posted February 08, 2021 12:27 PM            

I hope you’re doing well and getting plenty of rest and relaxation in these dreary months.

Just wanted to give you an update.

So when I visited him as a surprise, it was so apparent how thrilled he was. We held each other for what seems like hours, and I could feel him shaking, and his tears coming through that wet my shoulder. We talked and laughed and discussed what had happened. He showed me all the updates he’d done to his home since he’d moved in. It was like it was completely back to normal. He said three times during my visit that I need to get his new phone number. As I was leaving (I was still in a happy trance) he pulled me back and said, “Hey, get my number.” And we exchanged them, and then hugged again for so long, and had the most meaningful kisses. And then I left, and looked back, and we smiled happily at each other.

We texted that night and he said we certainly should keep talking. He left the next morning for that ski trip, and I assumed he wouldn’t say anything until he got back, but he texted that evening and asked if I’d got back okay and how everything was. We talked for a bit, and then I noticed his tone changed. It was less talkative. He’d not respond sometimes.

Fast forward to yesterday. I asked him if he wanted to FaceTime. And he responded that he had been thinking over and over about everything and that as much as I was the most amazing person he’d met, that it was over. That he can’t get past what happened. I tried asking questions but he just seemed angry and short. He said he intends to move on and that I should do the same. I asked him, did I just imagine that connection when I was there? Didn’t you feel it? He couldn’t even answer. But Moon, I saw his face. I felt the way he would not let me go when he held me. I tried leaving twice and he kept pulling me back. I know the love is there. He just cannot seem to get past the fact that I “let him go”, when really, that was not the case at all. I thought I had explained it to him well, he seemed so happy that I had taken this huge step to see him. He seemed so protective and even jealous as he usually was if I ever spoke of other friends. I feel like when he sees my face, he feels that his heart is full and everything is okay, but then when he goes without seeing me and is immersed in his overthinking, over analytical, majorly Scorpionic self, he closes off and believes his worst suspicions. Such night and day from when I saw him and he was so eager to continue.

There’s really nothing else I can do. He says he is completely done, yet I am still hanging on to the hope that perhaps one day that will change. But, we do not even live in the same state. And this 2 whirlwind of a relationship has just seemingly disappeared for the most trivial of reasons.

Moon, what do you think? I know in your first reading for me you said there are no other soul contracts standing in the way of this one. Am I to expect that I won’t ever meet someone who I so long to passionately love, and who so passionately loves me? I thought it was him—but could I have been so off on my interpretations? He was just so committed and devoted. And this all seems like such a silly misunderstanding. But in his mind it is final.

posted February 08, 2021 11:54 PM            

It all started out beautiful. I wonder if this is (unappearing as so) unfinished. I mean could he suprise you on V-day? This is not at all what I expected. I am so sorry.
Give it a window (realistic timing) and then shut it - heal your heart. Stay high vibe. (healthy/balanced +attractive for self and others) If the Soul contract was the last one- you may have none. Which is actually a good thing, if so! You want to be free to chose. No predetermined partner ~ unless you want them! All the best in what you decided is best for you.

posted February 09, 2021 10:31 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
MonteCristo ~ I really don't know what to say. Unless something happened since the time you were out of touch with eachother. Or as I had feared a friend got to him and changed his thinking - perception of you. I am sorry.

It all started out beautiful. I wonder if this is (unappearing as so) unfinished. I mean could he suprise you on V-day? This is not at all what I expected. I am so sorry.
Give it a window (realistic timing) and then shut it - heal your heart. Stay high vibe. (healthy/balanced +attractive for self and others) If the Soul contract was the last one- you may have none. Which is actually a good thing, if so! You want to be free to chose. No predetermined partner ~ unless you want them! All the best in what you decided is best for you.

*Hugs*
~ Moon ~

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Well, to me it feels unfinished, but I can’t tell whether that’s the truth or just delusion. He told me when I was there last, that my first trip to see him back in December, (after he’d been trying to get me to come see him for so long) was in his mind a “make it or break it” trip. He told me that after the first two nights I stayed there he was like, “is it really this easy?” And was so excited. But then when I left early and he felt like I didn’t reach out, he told himself that I’d never truly reciprocate how he felt about me, and decided to cut it off. He said it was extremely difficult to do that. That he never lost feelings for me, but lost the belief in the romantic love story that it could be.

Then when I showed up at his door, I mean he was just thrilled. It was all back to normal. He wanted to continue talking. And I don’t know whether he began to overthink again or that he can’t get past his original “make it or break it” idea, but his tone changed and he was not as chatty and seemed distant. And then boom, I get that message saying it’s over. That he doesn’t feel the same way he did in December. He sounded so angry. I don’t know, it was so strange.

