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RubyRedRam
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posted April 03, 2003 09:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am severely disappointed with how the forum has panned out and I feel quite disappointed for Randall, Oxy and Fajita.

I realise there is only a minority of people wrecking it for the others but the vibe in this forum is so un-knowflake like, and it doesn’t belong in Lindaland.

I know there is a war going on and people have such diverse opinions about it but can’t we celebrate our diversity instead of showing no respect for a person who has a different opinion to your own?

All of this article posting is quite tiring…I know that everyone has a right to post articles but I am sure people don't even read them all. It is quite frustrating having to skim through articles and try and pick out the bits where people are actually having their say.

I also dislike the fact (and not everyone is guilty of it) that some people think if you don’t have the education then your argument is not worthy and your opinion is without merit. I say jump off your soapbox and take a look around. There is so much more to life. The aggression and ego-tripping is foul, it is really off and I don’t think people’s feelings are being taken seriously or into account at all.

People here do not need to be put down or labelled as ‘lame’ or whatever hurtful comments you come up with at the time. I learned my lesson by having an argument with one person in particular. When I stepped back and contemplated my actions I realised I was simply bringing myself down to their level and made the decision not to go back down.

I don’t think that some people even took heed to Randal’s post ‘play nice or play elsewhere’ although some people did. I enjoy reading the posts from these people and it’s a shame they are being let down by a certain few.

The way I see it, the only way I can avoid hurt, anger and outrage is by avoiding this forum altogether and that is a sad day in my history at Lindaland.

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Oxychick
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posted April 03, 2003 09:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RRR,

I agree.

But I hope you will reconsider leaving the forum because your ideas and insights ARE so valuable. If you walk away, you let the negativity win.


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N_wEvil
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posted April 03, 2003 09:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, my monitor wobbles when i put my foot on the floor and shake it...

uhmm, yeah..

Well, all we can do is go for a little restraint but this forum by its' very nature is going to be the harshest ones around - but yep, its been a difficult few days for everyone i feel - but we should handle this stuff better, escpecially since we actually have a clue whats going on!

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Carlo
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posted April 03, 2003 12:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
word.

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Lost Leo
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posted April 03, 2003 01:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Education is the acquirement of knowledge, knowledge is information & introspection...

Without information & introspection how can one truly understand?

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Carlo
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posted April 03, 2003 01:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One needs not to understand, yet only to understand oneself

Love,
Carlo

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morgana
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posted April 03, 2003 01:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RRR, I totally understand you and I agree with you completely. I avoided this forum for a long time because I had a really bad feeling about it when it came up right when the war started, but I never dreamed it could become this negative right here in Lindaland. Lindaland! Where is Linda in this forum? I don't see her anywhere. Maybe she pops up once in a while, but she soon gets drowned in all the negativity. All the knowflakes that get along so great in all other forums are engaged in a furious and may I add pointless battle here. When I read some of the posts I get really upset and that's not why I come here. Maybe you're right, maybe one should just avoid this forum before one gets sucked in

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pearly
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posted April 03, 2003 02:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the point about education was that it is not productive to make generalizations and assumptions regarding a person's ability to speak on things versus where they received their education. Education and success come from many, many different sources and paths... there is no "one way" to achieve knowledge. What is right for some, is wrong for others.

Any endeavor or life path is a great one. Follow your dreams and goals... you have them for a reason.


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pidaua
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posted April 03, 2003 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RRR,

I don't think that the education argument was geared towards anyone on this forum. It was in relation to the celebrities using their face time to call the adminstration "dumb, unintelligent and so forth" when in fact the majority of those celebrities never went on to a higher education.

It was taken out of context by someone and applied to everyone in an attempt to start a new battle over who is educated. Instead of just accepting the fact that the celebs, although allowed to have their opinion, stoop to a low level by calling people dumb.


I think it is almost censorship to want to put down this forum or even insinuate that we shouldn't have it or that a "handful" of people are ruining it.

Geez, we all have different lifestyles and opinions. Mine are as valid as yours. I have seen some name calling, some people hinting that women that are conservative should be relegated to a position similar to a muslim woman in a burka (which I assume means "kept in her place"), people being called liars without any merit to back up the accusation.


It is as though, if someone supports the country, the war or is even conservative, then that opinion is seen as a threat and the person is ruining the LL board for everyone else.


These topics, no matter how sensitive, should be addressed. I may totally differ with Carlo, but I believe he has the right to say what he wants and I would never censor him. If I don't feel like reading his long articles, then I skip the thread. Hell, he even wants to trade my vagina for a warm beer. That made me laugh, that's just the way it is. If he makes me mad, I'll tell him. Right Carlo?

