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msrandomorangee
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posted August 23, 2021 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for msrandomorangee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My almost 2.5 year old toddler is still not talking. I know he will hopefully. I just wanted your thoughts on his chart.

Here is his chart: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hg_3crGAxoLJipMkrdc9M2VH9gh1CGPr/view?usp=drivesdk

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posted August 24, 2021 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 24, 2021 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msrandomorangee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Randall,

Are you facing the same with your kid? I would like to know your thoughts about his chart.

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posted August 26, 2021 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Msrandomorangee,
I've been studying your little boy's chart.

Questions first..
Are you raising him by yourself, as a single?
How involved is his father? Does he play with him often?

Do you live alone in your own place?
Or, are you in a living situation with others?
.. With a group? With his grandparents?

Do you work in the home, and take care of him without anyone else there?
Or, is he placed in someone else's care during your working hours?

Does he make eye contact and communicate using nonverbal ways?

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posted August 27, 2021 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for msrandomorangee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mirage,

Thank you so much for your reply. Here are my answers to your questions.

Are you raising him by yourself, as a single?
No, my husband and I are raising him together. My mom is helping out as well.

How involved is his father? Does he play with him often?
His father picks him up from daycare, plays with him as much as he can. However, he is usually quite tired after work and can’t always be as hands-on as he would like. That’s where my mom and I step in.

Do you live alone in your own place?
No, I live with my mom and my husband. But yes, up until this year, it was mostly my son and me as my husband would go to work. Then covid happened and we all worked from home.

Or, are you in a living situation with others?
My mom is staying with as she recently got widowed. She takes care of him as much as she can.

.. With a group? With his grandparents?
Yup with his maternal grandmother.

Do you work in the home, and take care of him without anyone else there?
This was pretty much the situation until 9 months, then he went to daycare very briefly. At 10 months, covid happened and everything shut down. Then my husband and I worked from home. It was very hard taking care of him and doing my work. But we still managed.

Or, is he placed in someone else's care during your working hours?
Yes, he goes to a daycare cause it was suggested that it would help with his speech. He loves daycare. After he comes back, my mom, husband and me take care of him.

Does he make eye contact and communicate using nonverbal ways?
Yes he does make eye contact, mimics other kids, and can communicate non verbally; not always though. We recently just found out he could be having hearing issues since he responds to noises and music but not speech. He will have a hearing test, soon.

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posted August 27, 2021 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!

So I'm not an expert (in astrology or early child development) so take what I say with a massive grain of salt.

What I'm getting is that your child, in spite of this speech delay, is actually quite intelligent and sophisticated. Would you say that his motorskills are advanced for his age - so maybe he was able to walk sooner than most babies, has a refined ability to hold onto utensils and use them properly, seems to understand what adults are trying to communicate to him in spite of the fact he isn't using verbal language yet?

I get the impression that maybe everything else about your son has advanced at a rapid rate so that some basic thing had to fall along the wayside while other things developed, perhaps?

I feel like your son must be highly intelligent because his Sun is conjunct Uranus, and Uranus is seen as the "higher octave" of Mercury, which means Uranus can be a very ingenious, forward thinking planet and it is conjunct his Sun, so the core of his identity. Furthermore, the Sun is his chart ruler, Uranus is the ruler of his DSC/Moon, so there is something rather brilliant about your son I'd say, maybe if you don't notice it now, it will be noticeable down the line as he further develops into a child and out of the toddler stage.

I will say though, his Mercury is a little afflicted. Mercury is our intelligence, our gift of gab, and it is in a loose square with Saturn (delays) and Pluto (transformation). So his speech (Mercury) is being stagnated (Saturn) perhaps for a reason that is critical/pivotal/transformative for his identity (Pluto) and that is why he is having a delay when compared to his peers. Actually I just noticed Mercury is loosely square his Nodes as well.. so I honestly couldn't even tell you what that means in this specific context but he was destined to have people look very closely at his intelligence/mind at a young age for sure.

