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vansio
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posted January 06, 2021 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moon.. I just woke up from a nightmare 😥

can you please help me gain some insight with my situation with “max”?

I don’t know who else to ask. feeling out of sorts

I feel as if my pleas for help are being misconstrued written-off as a mere crush but I have an 8th House Anaretic Capricorn Moon... I do NOT typically ask for outside assistance unless it spiritually necessary. 😔

Also the other night while sleeping... my tigers eye necklace split-cleanly in half

If it weren’t for lockdown I’d get a replacement asap

My own cards are saying like
Stars - World - Two of Cups - Knight of Wands - 10 of Penatcles
meanwhile intense stuff goes on? My intuition is fried what is going on?

returning to sleep now... please don’t quote. thanks in advance if you do wish to offer guidance 🤍

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Librapurr
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posted January 07, 2021 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It might be not really related, but I had a situation with Tiger eye during Pluto transits. I lost it, and it was a kinda milestone.
Tiger eye is related to personal power, confidence. In my situation, losing Tiger eye might be a sign of needing to lose my pride to fix situation. I couldn’t do it anyway at that time. Losing of the crystal was the important timing for me.
I didn’t read your story. I just share a little personal insight. You can disregard if it’s not related.

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MoonMystic
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posted January 07, 2021 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Vansio ~

Hello my dear. I apologize for the delay,  I'm buzzing about different  places lately.

Dream +  Max
  Your nightmare might have brought an astral traveler along.  To slice that gem in half, unless it previously had been damaged in a slight defect? It had not been around intense temperatures? Only asking to think of this in 3d as well as the unseen realms, or unseen others.

*I'll  pull on Max's energy afterwards*

  I pulled out my decks of Kipper and Leonormand  *Under the roses*, as well
RWs.  I started by pulling your energy.
The Kipper gave me a 33 card for you. Giving me a sense and indication that,  yes, Spirit was aligned. I've seen your numerology post. As well a couple Tarots (on your energies) Here came Queen of Swords and Knight of Wands. As you had him too, He is a repeat visitor.
I threw your dice and interesting connection in the cards 7 ~ 8 ~ 16   (=31)  or 4
  (anscestry  or roots, perchance a blood enemy)

  ~ I'll start with what energies I pulled for your situation surrounding your dream.


- Strength -  Leo  8th Major Arcana
     Courage , Power, Focus.
During your dreamtime you're in a focus, possibly Lucid dreaming or not to be tmi, if you had a cycle during this time - the Moon would be more powerfully connected with you.
You faced something in your dreamstate that was attempting to menace you.  I see you thrashing in your sleep,  as though this chain was trying to restrict your air. Only it wasn't happening to you by your fighting the unseen one, it may have been an astral traveler or a disembodied one. Meant as a scare, I feel.
You were strong against this attempt but your tiger's eye ~ sadly wasn't. Did you know this Max during the past Lionsgate? 8/2020. This was a time when the veil began to thin. You've cat energy here. Fire. Lion. Tiger's Eye. +Strength card.
 ~ Maybe you can add that. Leo also begins in the 2nd half of July too, right?

- 7  of Wands -   Mars  in Leo
 Courage, determination,
 defensive, maintaining control.
 Along with Strength, this was you.
You went in with a passion to retrieve,  learn and explore but faced a suprise once there. In an attempt to leave, were caught in a battle.

- 7 of Swords -  (Moon in Aquarius)
  strategy, trickery and deception.  However this is not always bad energy as with anything, the whole story needs inspected. Someone (an Air sign) may have been strategically plotting an exit. (reading it with dream standpoint) A repeat in the Courage.  Within your dream you had a strong motivation to bring back your (total) recall. Forgive the movie ref. This exit was likely yours - from the dreamspace. You manuevered yourself to awaken with all you could from your learned portions. You may have revealed something you knew you needed to quickly  come back with. or you may forget it. Did you encounter a bearded man?


  - Essentially these cards are your dice reflected!  Your Moon is in 8th you said?  Your Moon is bringing forth secrets  during dreamtime. (Scorpio) However some one/being is against your learning these secrets.  Resistance.  7 of Swords will reflect this and my intial draw on your energy, could there be an Air sign (feminine maybe, the swords maybe cats claws) who would have a calculated move to wield his/her sword as a warning strike or been the one you battled to get back to wake state?


Kipper -Main Female - (2)
   she holds a red rose. Has her white roses in a vase. (innocence) Yet her window drapes are wide open. As though someone could be seeing her here.  I feel this is you being seen from the veil and once you fall asleep,  you are together with those or the one piercing through the veil .. while you are awake  there's white roses,  once asleep you have fire to your single rose, the red rose.

   8 of ❤  - The MOON  -
was your  Leonormand  card.
like 8 of Cups but she (Moon) holds secrets, we know. You traveled to discover them, maybe unknowingly.  Your subconscious msy have lead you. This was an emotional  quest.
traditional cards would say you turned your back. I feel this is you going towards 8 of cups in the dreamworld.