I like what Alena, Donna, jwhop, and Lost Leo have to say, but I don't just read only what they write. Quite frankly, if this website was made of only one kind of person with one agenda / belief, HOW BORING.


It seems apparant to me, that to some people "Playing Nice" means "Play my way, by my rules, believe in what I believe, OR you are not playing nice at all."

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morgana
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posted April 03, 2003 04:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pidaua, to me, "Playing Nice" means "Play Fair", not "Play my way".
And I believe this is what RRR is trying to say.

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Carlo
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posted April 03, 2003 05:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, and quite frankly "play" is a lighthearted yet inappropriate term to use, and the title of Randall's thread is a fiction which allows him to create some order and decorum and maybe some poise to our sand castles, yet they will remain just that, binary sand castles, since we're all just playing. Oh sure, we get what he means with the phrase "play nice", yet it isn't to truly play with our words...or is it? Play contains lay and pay, so if you want to play, you have to both pay and lay, so leave your purse at the edge of the bed and spread 'em!

Yet play usually means a state of enjoyment where there is little governance. Go ahead, play, goof around, throw a firecracker into someone's thread or tickle them (with your words) until they scream...it's all in the name of play. If someone gets a warm fuzzy feeling down there when I write my feelings about her...well, so be it...you get offended, awww, find another sandbox, toots. Fetish, S&M, B&D, D&s, you know, is play. Play implies complete consensuality (oh, yummy! co-sensual, I'm in, and I won't tell if you won't tell!) , since you parked your butt in this binary sandbox, you better be prepared if the playahs get rough, and if so, beat it, little cry baby, this sandbox is for the big kids, you little kids watch your ass, we play for keeps. So to keep using that word to term our involvement here is what is at the first instance an illusion, not what we really are doing, since it is all part of the game which we...play

{{{knocks your queen off the board and kicks it into the corner}}}

{{{knocks the whole board to the floor and laughs as you frown}}}

Still wanna play girls?

Come on!!! I'm playing nice!!! see, and I don't run with the scissors anymore, and my mom says that's nice

As for me, I'll play on, playah

Love,
Carlo

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Alena
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posted April 03, 2003 05:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think someone here has gone insane LOL

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N_wEvil
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posted April 03, 2003 05:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.....

i think the footprint of this post should contain all anyone needs to know.

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pidaua
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posted April 03, 2003 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo,

You don't scare me. Not even your weirdo habits scare me. (I am saying this with a smile mind you.....or more like a smirk)

Morgana,

I understand what you are saying and maybe I am missing something that was said to RRR on another threat or something. All I know is that I have personally seen the hypocritical nature of some of those that cry "FOUL" in a loud voice only to turn around and completely put down and ridicule someone in the next sentence. So to me, one has to play by the same rules that they demand other to play by. I am not directing this towards RRR at all.

RRR is totally right that people do not need to stoop to such a low level as to berate someone for not having an education or making someone feel stupid for their beliefs.

Anyway, that is my take on things.

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theFajita3
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posted April 03, 2003 10:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK what the heck is going on? RRR what happened????????? For anyone who knows me my yahoo account got deactivated! and my hotmail account. I think I know who meddled with my stuff but I am just going to get a new one. I just would like to know what made RRR so upset...

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N_wEvil
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posted April 03, 2003 10:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just the general energy/violent/bad feeling level slowly rising in here.

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Oxychick
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posted April 03, 2003 10:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to intrude on the thread-

d- i thought it would be too late to call. can you get on messenger>?

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Alena
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posted April 03, 2003 10:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Fajita ........what N_wEvil said.

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Alena
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posted April 03, 2003 10:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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RubyRedRam
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posted April 04, 2003 12:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo obviously doesnt want to be here anymore.

Love and Light to you Carlo. I feel great pitty and sadness for you.

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theFajita3
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posted April 04, 2003 02:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm here now & also I emailed you. love d

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jjjax
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posted April 04, 2003 03:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fajita, yeah im a little confused about it too... i havent been on for a little bit and i have no idea what is going on!? Im sorry to see your so upset Ruby! Big hugs!!! Love and light to you all

Jax

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jjjax
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posted April 04, 2003 03:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Randall
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posted April 04, 2003 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me know your new e-mail address, so I can change it with your LG one.

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Carlo
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posted April 04, 2003 11:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel the same for you too Ally

Love,
Carlo

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