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mambo
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posted August 15, 2002 06:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just finished work and heard on the morning radio that the families of the people that died on Sept 11th are massing aTrillion Dollar lawsuit against Banks, certain Arab royalty and the terrorist régime that was supposedly behind these events.

But what I've been discovering via internet and magazines is that many foreign Governments knew of the plot to attack America up to 1 yr before. These Governments contacted the US departments about the information received and still nothing was done.

Also it's not about terrorism but drugs and oil. The Taleban outlawed the growing of Opium and destroyed $200 billion dollars worth of the plants if it was manufactured into drugs.

The US and English had troops ready for action 1mth prior to the attacks on Afghanistan stationed offshore.

Now that the Taleban have been run out of office, opium production is again in full swing.

The CIA met with Osama Bin Laden whilst he was in hospital in Saudi Arabia back in 2001.
www.fromthewilderness.com/
www.nexusmagazine.com/

Mike Ruppert whos' website From The Wilderness is an ex LA Cop that has had dealings with CIA and the likes and is now trying to get people to realise the truth...you can read his personal story as well as his fight to get people in the know about Sept 11th the freedom of speech they deserve...a very interesting site.

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Randall
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posted August 16, 2002 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting info, Mambo! And we are approaching the first year next month.

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QueenofSheeba
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posted August 16, 2002 04:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't want to get into another politics dicussion quite so soon after my last one but I like what you're saying , mambo.Freedom of speech is good,utilize it and make 'em wish they hadn't given it to you!

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Randall
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posted August 17, 2002 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting that opium may have an unpublicized role behind ousting the Taliban.

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Cat
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posted August 17, 2002 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mambo
Very interesting info, thank you.

QueenofSheeba
"Freedom of speech is good,utilize it and make 'em wish they hadn't given it to you!"
I love that It is sooo true.
Sue

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QueenofSheeba
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posted August 17, 2002 02:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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QueenofSheeba
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posted August 17, 2002 02:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And jwhop and I argued over something like this in "Enron,Enron,Enron"....

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jwhop
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posted August 18, 2002 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All you have to believe to buy into these conspiracy theories is that:

Governments in every developed nation are themselves criminal enterprises.

Every Federal Judge including the Justices of the Supreme Court and the Chief Justice have entered into a conspiracy. Every Federal Prosecutor, every Cabinet level official, top level people and some at lower levels too, in the CIA, FBI and the NSA, every Federal Prosecutor, every Congressional member including Senators and their staffs, the executive officers of every bank, every Wall Street firm, the top level people in every church denomination, the Governor of every state, the Chief of Police in every major city, the executive officers of every oil company and most major corporations, the entire news media, including the top so called broadcast journalists and so on and on have to be a part of it too or someone would blow the lid off the conspiracy.

And additionally, you would have to wonder why people who wouldn't hesitate to start wars knowing hundreds of thousands or even millions of people would be killed wouldn't have the people killed who are exposing the conspiracy on the Internet and through publications. If for no other reason than to protect the conspiracy and themselves.

Now, that is strange behavior, isn't it?

Any ideas?

jwhop

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Foxxy
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posted August 18, 2002 05:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
eeeeeeeeeeee! Politics. (Please Don't shoot )
I've been on both sides of this argument before. Particularly interesting to me was one website (which was shut down three times, I've lost track of it now) set up by a structural engineer which explained why the Twin Towers couldn't have fallen the way they did. Which included clips from cnn from other engineers, one of whom stated that explosives had to have been planted thoughout the building, who later changed his statements. The site also pointed out inconsistencies in debris and pictures for the plane crash . .

Opium was big money for Afghanistan before the Taliban, and it regained most of its power over the last few years as the Taliban has struggled (Esp. Financially). Of what I have read not all of the regrowth could have occured without the Talibans knowledge. The original destruction of the Opium fields was done with US aid so I doubt highly that any US influence would have been used to put them back . . Especially as it was known that Opium was being grown again in Afghanistan, well, the last time I had politics class ('00).