(spoiler)
He may have given you a red riose in hopes of exchanging it for the beautiful white ones. (your innocence ~ or secrets you had discovered - involving him, your connection before these lifetimes).

.. .. 🗝 .. ..

Max's energy

4 ~ 9 ~ 18  (9×2)
  (=31)
He may be your TF or SM. You share the 31!
~ Maybe you're both innately aware of it, if so.


 We pulled 2 RWs on him

- 10 of Wands - 
   Fire signs Aries. Sagittarius  and Leo (feline too)
 A very  tired energy. He's feeling an abundance of stress. At his limits with burning out on energy.  A goal is creating a heavy burden upon him. Something or someone pretty important to him.


-  7 of Cups -  Scorpio or Neptune   8th house
  Confusion,  hopes, dreams, fantasy, illusion
  This card often is depicted as the Magician working to manifest, yet not as skilled at getting his desired results. When I started with your energy, the bottom of the Deck - The Magician made an appearance.  This card (7) is connected to 2 of yours.

I feel he's  been thinking of you during sleep time and, or possibly working to manifest you. This other person, your struggled with one, may be your anscestral one, trying to stop you as this Max and you are from a past lifetime and you may not be ready to learn details - or they have no intention to allow you to discover the past linkage between you both. Max may have some knowledge  ~ however I feel you have more. He just feels a need to understand why he's drawn to you. Another though, someone beyone the grave has left their imprint upon one of you. Like a curse, you're fighting the unliving to learn your connection ~ yet beyond fhe flesh spoken for.


Both his cards are blue bgs, this indicates to me he must be asleep during these times and meeting with or Just observing you.

(his)
The Kipper card
- below these were included in your msg:
C > 3 M > 13 > 31
-  Courtship -  (4) 4th house  (anscestry)
letters C , M are here and an angel statue.
He gas a beard, she's in a pinkish long dress.
I feel he's deeply asleep and this energy is how he sees you in his dream. You are wearing this dress (Venus color), his love interest. His thighs appear clenched, to me suggesting arousal. . Your anscestry watcher (the angel) watches to be certain this does not go past a line they have cleverly affixed for you both - a brick wall between you both represents the waking zone . Idk .. either one of you made enemies of the others family in the roots or He's forgotten he's been dangerous to you in your past. Your cat Spirit ?totem?  Is protective of you. His intent may be most understood by them, he's (7 of cups) unfocused on his true intentions, therefore could abuse this rendezvous. That is another possibility.

Wands cards earlier may imply he's attempting to go from the 3d, as an incubus, to seduce you.
This is only a possibility. 


 (His)
Leonormand card
 - The Tree -  7 of Cups   (emotions/Other)
 Upon a small patch of green grass, alone, like an island upon glassy,  reflective water.
 Legacy. Time. Sacrifices. Recovery. Relative.  Spirit.

~ As well you may have once been married, a myriad off relationship possibilities are on the table. Legacy could speak to of feuding families, where one steals wealth an prestige from the other.


  so many 7s .. could you have had something begin in July? Does July feel connected at all?
As well 7s are about truth seeking missions. Perhaps you both are them but you're more clear with intent, he is lost in fantasy.
 


* I might learn more, pls refresh in case I add.
I very much hope this helped.
Pls let me know your thoughts, feelings on it.

 Keep a white light around you until you can get a new talisman.  Can you  get one online perhaps?

Pray to your protective spirits and request them to keep a strong vigil upon you when sleep.

~M ♥️ M ~

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vansio
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posted January 07, 2021 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks librapurr for you comment, something worth giving precendence... an older woman, close friend of my room told me she believes this crack or hit was about “old energies”, not an attack.

moon, I do shower with the neckclase but other than that, warm apartment, and I wear it under my shirt, so it could not have banged against anything.
What I didn’t mention... is the necklace also has chakra stones on the other half... and the split happened directly above the Root- Sacral. Happened a few days ago, and now this bad dream, could be my subconscious handling twisted info.


Not my cycle, well, at least I just finished ovulation.


When I woke up... I sort of had this feeling that it was a darker energy masquading as him in my dream. His head but a scrawny body. There was also a creepy sound in my room, a brief bang under my bed and then lower vibration waves in my left ear as I went back to sleep. And a faint feeling on something caressing my eyebrow.


I’ve known Max since 2015.

He has a Moon in Aquarius.

No bearded man. And yes I left this dream when it got too much. Not startled awake, rather, LEFT.

I wear a light pink long wool dress often. Imo he has forgotten he has been dangerous to me in past lives... I hold steady in spite of the linger of this

I pull the Tree card often for him at this time (the fox as well...)

Thank you for holding me in your thoughts.