I don’t know. It’s all up in limbo for me. I had plans to move to his city this summer, and now I don’t know where to move. I know I want to move regardless—I’ve been trying to leave my current city for almost 4 years now—but I don’t know where to go. I do have friends in the city he lives, it’s a big city and I’ve considered moving there in the past. But if I move there I don’t want him to think I’m a crazy person lol. I of course wouldn’t tell him I was moving there. I’d let fate let us cross paths if it is so meant to be, but I would not force it to happen like I did last time.

posted February 09, 2021 01:32 PM            

I may be feeling your energy "unfinished business" ~ delusion is possible too. It is your feelings I read - with/without the cards.
Do you know where Neptune is in terms of transits now for you? Perhaps you are so excited to, just leave the home you now are at (city), that you were too eager to run to romance?
Maybe he wants to take it slow as you said, he changed somewhat. Maybe he felt the turn around brought him pressure?

re your moving, love etc don't set your life's investments (energies) on any reading, - even astrology. These are probabilities that anything can chage with. True some answers can be dead on ~ others cold wrong. Life's, little forks in our roads (take this road, that .. this decision, not that) can turn the results around. If we go into a goal, idea, dream with doubt or hesitation (less committed, like fingers crossed behind back) ~ we nullify the offer from Divine what might be. (Mutable intent gets us nada) Which the offer with him is not necessarily finished.
What if you did move to that city and plan to reunite as friends. Then let it take a natural turn back to that kiss - in comfortable time for you both? ? Let things build beautifully, not like a overnight success, more like a well nurtured garden. Blooming with so much possibility! See if going slow will work (if this was the issue) out after this heart racing encounter.
~ Only you will know. give it time and communicate with him. Don't read between the lines .. get to know his dreams too. *however if he has no more interest, release your energy. Talk with the Divine and be OPEN to new!

** I see this doesn't have to be over - unless he's married, decided he's into men or something very big has happened on his end. If he means a lot to you - find out why ~ if it must be done.

As well you asked about Soul Contracts + true love. Sweetie, they aren't always combined. This was your case. It happens sometimes, not all. (You are learning from this too. Contracts are not akways happily ever after - few are in fact) You get to be the architect of your own "True love story"!

posted February 10, 2021 12:44 PM            

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MonteCristo ~

I may be feeling your energy "unfinished business" ~ delusion is possible too. It is your feelings I read - with/without the cards.
Do you know where Neptune is in terms of transits now for you? Perhaps you are so excited to, just leave the home you now are at (city), that you were too eager to run to romance?
Maybe he wants to [b]take it slow as you said, he changed somewhat. Maybe he felt the turn around brought him pressure?

re your moving, love etc don't set your life's investments (energies) on any reading, - even astrology. These are probabilities that anything can chage with. True some answers can be dead on ~ others cold wrong. Life's, little forks in our roads (take this road, that .. this decision, not that) can turn the results around. If we go into a goal, idea, dream with doubt or hesitation (less committed, like fingers crossed behind back) ~ we nullify the offer from Divine what might be. (Mutable intent gets us nada) Which the offer with him is not necessarily finished.
What if you did move to that city and plan to reunite as friends. Then let it take a natural turn back to that kiss - in comfortable time for you both? ? Let things build beautifully, not like a overnight success, more like a well nurtured garden. Blooming with so much possibility! See if going slow will work (if this was the issue) out after this heart racing encounter.
~ Only you will know. give it time and communicate with him. Don't read between the lines .. get to know his dreams too. *however if he has no more interest, release your energy. Talk with the Divine and be OPEN to new!

** I see this doesn't have to be over - unless he's married, decided he's into men or something very big has happened on his end. If he means a lot to you - find out why ~ if it must be done.

As well you asked about Soul Contracts + true love. Sweetie, they aren't always combined. This was your case. It happens sometimes, not all. (You are learning from this too. Contracts are not akways happily ever after - few are in fact) You get to be the architect of your own "True love story"!

Pls don't put too much precedence on the readings. When they work, enjoy them - allow room for life to happen, w/o fully knowing all. Divine has you. You need to keep the faith. Be positive. Open to love - every wrinkle does not mean The End .. ♥️♥️♥️[/B]

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Hi Moon,

I think my mind literally always plays devil's advocate with itself--I'll feel that one thing is true, but then I talk myself out of truly believing it. Perhaps that has sabotaged me in the past. I still feel that it isn't over with him, because I know the love is there on his part. But he is extremely hard-headed and fixed in his perceptions--and I think the more he thought about it after I left, the more he went back to his original thought that if that weekend in December didn't "make it", then he had to "break it". Not sure how one can deny their feelings like that in favor of self-protection, but alas, we are all different.
And then I think...okay, maybe I'm delusional. Maybe the guy just doesn't like me!
But then I remember... his face, his heartbeat, his demeanor when I was there....if you'd seen us together you'd have been like, man, these kids are obsessed with each other 😂 there's no way he lost his feelings for me, he's just guarded and in a mode of self-preservation. And it wasn't going too fast for him. Two years ago, After only a week of knowing each other, he told me he got a job offer (in the current city he is in) and asked me if he should take it or stay. I was like WHOA there, I've known you a week. He came on quite strong, but he told me later that it's because he was sure about me. He would always tell me that one day, he was just banking on the fact that I'd finally agree to marry him. I asked him, "Have you always wanted to get married so badly?" And he said, "Nope. I'm actually terrified of marriage. But you're the only girl I've never gotten tired of and the only one who is my match." What happened to all that!

