posted August 22, 2022 12:38 AM            

I’ve only experienced short term relationships for years, and some of them have been traumatizing… I’m feeling more ready for something more serious, and long term. It just seems I cannot find it, I do a lot of work on myself, and I would say I lack optimism and self love, I also have massive abandonment issues. I sometimes wonder if those issues manifest into me not being able to reel in a healthy long term relationship.

posted September 01, 2022 03:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi LilyIris07 !

Yes, it seems that Chiron in your 7th house opposite to Saturn in your 1st and square to Mercury in your 4th talk exactly about the issues you have mentioned, lack of self value, abandonment issues, difficult long term relationships... this shortness of your relationships is also shown by South Node conjunct Venus... Look at your Chiron in Virgo square to your Mercury in Gemini, which is your Sun and Sun ruler in the 3rth house of mercury ! What aspects does your Sun make? It is opposite Pluto and square Mars, trine to Uranus, sextile Moon.... There is an underlying fear and self-damaging pattern (Sun-Pluto-Mars t-square) in your subconscious that you need to razionalize (mercury), Venus is in your 2nd house and Chiron in your 7th so your healing may actually GO through relationships, but relationship means to deal and share with another and expose yourself and this is what your Pluto opposite Sun may want to avoid... With Saturn square Mercury there is a lot of self-blaming and lack of self-worth, but with the Sun/Pluto opposition this all honestly looks like a self-defense pattern. Uranus trine to Sun wants to set yourself free! Uranus in the 11th house, square to the Nodes, you're unique, shining and standing out!
When transiting North Node will be conjunct to your Venus/South Node early next year, tr. Jupiter direct will also be conjunct to your Moon, so then you may have a chance to meet someone...
But I think you will be much more ready for "healing" your relationship issues between 2024 and 2025, when the nodal transits will go through your Moon and then through your Saturn/Chiron opposition.
You are young so don't give up!!

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posted September 01, 2022 11:11 PM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Thanks so much for your response! Gosh 2024/2025 seems so far away, so that means I won't get into something fairly serious now?

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Actually, it's a bit too early for such a prediciton, but since you've asked... I have looked a bit further in the future :-))
Let's go step by step by now... and wait for January 2023 :-) ...and give me updates if you have any!

posted September 02, 2022 12:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Actually, it's a bit too early for such a prediciton, but since you've asked... I have looked a bit further in the future :-))
Let's go step by step by now... and wait for January 2023 :-) ...and give me updates if you have any!

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posted September 02, 2022 02:20 AM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
I will do ~~ Thank you, I am sort of starting to see someone but I don't know.

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is it the guy we're talking about in the other thread?

posted September 02, 2022 03:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
is it the guy we're talking about in the other thread?

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posted September 02, 2022 04:48 AM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Yes but he won't be here in January unless something miraculous happens.

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posted September 02, 2022 06:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yeah, now I am aware of that... :-(
It's possible that tr. north node to your Venus/South Node has to do with detachment and "moving on"... even though, tr. Jupiter conjunct your Moon would tell a different story... unless, this whole situation may actually be the start for you self-healing, It's a very karmic connection with this guy and it certainly has an higher meaning.

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posted September 02, 2022 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I understand... but you need to find a way out from this negative Chiron stuff. It's NOT YOU, not your fault, and it's not abandonement, you need to look at this as a way to discover and heal your true Self and self-value. With your Chiron in the 7th house, the relationship sphere is clearly the one that is putting this karmic test/challenge to you, but your whole Self is much much more than this, with Jupiter in your 10th house and Jupiter/Pluto midpoint conjunct to MC, you have a lot to accomplish in this life. Saturn is in your first house so you have to find your true self, which is very independent and creative with Sun trine Uranus, you may be a little introvert, but you have great social and communication skills, and likely you have a role in these matters, in society. Or just for yourself. The Pluto/Mars/Sun t-square is a malicious energy that triggers self-damaging ways of thinking, but it also can bring powerful energies for your self-achievement and you have to transform this negative energy in a way that leads you to self-value, by developing your own ambitions. Since Mercury, which is your Sun ruler, is greatly afflicted in your chart, you have to work in order to change the negative pattern of your mind... of course this unlucky situation with this guy is not helping at all at this moment... but one thing is for sure: there is nothing wrong with you for this to happen, you're not unlucky, you do deserve to be loved and this whole life situation is only temporary, you're just going though a path of learning about yourself and your possibilities and to find a way to empower you possibilities. It's your Saturn square Mercury that is talking to you about suicide, not your true Self !

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This is amazing stuff, Stoika!
Great and true perspective.
Thanks for saying this.
Obviously this thread isn't about me, but I was very moved by your words.

posted September 02, 2022 06:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I understand... but you need to find a way out from this negative Chiron stuff. It's NOT YOU, not your fault, and it's not abandonement, you need to look at this as a way to discover and heal your true Self and self-value. With your Chiron in the 7th house, the relationship sphere is clearly the one that is putting this karmic test/challenge to you, but your whole Self is much much more than this, with Jupiter in your 10th house and Jupiter/Pluto midpoint conjunct to MC, you have a lot to accomplish in this life. Saturn is in your first house so you have to find your true self, which is very independent and creative with Sun trine Uranus, you may be a little introvert, but you have great social and communication skills, and likely you have a role in these matters, in society. Or just for yourself. The Pluto/Mars/Sun t-square is a malicious energy that triggers self-damaging ways of thinking, but it also can bring powerful energies for your self-achievement and you have to transform this negative energy in a way that leads you to self-value, by developing your own ambitions. Since Mercury, which is your Sun ruler, is greatly afflicted in your chart, you have to work in order to change the negative pattern of your mind... of course this unlucky situation with this guy is not helping at all at this moment... but one thing is for sure: there is nothing wrong with you for this to happen, you're not unlucky, you do deserve to be loved and this whole life situation is only temporary, you're just going though a path of learning about yourself and your possibilities and to find a way to empower you possibilities. It's your Saturn square Mercury that is talking to you about suicide, not your true Self !

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posted September 02, 2022 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Aw, doll thank you so much for your stunning reply ❤️ reading that made me feel so much better, and scarily accurate. I’m studying at the moment, psychology- and I do a lot of therapy, I’m in recovery it’s honestly constantly self-work/healing. It can be exhausting but I do the best I can, and I want to be able to help others one day too, I find it fascinating and I understand how people struggle.

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posted September 02, 2022 06:59 PM            

I agree with you!

Well, I have been thinking A LOT about this... our birth chart contains all the energies we've absorbed at out birth, and they keep infuencing us since then... they are part of us cause they have influenced our path, likely because we don't know how to take control of those energies and we need to discover our true Self in order to do that! but those energies are not US !! I am trying myself to learn how to control my natal chart energies and... it's tough!

posted September 03, 2022 09:59 PM            

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You DO have great skills in helping others in the psychological field!! In fact your Chiron is trine to Neptune, Saturn in Pisces, Pluto in the 9th, with the Chiron/Saturn opposition you have the potential to transform your wound into healing not just yourself but also other people, Chiron is actually in Virgo, and this clearly speaks of your Chiron "serving" other's healing.
If you feel you're recovering, or just on your way to this path, then I think you should not waste your efforts and achievements at this moment, the meeting with this guy may be exactly be testing how far you have gone in this... what do you feel by such a perspective? Do you feel stronger than before or weaker? I think you're just "Temporary" falling down cause you need to get up again and recognize your efforts to yourself... dont give up now.

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Thank you for your response ❤️ - I mean, I do honestly see my self as some sort of therapist or something along those lines, although I am not sure which niche it will be.