Saturn and Pluto are conjunct his South Node... forming a loose t-square with Mercury. Hmmmm. I need to give this a think before I unpack it.

Do you and your husband use baby sign language with your son? If so, does he respond extremely well to it?

If you guys do not use baby sign language yet, I highly recommend it. That way it will be easier to understand your sons needs while he catches up with his speech.

He has Jupiter in the 5th, Moon in the 7th, Venus in the 9th, Mars in the 11th. Big, benefic planets in very social houses. I think that he will speak eventually?

If Mars is considered our physical "body" (or our developments - such as athleticism, other body skills, etc), his is opposite Jupiter, forming a t-square with Neptune. So this is another challenge in his chart that could signify body/physical delays. I think with Jupiter in this configuration (and with Jupiter and Neptune being in their home signs) you may not have to worry for long.

Maybe he might speak sometime around May 2022 when transit Jupiter is conjunct his natal Neptune, hitting the apex of that t-square. That or you guys reach some major breakthrough with him.

Also it would probably help to get an appointment with a developmental pediatrician. They're experts at determining whether a kid is neurotypical or not. More generalist pediatricians can't always tell.

Also sometimes speech delays are related to fluid in the ears. See if he might need to get his tonsils and adenoids removed (this is sometimes necessary with certain delays in children)

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posted August 27, 2021 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
msrandomorangee,

Mercury is the planet of focus here because it holds the consciousness energy of mental process and communication.

Mercury in Aries is sextile to Moon in Aquarius and Mars in Gemini.

Mercury is also square to Saturn in the birth chart, which was intensified as a transit in the months following his birth.

Saturn went retrograde back tighter into the square starting 3 days after birth (April 30). The transit continued to tighten and passed exact in August. Then it was exact again in October after it went direct again. That transit lasted through the rest of 2019, and in the 6th house indicates a triggering health event or series of events.

So the question is what happened during that time — especially with things (6th house) that were supposedly healthy, health-based, or at the doctor?

Whatever it is, don't blame yourself. He was born with a close parallel of Saturn & Pluto, so there are/will be challenges that no parent could anticipate. The Saturn transit to natal Mercury, and the Pluto transit to natal Saturn have both passed, so whatever has lingered was triggered during 2019. During a good portion of that time the natal quincunx between Mars & Saturn tightened during Saturn's transit, further indicating something potentially interfering with his development / mobility.

He's nearly out of a transit of Neptune contra-parallel natal Mercury. So I think there's an opportunity for insight soon.

Anyone born with Mars square or opposite Neptune has potential for sensitivity and bad reactions to substances (food or drug).

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The Declinations Guy — I still do some astrology part-time (specialty: birth chart rectification), but my life mission is my new journal on Substack. Health Positive!

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posted August 27, 2021 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Msrandomorangee

Thanks for your very organized and detailed responses to my questions!

I asked you for that information in order to rule some things out-- narrow the field of focus.

I see now that two other people have jumped in. I've been digging into text books, including a medical astrology book I have.

The information and approach I'll have is somewhat different, and I hope what I offer will add to his life, and your understanding.


I'm tempted to just jump-in, but I'm going to finish one more thing I'm checking for him. I'm going further than just temporarily delayed speech.

What you said about Covid interfering with your lives (for the past going-on two years now) may be playing a factor in this! When he will be in a good routine, and regularly attending day school, he'll have lots of kids to play and interact with socially-- along with knowledgeable teacher and aids who will give him the (teaching professional) attention that brings him out verbally-- you may see this bringing a difference.

His Capricorn 6th House and Moon in Aquarius 7th, point at a vulnerability to catch childhood colds, and respiratory issues. With Capricorn, the child's health gets stronger as they age. What they used to call, "growing out of it." His Leo Ascendant is good and balances this out.


I'll be back with more.

_______________________________
Adding my story as a Mother

In the first year my child was born, we were at her pediatrician's office getting a check-up.