Oh well. It's up to the divine what is to happen now. I may move there, I may not. I'm leaning towards yes, because it's a growing, bustling city and has many professional, young people there. Even if I'm not meant to be with him (which is hard for me to imagine), perhaps I'll meet with love there. But I am ready for a big change!

posted February 16, 2021 07:28 PM            

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Originally posted by MonteCristo:
Hi Moon,

I think my mind literally always plays devil's advocate with itself--I'll feel that one thing is true, but then I talk myself out of truly believing it. Perhaps that has sabotaged me in the past. I still feel that it isn't over with him, because I know the love is there on his part. But he is extremely hard-headed and fixed in his perceptions--and I think the more he thought about it after I left, the more he went back to his original thought that if that weekend in December didn't "make it", then he had to "break it". Not sure how one can deny their feelings like that in favor of self-protection, but alas, we are all different.
And then I think...okay, maybe I'm delusional. Maybe the guy just doesn't like me!
But then I remember... his face, his heartbeat, his demeanor when I was there....if you'd seen us together you'd have been like, man, these kids are obsessed with each other 😂 there's no way he lost his feelings for me, he's just guarded and in a mode of self-preservation. And it wasn't going too fast for him. Two years ago, After only a week of knowing each other, he told me he got a job offer (in the current city he is in) and asked me if he should take it or stay. I was like WHOA there, I've known you a week. He came on quite strong, but he told me later that it's because he was sure about me. He would always tell me that one day, he was just banking on the fact that I'd finally agree to marry him. I asked him, "Have you always wanted to get married so badly?" And he said, "Nope. I'm actually terrified of marriage. But you're the only girl I've never gotten tired of and the only one who is my match." What happened to all that!

Oh well. It's up to the divine what is to happen now. I may move there, I may not. I'm leaning towards yes, because it's a growing, bustling city and has many professional, young people there. Even if I'm not meant to be with him (which is hard for me to imagine), perhaps I'll meet with love there. But I am ready for a big change!

You asked about Neptune...you're going to laugh 😂 It's been in the 5th house for the past 9 years or so. Yes, I romanticize, and I'm a romantic at heart, with all that leo in my chart. However, it is about 2 degrees away from entering the 6th, so hopefully the rose-colored glasses theme will end. Although, I feel I've always looked at love through those glasses--is there any other way? You love all parts of someone. I love even his deep, dark, insecure parts.
My Uranus has been in the 7th house for the past 6 years, too, and it will be OUT IN 2 MONTHS, thank the lord lol. I wil have Sun and Venus in 5th house this spring, and Jupiter enters 5th house, too. So, hopefully some happy times ahead Either way, I will remain grateful to the universe and all that it has given me, and with all that it has blessed me with, I will try to bless others, too.
You're so sweet for helping me and reading through my long, babbling posts. I really, really appreciate you. I wish there was a way that I could return the favor, but I do not have skills in tarot or astrology, only just a beginners knowledge. But, I am going to perform some random acts of kindness in your honor, and perhaps, those acts wil reverberate through the universe and reach you, and random acts of kindness will be returned to you by others, hopefully with much delight and joy on your part!

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Hello MC -
I wouldn't say you sabotaged anything. I did skim your mention on the other thread re his transits. That could well be in part as *how he's reacted. Re his thinking, you came only after, as in when "absent, the heart grew fonder". Actually your pairing might fit a "twin flame" dynamic. runner/chaser. He's quick to deny the authenticity of your feelings for him.
You mentioned his "scorpio" energy too. Could he be afraid, that with you he is far more intense. Perhaps he's afraid to allow himself to get immersed in that energy. Fear of scaring "you" if it isn't he already is scared. Idk I had a couple Scorpio bfs once. There was a lot of push/pull. It was stemmed at that (think like spiderman, Peter Parker) "what if she sees, thinks, realizes this about me?" Scorpio men really are deep and vulnerable. Could you have opened the bottle on those dark areas, he wishes to leave in secret. (not an evil reason, just uncertain how your perception of him could change) ~ So he won't feel vulnerable? As yoy said ^ "he's just guarded and in a mode of self-preservation." ~ Yes!
You were safe to him when he chased you. Unrelenting until state lines had seperated you.

I like your plan "going with the flow". I mean with Neptune being involved and tr Uranus swaping houses before long, the connection may also feel different too. His and your transits should be studied.
Idk if you ever got Stoika, Graham or Todd to look. You could put them here too. If you wanted me to look. I think you're pretty good at understanding them though. Just living, as you said, in flow. Everything naturally treated brings a better comprehension to you both to decide your feelings for one another.

posted February 16, 2021 09:37 PM            

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Hello MC -
I wouldn't say you sabotaged anything. I did skim your mention on the other thread re his transits. That could well be in part as *how he's reacted. Re his thinking, you came only after, as in when "absent, the heart grew fonder". Actually your pairing might fit a "twin flame" dynamic. runner/chaser. He's quick to deny the authenticity of your feelings for him.
You mentioned his "scorpio" energy too. Could he be afraid, that with you he is far more intense. Perhaps he's afraid to allow himself to get immersed in that energy. Fear of scaring "you" if it isn't he already is scared. Idk I had a couple Scorpio bfs once. There was a lot of push/pull. It was stemmed at that (think like spiderman, Peter Parker) "what if she sees, thinks, realizes this about me?" Scorpio men really are deep and vulnerable. Could you have opened the bottle on those dark areas, he wishes to leave in secret. (not an evil reason, just uncertain how your perception of him could change) ~ So he won't feel vulnerable? As yoy said ^ "he's just guarded and in a mode of self-preservation." ~ Yes!
You were safe to him when he chased you. Unrelenting until state lines had seperated you.

I like your plan "going with the flow". I mean with Neptune being involved and tr Uranus swaping houses before long, the connection may also [b] feel different too. His and your transits should be studied.
Idk if you ever got Stoika, Graham or Todd to look. You could put them here too. If you wanted me to look. I think you're pretty good at understanding them though. Just living, as you said, in flow. Everything naturally treated brings a better comprehension to you both to decide your feelings for one another.

