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Topic: Protest in Sydney :(
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jjjax
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posted March 26, 2003 08:02 PM
 
I went to a peace protest yesterday in Sydney... and I was very disappointed. Now firstly so I’m not attacked here I want to say I wasn’t there because it was trendy, or because I wanted to cause havoc... I was actually there mainly because I was taking some really excellent photojournalist pics.... 7 rolls in all. Now my Disappointment was due to little punks just there to cause trouble. I had this one kid treading on my shoes and trying to trip me over for about 15 mins, I couldn’t handle it any longer and I was worried I would trip over and hurt myself and break my camera, so I told him off then he tried to start a fight with me! I asked him why he was there... to annoy people? It was so annoying. I later recognised him as one of the stupid kids that was shown on TV... but I didn’t see any violence at all... in fact what happened to me was I was trapped in a small area of a street for over two hours... there were hundreds of us, swat teams along the building faces, and police on horses forming a barricade on either end. They would not let us leave! They told us to sit down and they would let us go. So we did and they didn’t. There we school kids there that were crying because they had to get home, they had to get to work. People needed to go to the toilet and were not allowed. Its was obviously psychological intimidation, they were trying to break our spirits, but over 2.5hours!!! That’s enough to make anyone a little edgy! They were asking for trouble. So we realised they weren’t going to let us go so we started mucking around and playing hackie sack and stuff, and most of us just sat there are patiently waited. People who have to pray at a particular time of day and who were not allowed to leave started praying in the street in masses. Meanwhile outside of the barricades was were it appears most of the violence took place... anger that others had been trapped inside. I couldn’t believe the media spin on things! All they showed was violence... and it was not acceptable in the least for those kids to do what they were doing... but they didn’t show anything about how myself and hundreds of others were confined for 2 and a half hours. I know that the police were only doing there job, but the group I was inside with were not being violent at all, they were just very upset. Anyway it was an eye opener and I’m glad I went and I saw all of this emotion first hand. It really makes me wonder though what the media isn’t letting us know. Just thought id share  Jax
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N_wEvil
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posted March 26, 2003 09:23 PM
*shrugs* its a well known fact most media outlets are propaganda machines...funnily enough the people that disagree with that statement have views coinciding with the "opposing side"....strange that, innit?  IP: Logged |
theFajita3
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posted March 26, 2003 11:24 PM
Yea the media does not always show everything and it is very important to remember that, especially with the minute by minute coverage everywhere we go now. ------------------
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pearly
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posted March 27, 2003 02:34 AM
jjjax 
I just wanted to express my support for your peaceful intentions. It sounds terrible what the law enforcement did...sad really. Yet, strangely enough, I feel very hopeful that peace, fairness and real democracy will eventually prevail Anyway, I also feel bad that you had to pre-qualify the reason why you went to a peace rally on a site that claims to understand peace... when you said this: quote:
Now firstly so I’m not attacked here I want to say I wasn’t there because it was trendy, or because I wanted to cause havoc...
Hmmmm... it is something I am giving thought to. Love and Light to you  IP: Logged |
Harpyr
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posted March 27, 2003 02:51 AM
It makes me really sad and angry when people say the only reason that so many are taking to the street is because it's 'trendy'.Couldn't it be that right now humanity is just collectively evolving to a higher level where we question the legitimacy of warfare as a method of dealing with problems? We are afterall, entering into the age of Aquarius, to use what I'm sure some might call a tired 60's sloagan. I'm out in the streets for very spiritual reasons having to do with not accepting pre-emtive violence as an acceptable solution to problems. To call something stemming from my religious beliefs a trend is like me calling Christianity a trend that is on it's way out. And yes, it is endlessly infuriating that the media chooses to highlight an extremely small segment of the protesters that are destructive (I don't consider blocking traffic distructive but breaking McDonalds windows obviously is) and totally ignore the thousands of other peaceful people who may be there. Not to mention the fact that it's very likely much of the violence is started by provacateurs put there by the police. The media here in Portland just reported last night that they even noticed the undercover cops in the crowd. It's very much the same sort of tactic used in the 60's to discredit civil rights movements. COINTELPRO is making a comeback. IP: Logged |
Alena
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posted March 27, 2003 11:23 AM
I am all for freedom of speech and protesting. From reading all the posts here, I don't believe that anyone on this forum would take to the streets because it's trendy. I know that you're referring to what LL said. I don't think he meant it towards anyone here. I do believe there are some people out there in the world that are just going along without knowing what the heck they are doing. It's not really bashing the anti-war protestors as a whole. There are, well......idiots on boths sides of the issues.
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theFajita3
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posted March 30, 2003 01:12 AM
Yea Harpyr I don't think that was directed towards you. I can tell you whole heartedly mean what you say. I think it's just an impression gotten from those live interviews at protests and it's got some kids who look like they are going because it's fun to rebel against the government. Course ignorant runs on both sides and there are people prowar who are equally as ignorant. ------------------
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Harpyr
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posted March 30, 2003 02:25 AM
Alena and Fajita,
That's so funny that you both made the comments that there are ignorant people on both sides..I was just thinking about the post I had made here recently and wished that I had mentioned that point. I was at a peace march a few days ago and saw this street kid that I'd run into a few times at parties and such where I have gotten the impression that he is a total idiot..really fried in the brain from doing too much LSD. I was scoffing at him being there because I suspected he didn't really know a thing about what's going on in the world and was only there because that's were all the action was. I thought to myself, 'Lord, I hope they don't quote that moron on the news'. So I got home and sure enough, THERE HE WAS..making some totally stupid comment, I'm sure..I only caught the last couple words he said as I walked into the room..and I was soooooo aggravated.
Leave it to the corporate media to pick the most idiotic face they can find to attach to the peace movement. AArrrggh. But anyway..thanks for making that crucial point, ladies!
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theFajita3
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posted March 30, 2003 02:53 AM
have a good weekend guys!
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jjjax
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posted March 30, 2003 03:09 AM
Harpyr, when i said "I wasn’t there because it was trendy, or because I wanted to cause havoc..." I was trying to deffend myself in advance. I know some people do think that others will go to a march like this because they are trying to be trendy. Though there may be a few people who do exactley that, i know that most people go to protests because they are there for the cause. Honestly photo-journalism is only part of the reason i was there... i wouldnt have gone otherwise I hope you didnt think i was saying that everyone who goes to these things is going because its trendy, if you did i am sorry, that is not what i ment by it. From past coments on this forum i know some people dont see protesting in the same light that i do. But from a photojournalistic view, wow! pure emotion. Harpyr, so sorry if there was a misunderstanding!  Jax IP: Logged |
jjjax
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posted March 30, 2003 03:25 AM
Oh gosh I don’t even know if what I just wrote makes sense! Its doesn’t seem to matter how you put together your sentences in other forums... but I’m learning I have to be real careful in this one. What I write keeps being taken in a way I don’t indend. Ah!!! I’m gonna make everyone hate me! Oh im so sorry!  Stress stress! IP: Logged |
Harpyr
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Registered: Jun 2010
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posted March 30, 2003 01:07 PM
Oh jjjax..Don't stress!
My comments didn't stem from anything you had said..
I was referring to what a couple of other people around here have either said or very strongly implied on other threads..a couple of guys with names that start with L and j to be exact...
I'm not mad or anything though...
There are some people out in the streets because it's trendy just like there are some people who support the war only because other people close to them do and they fear going against the norm.  & jjjax! IP: Logged |
jjjax
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posted March 31, 2003 07:53 AM
phew! hehe. Harpyr IP: Logged |
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