He was very experienced and observant. He said to me, She is the kind of child that will 'wait' before she does some of her milestones. He said she's the kind that will 'watch' as the other children in our Mommy Group will sit, stand, and wobble. That when SHE takes her steps, she'll skip all the 'trying' and step into actually 'walking'.
. .
I guess it was that she observed, then practiced it 'in her mind' until she had it down perfect! LOL Then, just 'walked'. ..yup.

Winds up that she had a genius IQ. 164 when they tested her.
I was shocked with what she could do on a computer as a young child. She instantly knew things, without needing to be taught (it seems).

You son might have a higher IQ like that?
He's only 2 and a half. Just wait.

Much Love!

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posted August 27, 2021 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oops. Forgot something that I wanted to mention in my above-post:

Condolences. I'm very sorry for the loss experienced in your family.
Your Mom's spouse.. a 'dad' figure is gone from your lives. Losing your marriage partner is a harsh devastating loss. She's still in mourning.

[*quote*]
Q: Do you live alone in your own place?
A: No, I live with my mom and my husband. But yes, up until this year, it was mostly my son and me as my husband would go to work. Then covid happened and we all worked from home.

Q: Or, are you in a living situation with others?
A: My mom is staying with as she recently got widowed. She takes care of him as much as she can.

[*end quote*]

Transiting Saturn entered your Son's
"7th House" of Relationships.
Feb 28 - Mar 2021.

7th House People include
'The Mother's family' (especially the maternal grandmother).

. .
Also, a Second Child;
the Third brother or sister.
Also pertains to Fine Arts.

Your Son having his Moon in the 7th House--
"indicates a person who is very responsive to other people's emotional needs."
{ref Alan Oken,
Houses of the Horoscope}

You, your husband, your Mom came to live together in more 'limited' quarters-- kind of less than ideal, during this Covid time.

'Saturn on the Moon and in The Moon's Sign' can correspond to losses. Your Son didn't really 'know' your Mother's husband-- She's his Grandmother; counts as a loss.


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For future reference
re: COVID 19
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic

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posted August 28, 2021 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I started researching for Toddler Speech Delay, I came across these websites, giving helpful information.

* Speech and Language Development
MC Mott Children's Hospital
University of Michigan Medicine
- http://www.mottchildren.org/posts/your-child/speech-and-language-development

* Language Delays in Toddlers
Information for Parents
- http://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/toddler/Pages/Language-Delay.aspx

* 8 Things to Know About Your TAURUS CHILD
- http://www.mom365.com/mom/astrology/all-about-your-taurus-childs-astrology

* 5 Speech Exercises for 4-6 Year Olds
by Mom360
- http://www.mom365.com/preschool/development/5-speech-and-language-exercises-for-4 -6-year-olds


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Note: {ugh. I live in a place were there are high distractions going on. Sorry for being so slow, or being off-on. I can only 'do' while neighborhood factors allow lesser problems. ~oy}

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posted August 31, 2021 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msrandomorangee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you everyone for your reply! I really appreciate it!

My son scores low in autism evaluation, which is why the specialist suggested I look into a pediatric ENT specialist.

He is highly social, makes full eye contact, uses gestures and loves being picked up and hugged. He is a very happy child who never had issues with sound. That got us thinking if he had hearing issues and we are right my son doesn’t react to sound on his left ear. People around me are telling me he has glue ear, plus enlarged tonsils and adenoid. Can’t be sure until the ENT says so. I’ll keep everyone posted!

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posted August 31, 2021 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msrandomorangee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Athenaia,

Thank you so much for this wonderful interpretation of his chart. I checked his solar return chart and indeed his solar return mercury falls in his 1st house that too in later degree of Taurus! His sun sign and natal mercury sign! So yes, mid may if all goes well, we will hopefully reach a breakthrough!

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posted August 31, 2021 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msrandomorangee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirage29,

Thank you so much for your resources! You’re so sweet, I can’t thank you enough.

Yes, my son seems unusually bright sometimes. His motor skills are great and he learns things fairly easily but behind in language. He is a really happy child and truly sweet natured; I think that’s the Leo rising in him. I am also a Leo rising so I adore him.