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Hi Moon.

I think with him it really was the thought that, he put in so much effort, for so long, and then felt that I would never reciprocate to that level, so he decided to cut it off before he got hurt further. This is what he told me when I was at his house a few weeks ago. He said his feelings never went away, and that letting me go was not an easy feat.
I actually read to him from my diary, all the entries about him, and the entires about falling in love with him before I even went on that first trip in December. He was shocked and mesmerized when I read that. That's when he shed the tears. I am not sure what made him change his mind after I left. Perhaps his friends made him doubt me. Perhaps they made him doubt the contents of that diary. Perhaps he never even told them, but overthought and overanalyzed, as he does. But he came back, cold as ever, when only days prior I had seen his face light up at the realization that I really did love him all along. He even said, "I'm glad I was wrong." I mean, who holds someone for 3 hours and doesn't let them go, if they don't have any feelings? I really wonder what happened on that ski trip.

What is the difference between a twin flame, a soul union, a karmic contract, and a soulmate? Are they all the same thing?

posted February 16, 2021 09:44 PM            

Here are his

posted February 16, 2021 10:24 PM            

As I said before, I sensed this was a bro love   kind of thing. Maybe they dis persuade him against you. Why? My guess is jealousy.  Of him having someone love him that much and of you ~ ruining what those dynamics they as guys share. Maybe their esteenis thst low. Hopefully if it is the case - he wakes up to it. Your plan is truly the best. Just move there if you plan to for you and live your life, with no expectations of him, unless somrthing occurs to get a fresh start going.

posted February 16, 2021 11:59 PM            

My first look is @His chart ~
natal Mars + Mercury are trine the transit Neptune. (thinking/desire, drive activated by tr Neptune).Which fantasty , self deceptive thinking can be filling his thoughts or he's fighting them in his trine. Depending upon his philosophy,  religion or beliefs, this could be his thinking differently so suddenly (his Neptune/ Uranus  are intricate within him).  Depending on how powerful his passion is to those 9th house areas (university  is brotherhoods as well) - could he have committed in some way to a brotherhood?

The tr Neptune energy will bring him loss in his focus with higher learning. I see the Mars in his chart may create some competitiveness between his need to learn and use of his body. (skiing) Trips and long travels are highlighted in this period. What if he has a trip scheduled (if he's not blocked by "c" regulations).Something he might be away for for an expended time.

 - I don't believe Saturn tr his 7th is a benefit (with you both coming into union of love) but get this. -  Saturn to the 7th can bring "detachment "
  http://astroligion.com/saturn-in-7th-house/
That could have been a start but his friends are involved in his life/free time you said. 7th is here his Mercury is at in retrog.!  He's uncertain of his thoughts, adding Neptune.

His natal  Neptune and Uranus are tight ~ sabian symbol:
"A Hidden Choir Is Singing During A Religious Service"

 Does he have a Scholarly, Philosophical or theological background  or interests?

Ok .. I'll be very honest. If he's showing attachment yet stating he can't be together, this is a lengthy period (his transit Saturn) . As Saturn is a karmic, time and lesson bringer/taker.
His Saturn in tr now supports someone less inclined to try. Looking at his natal Saturn, he could carry insecurity that makes him doubt himself. These friends,  I do feel could build up anxiety for him.

- his 24 deg Saturn Sabian Symbol is here: (you bump up one deg with these) http://mindfire.ca/An%20Astrological%20Mandala/An%20Astrological%20%20 Mandala%20-%20Aquarius%2016-30.htm

If you were to give it a go again, it might not go well. Love does go through trials of the heart for some. Yet both have to put effort, passion and heart in - do you feel that his arms were telling you he had that to offer?
 I can look yours over too and I stick by saying others might bring much more light to these transits. 

PS .. Wth I'm going to tell you my last love that was a Scorpio Sun. I met him before Valentine's day. My close friend was pressured by her dad to go out with his coworker, he thought she was lonely, during Valentine's day. My friend had another guy her dad didn't know of and this guy she was set up with, didn't take to her anyway. She/I worked together, he had taken her out and was, as she told me rude. I think she was mad, though not interested in him, due to her secret guy.
I had built up that reluctance of niceties when he came by to apologize to her at our wk. I was cold to begin. She excepted his apology and he looked over at me saying he was sorry. As I was 2 years older, I felt protective. But knew they weren't into one another. He didn't know of my friend's other guy either. She guarded that so her dad wouldn't know. Long story short we began a hawt push/pull thing. He started sending me lunch from a spendy restaurant, calling me@ wk, coming in and loitering, until I agreed to date him. Now this guy was handsome. Very (drool) hawt. I'm gonna cut our lovestory out - because we had one after this. The end was very random, he held me so long in the end looked long into my eyes and told me "never would he feel again as he did with me". Ran knto him once aftdrwards, that embrace was lengthy on a rainy night in the middle of traffic.
His s- esteem is what in the end I believe caused our final page of our story. Your telling me of that3 hours reminded of my last Scorpio Sun. They love strongly and fear it intensely. Being an Aqua ~ nothing came close to that magic.
I had in my teens went to hs with his BIL, (in my 20s here) one day ran into him. He said my former guy was back to dating girls that were, tbh in differnt words were used by him, I'll say were narcissists. Very bad for him. Been a long time- I very much hope he broke that bad programming.

posted February 17, 2021 12:38 AM            

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 Was Mercury in pre shadow (Jan 15 - 29) or the sr 1/30? time on  when you last spoke? http://www.astrologyhoroscopereadings.com/2021-mercury-retrograde-calendar.html

My first look is @His chart ~
natal Mars + Mercury are trine the transit Neptune. (thinking/desire, drive activated by tr Neptune).Which fantasty , self deceptive thinking can be filling his thoughts or he's fighting them in his trine. Depending upon his philosophy,  religion or beliefs, this could be his thinking differently so suddenly (his Neptune/ Uranus  are intricate within him).  Depending on how powerful his passion is to those 9th house areas (university  is brotherhoods as well) - could he have committed in some way to a brotherhood?