I don’t know about twin flames anymore (besides born with a soul mission) but will see in two weeks. If it such the case, for whatever reason, try as I might in self-love, these things don’t ground easily. We haven’t spent an extended amount of time together since our meeting in 2015 that lasted three weeks because he was only visiting the states; since, a phone call once every year; one random run in of fifteen minutes when I was in my last relationship (he wasn’t even living in the city, so when we saw each other it was a surprise), year or so later a day trip for an art show, a couple hours walking (still in my relationship so it was intense). now he flies in. recently ended his own relationship or so he said, but these things take time. Took me two and a half years to mourn my own. the people we found ourselves after meeting each other: my ex is German, his ex is american

I cannot tell for the life of me if he wants something serious eventually or just more of the same attention/connection

bc of instant yet deep longing, I’m inclined between trying to steer clear or live each moment out..

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vansio
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posted January 07, 2021 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It’s repeated to me that seemingly I take things too seriously, generally, as if perpetually., and I can’t help but wonder where or who with I could every belong to if people, men, are concerned with their control above all, even the feminine before them. Sincerely confused with why others seem so easily scared—sure, I don’t make things easy as premade sliced cherry pie, but what else is creation? Are few of us familiar to sharing unfiltered authenticity? Genuine question: people reiterate their struggles as-if in hindsight the previous, leading “issues’ were reasonable—I don’t buy this requital at all! BS! The two: anxiety-uncertainty and dependability-requitedness, are irrelevant to each other. somehow, we eventually perceive these contentions to be resolved by union itself. Wild.

Is it at all possible in tarot to read into the level of someone else’s (his) engagement, for the sake of me I observing a level playing field? My default is to back off because I can’t be too sure, ever, of whether I am “misbehaving” with others, in their capacity.

Other option, would be to stfu and never ask of anything, doormat, let everyone enjoy whims with me in mind; release the constant flow of perceiving too much beneath the surface silently and unsatisfactorily. Numb out to Life as is. I do this often already, but when my own romantic life is called in question , I could not wish for passivity there... whatever, 8th House moon and 5th House Pluto ... not meant to hold onto anything for longer than its own breath.

I’m sorry that I write so dramatically...cannot help it.

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posted January 07, 2021 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don’t sound dramatic, and there is nothing wrong with taking things seriously - especially relationships.

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posted January 08, 2021 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vansio ~

  Any new dreams? Maybe new clues brought fwd?

  Have you worked on your sacral chakra since? I agree the dream may have been difficult and twisted, seeing a potential connection that your awakie self may have had a huge problem understanding or accepting.

Bearded man could be as in a secret hidden, like a 'beard'. A person wearing a disguise,  coming but holding back with secrets.

The tree definitely is speaking if my pulling it is an echo. I'd watch the fox.
Any info on the pony, chipmunk and the wolf?
This is random but do they fit anywhere for you?

Yeah, the TF, SM thing is sort of out there and ever changing so I include it in the event the person is open to those. I understand it's a grey area for many of us.

  .

I understand your 8th h Moon might be less comfortable  in a restrictive commitment. A rather intense placement. Your Moon is powerful.  Not that you threaten men, they might feel more vulnerable with you. As though they are younger, yet don't have to be. Your Moon is strong and sensed by another (your other).


I am sorry .. if some of your frustration is with the reading? I don'twant to add to your unsettled feeling. I'm  learning still.  I asked in reference to the dream. Your energy ~ and his.  I don't  feel you are "misbehaving" with him or others.  Do not be passive - be you! ♡
Can we see where your progress chart has your Moon+Pluto now? 

 You're  not dramatic - these are your feelings. Which ARE valid.

Btw, what a writer you would make!


Did you find, search a new tiger's eye? Sacral Chskra work may help too.  I very much hope you can get this worked out. Let me know (Friday evening,I can) if you'd like any cards added to this. You could guide by the Qs.


  Take care +
   have a great weekend too.
 ~ M M ~

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vansio
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posted January 08, 2021 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Moon, I appreciate you for taking the time to be with me. None of my frustration is with your reading! I adore connecting with you.

The following night, last night, I dreamt again of being sexually assaulted. this time by a very weird unrecognizable man, heavy set, loose colorful clothes, bejeweled, possibly bearded but more like unshaven. Am a lucid dreamer, so in my dream walking away from the scene had to ask myself how/if I’ve created this... (unlikely.) I’ll write more soon, this seems abnormal.

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted January 11, 2021 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it possible that some of these are connected to other life experiences and trauma that is coming up for you to become conscious of now to heal/let go of?

If so, perhaps this previously unconscious trauma has interfered some in your relationships via fears and issues around power/surrender especially in relation to men and/or closer relationships?

Also, as an aside, while many men do not like intensity in women, some of us do. Some of us prefer depth and intensity over much else. With that said, that of joy, lightness, humor, play/playfulness is nice, helpful, and also important to keep a balance--speaking in a general sense. And speaking as one who spent the slight majority of their life being over serious much of the time (and who has become more light hearted for the most part).

Anyways, I hope you figure all of this stuff out. Not sure why, but I often feel an odd fondness for you (I generally stay pretty detached and impersonal in my interactions with others most of the time, the whole Cap Sun and Angular Aqua Venus ruler of my Moon square Angular Uranus thing). Almost like you were a daughter or sister in some experience or something.

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