difference between book-knowledge and ACTUALLY working on a patient. What if you spend a chunk of years of your time.. only to find out you didn't like it in "reality?"

I know how you've agonized over this decision of yours for years now.

While there are planets in EARTH energies right now, try to see if you can 'ground' .. really TOUCH the fields you 'think' you would be interested in?

Don't "wonder" ... go 'do' it. Try it out.

I can imagine that IF a really-serious person were to approach someone who works IN the field, that 'a way' would be made for that person to Explore it.

Mortuary science is NOT for everyone.
I know there have been Goth trends, and interests in vampires and zombies. This science is DIFFERENT than that entertainment field idea.

The other place to explore .. might be with contacting the Military. Perhaps there are persons in the VA who could enlighten you on the REAL of this field, ... which is actually too, part of a human sacred ritual... an Act of Love.

I had a hair dresser in the past who loved his regular customers. When any of them died, he considered it an act of love and honor to be asked by relatives to fashion the hair of his client for the viewing.
... He was SUCH a sweet man.

So. Go. Do. Explore your Imaginations in REAL-Time. That way, you can lower some of your anxieties over making choices. Make it REAL.

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posted August 29, 2020 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For Social Work?

I would be pretty certain that there are organizations who would allow you to 'shadow', AFTER you would apply, and be vetted by them, and go through some training first.

There are Guardian Ad Litem programs that look for volunteers from the community. These are social workers who watch over Children in troubled-homes and situations.

Guardian Advocates

I think there ??might?? be Guardian programs over other ages too. (I'm not sure.)

- http://guardianadlitem.org/

These kinds of places might take interested persons, and send them to be Educated in their fields, and hired.

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posted August 30, 2020 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not that easy just going into a funeral home asking to see an embalming. And there are many different jobs in Social Work. Hospice Social Work, Public Welfare, Medical Social Work, School Social Work. It's not only working with children. You can also work with the elderly with the veterans. You can work with people who suffer from Mental Illness as a counselor.

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posted August 30, 2020 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think overall Social Work would be more fulfilling.

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posted August 30, 2020 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"It's not that easy just going into a funeral home asking to see an embalming."

You're hilarious!!!! omg
ahem... nope, I think you'd be VERY right in assuming that, if you didn't finesse and plan a good way to get a contact, and have some strategic serious conversations!!

Social Work
You've listed a variety of ways with which you could apply a degree and certifications in Social Work. As I understand {from people I've known} it's an "easy" degree path that gets you in the door. Getting an MSW would qualify you to open your own practice, and be paid by insurances.

Insurance made exception to the rule that you need to be at the highest educational degree in your field, to qualify with insurances. When it comes to counseling within social work, they short-cut that requirement. They 'allow' you to qualify charging your services through a client's insurance plan.
-- If you wanted to be a counselor with a master's in psych, you can't charge insurance plans until you've obtained that PhD, or PsyD. ... An MSW {masters degree in SW} without getting the PhD is acceptable to insurances.

If you start in one kind of social work, it would be easy to cross-over to working with the various other population groups.

So. You're getting CLOSER to deciding?
That might really feel like an extraordinary RELIEF for you. Plans can be laid down easily, and pursued with clarity.

This is so appropriate as the Sun is in Virgo right now, and in your 1st House. The house of Identity.. how you want to present yourself, your image. Social work is a good Virgo-type of career or occupation.

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posted August 31, 2020 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had Anatomy with Cadaver class. The most disturbing thing for me was the smell. It followed me even after the class. I’m sure some community colleges offer this class. It’s entry level. They give you couple corps. My classmate had nightmares about it. For me, it wasn’t that troubling. When you need to touch and smell them. it’s a different experience than a picture.

Could it be more opposite choices... lol Social work - You need to be social, listen, be patient. Mortician- good for someone who doesn’t like to be around people.

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posted August 31, 2020 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
I had Anatomy with Cadaver class. The most disturbing thing for me was the smell. It followed me even after the class. I’m sure some community colleges offer this class. It’s entry level. They give you couple corps. My classmate had nightmares about it. For me, it wasn’t that troubling. When you need to touch and smell them. it’s a different experience than a picture.