The tr Neptune energy will bring him loss in his focus with higher learning. I see the Mars in his chart may create some competitiveness between his need to learn and use of his body. (skiing) Trips and long travels are highlighted in this period. What if he has a trip scheduled (if he's not blocked by "c" regulations).Something he might be away for for an expended time.

 - I don't believe Saturn tr his 7th is a benefit (with you both coming into union of love) but get this. -  Saturn to the 7th can bring "detachment "
  http://astroligion.com/saturn-in-7th-house/
That could have been a start but his friends are involved in his life/free time you said. 7th is here his Mercury is at in retrog.!  He's uncertain of his thoughts, adding Neptune.

His natal  Neptune and Uranus are tight ~ sabian symbol:
"A Hidden Choir Is Singing During A Religious Service"

 Does he have a Scholarly, Philosophical or theological background  or interests?

Ok .. I'll be very honest. If he's showing attachment yet stating he can't be together, this is a lengthy period (his transit Saturn) . As Saturn is a karmic, time and lesson bringer/taker.
His Saturn in tr now supports someone less inclined to try. Looking at his natal Saturn, he could carry insecurity that makes him doubt himself. These friends,  I do feel could build up anxiety for him.

- his 24 deg Saturn Sabian Symbol is here: (you bump up one deg with these) http://mindfire.ca/An%20Astrological%20Mandala/An%20Astrological%20%20 Mandala%20-%20Aquarius%2016-30.htm

If you were to give it a go again, it might not go well. Love does go through trials of the heart for some. Yet both have to put effort, passion and heart in - do you feel that his arms were telling you he had that to offer?
 I can look yours over too and I stick by saying others might bring much more light to these transits. 

PS .. Wth I'm going to tell you my last love that was a Scorpio Sun. I met him before Valentine's day. My close friend was pressured by her dad to go out with his coworker, he thought she was lonely, during Valentine's day. My friend had another guy her dad didn't know of and this guy she was set up with, didn't take to her anyway. She/I worked together, he had taken her out and was, as she told me rude. I think she was mad, though not interested in him, due to her secret guy.
I had built up that reluctance of niceties when he came by to apologize to her at our wk. I was cold to begin. She excepted his apology and he looked over at me saying he was sorry. As I was 2 years older, I felt protective. But knew they weren't into one another. He didn't know of my friend's other guy either. She guarded that so her dad wouldn't know. Long story short we began a hawt push/pull thing. He started sending me lunch from a spendy restaurant, calling me@ wk, coming in and loitering, until I agreed to date him. Now this guy was handsome. Very (drool) hawt. I'm gonna cut our lovestory out - because we had one after this. The end was very random, he held me so long in the end looked long into my eyes and told me "never would he feel again as he did with me". Ran knto him once aftdrwards, that embrace was lengthy on a rainy night in the middle of traffic.
His s- esteem is what in the end I believe caused our final page of our story. Your telling me of that3 hours reminded of my last Scorpio Sun. They love strongly and fear it intensely. Being an Aqua ~ nothing came close to that magic.
I had in my teens went to hs with his BIL, (in my 20s here) one day ran into him. He said my former guy was back to dating girls that were, tbh in differnt words were used by him, I'll say were narcissists. Very bad for him. Been a long time- I very much hope he broke that bad programming.

~ Hope I didn't send you to Zzzzzs . lol

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When I saw him at his house it was Jan 26th, he reached out while on his trip on Jan 27, (shadow period) he was warm and friendly, then about an hour later I noticed the shift in tone. Then a lot of lack of communication, and then Feb 8th he said it's over. (retrograde). Perhaps you're right. Maybe it was the merc retrograde in his 7th that affected his decision, too. Unclear thinking, in house of relationships, with Saturn there too. Yikes.

He is very scholarly. He plans on getting his PhD in later years, once he "doesn't care about making money anymore". He's extremelllllllyyyyyyyy intelligent. One of the things that absolutely drew me to him from the very first day. He always said our minds "finally found their match" and that "we think on a different level than others". Ugh I miss his conversation. He does have a very good group of friends. They all seem wonderful and wholesome, except one who is a little belligerent. He caused a fight to break out last Halloween--it was the first time my guy and I had seen each other in 2 years, and he brought his friends to the halloween party. That one friend of his was antagonizing everyone and eventually a huge fight broke out. We never knew why. I showed my mom a group picture of all of us and she had this to say: "His friend was soooo jealous that he got to date you that he wanted to ruin it for him." Well, my mother herself is a scorpio lol (suspicious characters again!), and she's convinced everyone is in love with me 🙄. But I did get that vibe when I first met his friend, too. He was being a little too flirty. I of course put him down with a tactful joke, and even my guy had to jokingly say something to him. Anyway, not sure if that has anything to do with the current situation.