The big issues with Afghanistan previous to 11 were human rights violations. My politics teacher ('00) predicted at the time that the Taliban would fall in the next year to year and a half based on their outstanding poverty and the gross HR violations occuring within their borders. Afghanistan was reprimanded by the UN several times and occupation of Afghanistan by Peace Keepers came before the UN and was rejected as being likely only to speed and worsen the offences taking place. In fact it rang with me because the previous year I had studied the Kosovo situation (Specifically Nato's involvement with) in Law and the UN's stunning inaction in the region seemed to be part of the pattern with Afghanistan.

**Off topic The League of Nations fell because it had no power to take action, the UN very well might fall because it refuses to take any action.

Nevertheless The Taliban was ripe to fall, (and the 11th definitly strikes as an act of desperation no?) Troops being on hand to peace keep or ala NATO in Kosovo take action just outside Afghanistans borders would not be out of place considering the political situations taking place.

Afghanistan is and since the ussr/communism has been an exceedingly poor nation. It managed a brief economic rally shortly after the Taliban took power however it never escaped poverty. Ten-fifteen years of poverty can and will warp a nation. Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to the Dark Side. If you can't feed your family, inflation is running rampant you do not know where your next meal is coming from and you live under those conditions day in and day out for years, you get scared. Combine this with a tolitarian gov't that is constantly scrutinizing you and exacts Horrible punishments, you're going to get angry. And you need somewhere safe to direct it because you cannot argue with that sort of gov't. So blame the Americans who didn't take care of you after they *freed* you. Stay angry long enough and you hate them. ect. ect.

I've blabbered enough . . Can you tell I have Mercury (first planet) First house? Cnj my sun even?

Irregardless of Politics I think the important lessons of Sept. 11 stand. The value of Human Life, the need to protect ourselves, and take care of each other . .

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QueenofSheeba
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posted August 18, 2002 08:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhop,I mean a SUBTLE conspiracy...maybe more of a scandall...not organized crime.
OK,now I'm running....

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mambo
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posted August 18, 2002 10:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop If the video of Rodney King wasn't publicly screened would the Police have acknowledge it had happened?

General Motors and Ford supplied and knowingly helped the Nazi régime during WW II, and then publicly denied any wrongdoing. Is this a conspiracy?

I went to the public library and looked up an encyclopedia of famous scientists, Tesla wasn't mentioned. All through school Edison was pouted as having discovered electricity. I only came across Tesla from friends that were doing electrical/electronic apprenticeships. Is this a conspiracy?

Bruce R Cathie publicly states in his video conference that he received death threats when he started saying that nuclear weapons couldn't be detonated at any specific time or place on this planet.

The US was going to provide aid for the Afghans when Russia pulled out. This didn't happen and then you ask why are the Afghans so anti American.

In the Iran/Iraq war, you had Russia backing the Iranians and America backing the Iraqis', now Iraq is seen to be public enemy No 1. Why is this?

Why is it, that the US has one of the largest stockpiles of bio-chemical weapons and it is not urged to destroy them?

When NZ declared itself Nuclear free the US and Australia ostracized us and ANZUS was no longer, but covertly the relationship became stronger and NZ still supplied the US with intelligence.

Australia, New Zealand and the US all knew of the attrocities in East Timor as far back as 1974, why did it take 2 decades before people were ready to intervene?

Our own SAS go on covert trips around the globe annually, and to do this they have to sign a paper which relinquishes them from active duty, in the case they are killed on a mission or captured. This then gives the Government a way out saying they had no knowledge. Yeah Right.

We have Police actively using and abusing drugs and alcohol. I know this for a fact because my former flatmate in Auckland was a Policeman and he verified this. He also said that the NZ Police are very rascist and there would be a big outrage if this ever became public knowledge. This was verified last week when I was talking to an ex cop who said the same thing.

There are cover ups happening all the time, both in the US and NZ and I find it hard that people will still believe all the garbage they are fed, without taking a subjective look at the situation.

I'm glad this has got people talking, I am not interested in whether you believe it or not, I just want people to start questioning what is happening in their own country as well as overseas.

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