posted November 21, 2020 03:13 AM            

Think of your natal chart as describing how the first saturn cycle took you from birth to adulthood ... and thus created/resulted-in-you-becoming the person that your soul INTENDED you to be at the time of your First Saturn Return.

Then ... reflect upon how/why the First Saturn Return Chart describes the "born-again" you ... or the adult that has the task (in the 2nd+3rd Saturn Cycles) of dealing with the natal chart issues which the Soul intends to confront in its current incarnation.

Without such reflection (followed by appropriate action) ... you are destined to become one of the many "soul+egos currently residing in a human physical body" that will go through life without ever understanding where he/she has come from and is going to.

For example - during your First Saturn Cycle, what kind of reputation have you created for yourself (with 10th house employers and colleagues)? ... And, to what extent have you learned that Saturn only kicks the butts of those who have failed to learn its lessons?

posted November 22, 2020 07:32 AM            

In March I moved into a rent flat for the 1st time in my life, after I broke up with my abusive ex a month before (Aqua effect on the foundation, having to become independent living on my own)

I am having the 2nd round from December (it's gonna be a very interesting B-Day month...) And I can feel it coming as well. Suddenly, I became very serious about nesting and establishing a family! Me, the person, who always thought it was a better idea to avoid having kids not to hurt anyone with family patterns and stuff (as I come from a rough and abusive environment)

Saturn can indicate delays in becoming successful - it depends which house it is located in natally. In my case it's the 4th, and true, I've been watching my peers getting married and having kids over the years, I even have past people who have already had their divorces, 3rd kid, etc. But it can also indicate searching for something solid and serious, which is also true for me, I want to have a mature and serious person to build with. (And here comes the Aqua and Uranian effect in the picture again, because so far I've only met immature and selfish ppl just like my dad, and I want someone who is unique and stands out from these people. Someone, who is different than them, whom I can start trusting for the 1st time in my life.)

It's gonna be interesting to watch events happening from Dec, I have Saturn conjunct Juno conjuncting my IC, and even transiting Jupiter is gonna touch this bunch (Jupiter and Juno, perhaps marriage material arriving? We'll see...)

posted November 23, 2020 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Loveher:
I do want to work for myself. I tried to work online for myself but it did not work out. I have to go back to work for financial struggles. But I realised how much I hate it. I hate working for people. I hate dealing with HR. I hate dealing with managers. I hate dealing with coworkers. I hate dealing with customers. Everyone and everything is getting on my nerves now. I want to be my own boss and move to a better city.

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"No matter where you go ... there you are."
"You can run ... but you cannot hide."
"Whenever we look into a mirror, we see the cause of all our problems."
"I hate ... I hate ... I hate ... I hate ...I hate ... I hate ..."

posted November 23, 2020 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Loveher:
I do want to work for myself. I tried to work online for myself but it did not work out. I have to go back to work for financial struggles. But I realised how much I hate it. I hate working for people. I hate dealing with HR. I hate dealing with managers. I hate dealing with coworkers. I hate dealing with customers. Everyone and everything is getting on my nerves now. I want to be my own boss and move to a better city.

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"No matter where you go ... there you are."

"You can run ... but you cannot hide."

"Whenever we look into a mirror, we see the cause of all our problems."

"I hate ... I hate ... I hate ... I hate ...I hate ... I hate ..."

"Please, God ... grant me the courage to change the things that I can; the serenity to accept whaI cannot change and the wisdom to know the difference."

posted November 23, 2020 07:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
"No matter where you go ... there you are."

"You can run ... but you cannot hide."

"Whenever we look into a mirror, we see the cause of all our problems."

"I hate ... I hate ... I hate ... I hate ...I hate ... I hate ..."

"Please, God ... grant me the courage to change the things that I can; the serenity to accept whaI cannot change and the wisdom to know the difference."

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posted November 24, 2020 12:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Loveher:
Graham you know astrology. Writing this paragraph to someone who is having Saturn return is not a very nice thing to do.

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Actually ... it is a very caring (Cancer) + responsible (Capricorn) thing for me to have done. ... And, when you understand why that is so, life will begin to get easier for you.

posted November 24, 2020 01:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Loveher:
Graham you know astrology. Writing this paragraph to someone who is having Saturn return is not a very nice thing to do.

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It would be much easier (for me) to leave you sleeping whilst the flames of life are burning around you, than to handle my own demons/self-doubts** about attempting to awaken someone that may not yet be "ready" to hear the message of a current transit or/and progression.

So, if you'd prefer it ... I am ok with leaving you to continue your current behaviour/practice ... of asking questions that cannot be answered without self-examination, then walking/running away from the emotional pain involved in carrying out that self-examination.