He is verrrrry competitive, yes. It was December 16th when he first decided that I would never reciprocate, and I think Saturn was right then passing over the DC for him. Perhaps he went back to the thought that, I shouldn't have left early, and if I really loved him that I wouldn't have done that. (Not sure if you remember that part of the story)

When I was in his arms, everything felt comfortable, right, easy. Like we hadn't skipped a beat. Even though I was there professing my love, it still seemed that he was "chasing" me. Our roles have always been very "traditional". He's comfortable being a man and acting like one; I'm by nature ultra feminine and enjoy being chased. I believe that's how it should be, and he feels the same. He was affectionate and attentive and almost aggressive in not wanting to let me leave. The smile on his face...I mean, I wish you could have seen it! Eyes were sparkling. We were like kids. Even right when he opened the door and I walked in. I thought it would be formal and awkward and uncomfortable. But we just stood in his entryway saying "hi" over and over and just grinning ear to ear It's like all the nervousness went away and I felt playful. As serious of a visit as it was, we still laughed and joked in between the heavy moments. He's such a serious person but his playful side comes out with me. I find him incredibly endearing. UGH.

I just know he feels the same. I know that none of that intensity went away. The more I think about it, the more I think that he just doesn't believe me. I've always told him that I would do anything for love. He said truly believes me when I say that. But, what if he thinks, that I came all the way there, read him that diary.... He never actually looked at my diary. What if he thinks I made it up? And if he thinks I'd do "anything" for love, I can see his suspicious nature perhaps thinking that I'm clever enough to pull a stunt like that. It makes me sort of laugh, because he's such a suspicious guy. So intense. I believe he thinks I can lie, because he lies. I've caught him in a few lies before--nothing bad, just little lies to impress me, or things of that nature. But I always know when he's lying. I never say anything, but inwardly I smile at it. His pluto touches all of my personal planets, but my pluto is almost exactly conjuct his sun, so I too can penetrate him as he does me. And the sad thing is is that I have been 100% open and raw and honest with him. I've never been this open with anyone in my entire life.
Maybe he thinks it's too good to be true? Because I was SO closed off before. He told me months ago, "I've never seen anyone fight feelings more than you." And to have me now literally flying across the country, professing my love...it's a big jump from what I showed him before. HUGE. I was very coy and guarded before. So perhaps all of this change makes him think I did in fact only love him after the fact. But it's not truuuueeeeee ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! I literally remember the moment I realized that I fell in love with him. I had an inkling that it was happening for a few weeks. But it was a november evening when I looked out my windows in the middle of the night, with the moon shining through the trees. And I KNEW. GAH. I'm blabbing again. Sorry. I just wish that he would open his eyes!!! Again, I think it's all up to the divine. If I do move there, it will be in August sometime. Hopefully he will have better transits then--and, who knows. The divine transcends astrology anyway. Also, I think my Uranus in 7th made others act out of character, too. So perhaps that was one of the effects of it. Making relationships unstable.

Your Scorpio sun sounds very mysterious. How was the ending random, if you don't mind me asking? And what is with scorpios and long embraces lol. Is that a common character trait among them? I've never actually dated a scorpio before until this. Were you upset when it was over? How long were you together? And have you seen or heard from him since? Scorpios just seem so tormented, internally. What sign is your husband? And no zzzzz's at all. I enjoy hearing things about you!

posted February 17, 2021 02:34 AM            

  I'm  curious if you feel this is his Uranus/ Neptune trine your moon?
Did you notice the 12th (yours) in that that trine too? You may feel him stronger yet he's receptive to it. Like you activate these energies in his company. He can't help the connection it is magnetic in a way. Scorps need that.

  Had there been mention yet re His trine of Chiron/your Neptune
h2 and h3  btw your tendencies of romance aren't felt much from  him from your natal (I'll dig further though - after). Unfortunately Saturn ruling your Neptune is practical.  However you both are mentally connected .. he very much feels that attraction with you.  Your Leo Mercury is aspect with his 2nd H(values)
house cusp. Hence your creative high mind intrigues him. He finds it a value.  Especially since this guy from your desc and most Scorpios aren't pretentious.  I find H2 is NOT only about money. Noone cares - but it's anything we value.  A huge photo collection,  which cost most in time and energy could be someones values.  Someones kids .. you know. So he's highly intellectual,  I feel the 2/10 connection for you is meaningful. (your 10th).

A nice Fire trine between both your NNs.

~

Your Mother was right. I feel an annoyance from one maybe two friends of his.
I need to study the charts more. I'll add a little at a time.

posted February 17, 2021 11:56 AM            

Perhaps his Neptune/Uranus trine Moon is what we feel. And I never thought to include 12th house in this, since there are no planets there 🤔 Maybe that’s why it felt “timeless and ageless” as he always said. It did feel otherworldly. He said our souls came from the same place.

Here’s the synastry: lots of difficult aspects, but I feel there are so many good things, too. Angles conjunct, planets in 1st and 2nd houses.

posted February 17, 2021 01:37 PM            

 I feel reading the midpoints help often. Can you draw both the natal mp and together progressed mp?  As you've each outgrown some parts of the natal, it is your core but you'll stretch from one version to the other.  I feel our shadow sides are somewhat that child within that goes into the "safe place" which often as we go on the path of life > a dark unknown path the progressed and the known (like a child's blankie) the natal. Tried but true. Vulnerable ones will have difficulty in the progressed, speaking as a fixed sign - that's  me. Likely him too. Because he's  fixed. Oh and although his Pluto (that cnj Mercury  too) is far from his Sun, I feel that Pluto actually in Scorpio,  he's a card carrying Scorpio. That's intense energy in his 4/5th.