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posted August 31, 2021 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ladylibra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speaking from personal experience….
My son started speech therapy at 2 years old for speech delay. He went for 6 months and hasn’t stopped talking since 😂. Sometimes they simply just need instruction and encouragement from someone other than you. Don’t sweat it! Find a speech therapist and watch him blossom.

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posted September 04, 2021 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by msrandomorangee:
Mirage29,

Thank you so much for your resources! You’re so sweet, I can’t thank you enough.

Yes, my son seems unusually bright sometimes. His motor skills are great and he learns things fairly easily but behind in language. He is a really happy child and truly sweet natured; I think that’s the Leo rising in him. I am also a Leo rising so I adore him.


The research I did was from a book by an author who described aspects, and the possible childhood experiences she's observed with her "adult clients"-- how these may describe the role of parents in the formation of their personalities.

The aspects-- describe conditions of the felt-atmosphere in the parental home at the moment when the child was born.

Describes the dynamics going on between the mother and father-- which atmosphere a child absorbs like a sponge.

Describes the relationship each parent had with 'each their own' pair of mother and father-- which in turn shaped their own style of parenting. The author explored the affects of aspects on the early life of clients that asked her for readings.

Current world events and social circumstances (beyond our personal control) are working to shape your child's self--- In a wide brush stroke, this is in order to have him ready to fulfil purpose!

Looking at your child's aspects, as described by her (relating to adult charts) at first I thought how differently you and your family might describe what your child perceives.
...
But then-- as I added the factor of COVID's interference, the slant of what she said makes sense! Your child's impression of the family follows a skew that this pandemic has had (in all of our lives). COVID has caused changes that are outside of his, and YOUR control. It affected daily life, and living-conditions.

One of the astrologers above had mentioned 'it's not your fault'...

And it isn't!! Your Son (especially seeing his "south-node conjunct Saturn", and its aspects) has come into the Earth with a very-specific assignment (more than others).

"For such a time as this."

The experiences he may encounter is actually there to groom him-- to develop his future role in Society!!! {{ }}

He has come in with talents!!
And may have leadership skills to be developed?

Be sure to teach him ..
what he would need to know (or quality to have), if he were to become an important 'boss' some day. Teach him 'How to Listen.' How to put himself in another person's shoes (in his employees shoes), when making decisions.

He may be presented with sets of repeating circumstances and frustrations-- these will draw out and refine his inborn talents.

Teach him how to reframe (the perceptions of) failures as a learning opportunity. Analyze the reason why, and look forward to "trying it again" with a new or revised approach to obtaining his goal.

Also, that 'failing' happens to everyone. And 'failing' does NOT define who we are.

{I'm thinking about how hard the Olympic athletes had to work, in order to get to the point of qualifying for the team.}

{I'm thinking about a person who may have written a book, and how to handle the many rejection letters that may be received before a publisher accepts the work.}

One of my majors in college was psychology. One student had worked on designing an experiment, then executing it campus-wide for a number of years. It would culminate with needing to do his dissertation. After spending a substantial chunk of his time, effort, and expense towards proving his idea-- the result of his work proved that 'his idea was wrong'.
. .
After a while, he got VERY depressed.
Then I overheard a discussion between himself and two faculty members in the hallway. They told him his experiment IS a success, in that it provided information on 'how' the idea proposed is "wrong." It showed that it didn't work-- which is information that DOES has Value for those involved in research for that field.
. .
Overhearing that, I was SOO impressed.
Was valuable to me that I heard this.


These kids being born are sooo Special. The survival of Human Existence itself may be their challenge. AND, they come 'equipped' with talents, and Heart to accomplish it.

God Bless you, and your family.
And Many Blessings on your Boy.

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Randall
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posted September 16, 2021 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by msrandomorangee:
Hi Randall,

Are you facing the same with your kid? I would like to know your thoughts about his chart.


I don't have children.

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