Could it be more opposite choices... lol Social work - You need to be social, listen, be patient. Mortician- good for someone who doesn’t like to be around people.



Everyone says I need to do Social Work because of my Aquarius Moon in the six house and Mars in the 10th sextile my Mercury. You still have to be social with Mortuary Science because you have to deal with grieving families. And yes I've heard that it's usually the smell that's the worse not so much the image.

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posted September 19, 2020 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AQUACap88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Everyone says I need to do Social Work because of my Aquarius Moon in the six house and Mars in the 10th sextile my Mercury. You still have to be social with Mortuary Science because you have to deal with grieving families. And yes I've heard that it's usually the smell that's the worse not so much the image.

I agree, it was your Moon in 6th house that drew my attention, however your 8th house does explain why Mortuary Science is fascinating to you.

Ultimately my idea is to draw a map on how many years it would take to be where you want to be e.g I read online that Mortuary Science takes 4 years of college to complete? Social work - counsellor might stretch out to Masters or PhD like what Mirage said. There is a lot of commitment and cost involved, such a decision is not something anyone on the internet can make for you since it is obviously your life but more importantly, it would only take a few seconds for me to advise by typing a few words to you then cleared out from my head completely, however you will be the one living it. All the studying/suffering, giving up certain areas/enjoyment in life, starting a new life, new life plan, meeting new people and THE COST of an education. Student debt?


My point is, figure out the basics/logistics and see which is easier to swallow/more acceptable for you. Because this is a decision that would affect/take up at least the next 8-10 years of your life. Think about how you'd like to live those next 8-10 years.

On the contrarily, if the cost and commitment is about the same and you are at the point where you truly don't care which because both are equally as appealing to you, then just flip a coin. If you are happy with the results, you made the right one. If you are unhappy, then you already know what the correct answer is. What is it you subconsciously, really want to be.

I also want to point out that I agree with the above. Seeing pictures is different from interacting, TOUCHING the real thing. Think again and plan a road map for yourself.

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posted September 20, 2020 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[b] I agree, it was your Moon in 6th house that drew my attention, however your 8th house does explain why Mortuary Science is fascinating to you.

Ultimately my idea is to draw a map on how many years it would take to be where you want to be e.g I read online that Mortuary Science takes 4 years of college to complete? Social work - counsellor might stretch out to Masters or PhD like what Mirage said. There is a lot of commitment and cost involved, such a decision is not something anyone on the internet can make for you since it is obviously your life but more importantly, it would only take a few seconds for me to advise by typing a few words to you then cleared out from my head completely, however you will be the one living it. All the studying/suffering, giving up certain areas/enjoyment in life, starting a new life, new life plan, meeting new people and THE COST of an education. Student debt?


My point is, figure out the basics/logistics and see which is easier to swallow/more acceptable for you. Because this is a decision that would affect/take up at least the next 8-10 years of your life. Think about how you'd like to live those next 8-10 years.

On the contrarily, if the cost and commitment is about the same and you are at the point where you truly don't care which because both are equally as appealing to you, then just flip a coin. If you are happy with the results, you made the right one. If you are unhappy, then you already know what the correct answer is. What is it you subconsciously, really want to be.

I also want to point out that I agree with the above. Seeing pictures is different from interacting, TOUCHING the real thing. Think again and plan a road map for yourself.


Thank you for your input I agree that seeing pictures is different than actually experiencing it in real life. I honestly don't think it would be an issue for me though. The Mortuary Science program is two years if you go part time and one year if you go full time. So I could actually do it all in three years. If I take the prerequisite classes full time. But yes the longest would be 4 years. For Social Work you need at least a Master's Degree. Which could take 5 years if I get a Bachelor's degree and did advanced standing. Which means I would only have to go to school for one year to get a Master's Degree instead of two. 8 to 10 years is a long time I don't want to be in school for that long.

I think it's important for me to also consider how I would feel in the working environment. I feel peaceful whenever I'm at a cemetery I just think it's beautiful it's hard to explain. And I similar at funeral homes. The last time I went to a funeral home I actually looked around and took pictures. I remember thinking about how beautiful I thought it was. But that's because of my 8th house.

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