  Yes, his Venus is cnj your asc, obv the physical attraction~ love, physical sense is def implied there.
I emphasized the mind/mental side because you stated his genius status. Some guys aren't reached easily who are of that type, you have the best of both with your together energy.

I noticed that the tr Sun recently was activating the Vesta in his chart. He might have part that nudging within, "what were you thinking?"  That is the home fire energy, the woman keeping the home fire. He might have legitimate worries you weren't  serious. The union to him is powerful. I say that because he magnifies his ferling, he feels they need absolution in matching. He need to not feel insecure they won't.
I fully agree, my personal side is as yours. Old fashion. Letting the guy be the knight/King and myself the Lady/maiden/queen.
As you described, pretty much is natural to many of us. Depending on bgs and cultivation (programs). That's true romance - possibly an older program. lol

re my past love of that one Scorpio Sun.
He was a mysterious type, yet with me the sheilds came way down. We ended because we both came together when neither of us was truly free - led to the end.
Not married but not free.  My then bf I had moved away from and had been cutting him from my life when I met my Scorpio.  We had magic because Beauty and the Beast was our little secret. It was like Belle & Beast. He transformed with me. We never got to be fully intimate.  It ended too soon, his connection to the past wouldn't let him free (in reality or his mind). We were intense. He decided to stay with his bad rs but that old adage,  "the Devil you know". 
 I had heard from my friend sometime after that yes, his dad said he (my guy) was still with this same girl and miserable  - still. Her dad did eventually (before we broke up) learn the truth about her bf and me being the one that my guy was with. I was like family to her fam so he was ok. He told me (her dad),  my guy came to work happy when we were together. He was mopey and moody after. Worse than before we met. He crossed my mind when we burned here. His town burnt. I know he has to be ok but my heart ached. Yes, that was hard to heal from ~ the ending.

My hubby is cancer Sun. We are not intense. I feel he hasn't the fixed energy. That FE is reason to give intensity.  My former fiancé from childhood to young adulthood,  was Cancer Sun with Scorpio Moon. Same powerful energy as the Scorp Sun.  Attraction and magnetism with both, off the charts. My hubby is passionate via his Aries Moon but I'm  more Pluto receptiveit seems. I adore my hubby but we are going through something lately.  idk changing but love is more mundane.  Which even a Scorpio could become mudane in time, I suppose.  it's a time thing. Growing older. lol
I do feel my energy as it's triple fixed was magnetic on several past loves, as they used to be as pulled to me. The FE is the intense element, similar with Pluto.

~ I'll  bb in awhile, I'll look over more of al these charts and maybe you can add those other charts.

posted February 17, 2021 07:13 PM            

Doing okay today. Sort of feeling down bc I just realized how patient I’m going to have to be—all with no promise of anything! Ahhh. Oh well. What can I do.

I didn’t realize fixed energy is what was the intense part. It makes sense, though. I’ve always gotten along with fixed energy best, now that I think about it. And yes, time does change love, it evolves so it seems. Maybe doing something “new” with your hubby can ignite a spark again. Or just even a date night! Dressing up and having a romantic dinner, just the two of you, can sometimes work magic back into a relationship. It’s so easy to get bogged down by everyday, mundane matters.

Were you in your teens when you met your Scorpio?

Here are our midpoint and progressed midpoint:

Natal MP:

Progressed MP:

I’m just hoping that whatever it is blocking his mind and interfering, goes away with time. Hopefully in a few months. Why does this have to be so difficult! If only we could have the chance to just be in the same place, and be ourselves. We get along so well...there’d be no denying the connection. UGH!!!

posted February 17, 2021 07:39 PM            

MC the aspects I see are below. I might catch more . It does seem really mysterious how this might happen, outside looking forward to Mercury rx to clear out. 3/19 on.

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with the midpoints
The fixed Moon+Pluto would bring passion, emotion. In your communication and spirit/ theological thinking.  It could be combative too. All dep on nature if interests you share/discuss and transit energies too.
NN looks nice but Saturn keeps coming to the party. (it is cardinal and more serious minded cohesive enegy)  tr Pluto there too.

 With the Uranus/Moon trine, curious if you two have a telepathic connection maybe you've not recognized?

Your (now combined) energies in mp ~
These houses are packed! Values (income), home. 5, 7 and 8 are quiet.
tr Jupiter being in 5th is a blessing. Certainly if you two make up and decide on a LT bond (children).

Jupiter in transit might offer benefic qualities.  There's the cnj here in the 4th.

Venus in Libra 2nd (finances and love) Pretty nice place fir her in a MP!

Intimacy would be lit with the previous mentioned 5th transits and Venus/Mars cnj.
Mercury/Mars snug on cusp of Scorpio.

Uranus  is cardinal in this with Neptune, he might feel a mental and physical connection during this new energy you share.

Re hubby + I. We are happy. It's going to be after c19 for us. Everything here has been in a perpetual "forever merc retrog."
You mentioned the hugs of Scorpio men. I had 2 Sun Scorpio bfs, one Moon and they all asserted themselves to me passionately. As though their last moments would be with me.
The Moon was most insecure imo. His letters to me were like something from Romeo + Juliet.The hugs (goodbyes, general ones) were strong, powerful and lengthy. To feel me in their arms was intense. Some actors I've seen carried that passion. Also they are very tactile. Sensory is significant to Scorpio. Eyes, engaging in long, deep intense eye > eye gazing. Gads ~ hope I don't sound like a nutter. Lastly - they are fun!

~ took an (online) snow detour and am thinking of getting a slippery look out there for real. I'll try to get more looking soon.

I'll be adding to this
- I'll be mulling over some thoughts. On Thursday I'll writeyou a longer response.
I do see it might be a "time" thing. Mercury +Saturn have you in waiting. Only thing
I think might help is to keep preoccupied, cultivate "you" in this time of waiting. In all seriousness, both of you are still growing to those people you'll be as wiser. My Scorpio guy I shared with you was from my 23rd year. Idk if your near that. Your guy, to me, does very much care (love) you. Sometimes it's not so easy.

Find something silly to lose yourself in while Mercury rx is causing your stall. I'll look the charts over further tomorrow. I have already a few notes here .. take care MC - talk with you soon.

posted February 18, 2021 03:00 AM            

 I'll  leave it here until later Thursday.
  ~ Moon ~

posted February 18, 2021 01:08 PM            

I'm glad to hear you and yours are happy As it should be. And that scorpio gaze--you aren't kidding! At times I used to tell him, when he was in the middle of just STARING at me, I'd go, "WHAT?!" And I'd make a ridiculous face at him and he'd laugh They really are such intense people.

I do feel that he loves me, too. I have of course considered the possibility that he doesn't, but too many actions/words/signs from him show me that he does. My rational mind wants to say, "just take the hint, he says it's over," but do we just forget all about intuition? I just hope that he can awaken himself to the fact that I did love him before he left, not only after. That is the only thing holding him back. If he feels he cannot be loved, (and that it took him leaving in order for me to realize how special he was to me), then he will be gone forever, I'm afraid. He gets into his own head. It's only upon seeing me that he feels that I am speaking the truth. It's when we are away, and he overanalyzes and doubts and fears, that he pulls away. Well. Serves me right. I tortured the man for years. Who knows, perhaps this was a necessary thing; maybe it's helping us grow (I know it's helping me grow for sure). Maybe it's the catalyst for other things to happen that need to happen. Maybe after we each become stronger through this, the universe will unite us. I know there's a possibility it won't. But I'm not going to believe that! I believe in true love, and romance, and magic, and I know he does, too. And isn't life magic itself?!

I also don't expect to be in touch with him until I move. That's going to be in August or after. I literally have done all I can. If I keep reaching out, it will legitimately be stalker status I showed up at his door, I poured my heart out--he believed me, and he shined, and we came together for a short time--only for him to doubt me once again and retreat. I will do everything I can to better myself, to grow, to have faith and to trust the divine. Once I move, if the universe delights in us coming together, I think it will pave the way for that. If not, then I have to accept that there is someone else out there for me. Hard to imagine HOW or WHO that could ever be because I just really feel like he was my perfect match, and I've never felt that way about anyone before....but we don't know how the universe works and we aren't supposed to. So I will trust it.

The houses ARE packed, aren't they?! There is a very strong emotional/mental/physical connection, that's for sure. When we are around each other we cannot NOT be touching haha. It feels very "at home" with him. I think perhaps my mind always surprises/shocks him. Some of the things I say he just straight up goes, "what?!" and laughs and then we excitedly talk and talk. He always says he could never be bored of me. To be honest, sometimes I feel that way, too my mind baffles even me at times. Sometimes I'll say something and I'm like, whereeeee did that even come from!?

As for the telepathic connection...I'm not sure? Maybe not now, because he has closed himself off. But before, he'd always text me RIGHT when I'd open up my phone to see if he had messaged me. And we knew what the other was going to say--could almost word for word spit out each others' thoughts. It was uncanny.

As for the tarot cards with the astrology---how does that work? I am unfamiliar with it. I know he and I are in a place of non-communication and separation. But I hope that that changes once I live in the same city as he does. Ahhhhhh!

And of course, I'd love for you to do another reading. Do you need me to ask specific questions?

posted February 20, 2021 05:14 PM            

 Sorry for my delay in responding. How are you?
He might not be aware of his feelings, due to his Neptune  but when you've been with him, it does seem he's receptive and feels it. That "pinch me am I dreaming" meme is how he is with you.

  Good idea regarding the communication.  Let him realise your life isn't centric to him only. He'll find you more mysterious.  A way to surely keep him intrigued!
The Divine is the one element that has all the keys. Just talk with it frequently,  addressing your interst, wishes etc. You'll find answers.

  Your energies remind me of that old term from Jerry Maguire  "You complete me". As though you two are each others missing link. Never being bored with eachother, could very much bring a satisfying union. Unless you both enjoy solitude  "within" a pairing.
Some do well that way too.

 The tarot cards, I was asking if you'd like me to read on particular energies in your synastry or midpoints?

You tell me which areas you'd like to hear more of.

posted March 10, 2021 06:30 PM            

Wow I’m late to the game! Sorry for the late reply—

Update:

I’ve deleted his number and am moving on! I feel very happy and energetic! I don’t even feel the need to hang on anymore. I say, if love stares you in the face and you don’t jump at the chance, well it sucks to be you

Thank you so much for your help. I was really in a dark place, and your words and encouragement were something that truly truly helped me, whether you know it or not. So thank you! I’m grateful now to be out of that tormenting phase. Onwards and upwards to more LIFE ♥️