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N_wEvil
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posted July 22, 2003 02:30 PM
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/31872.html Kind of stinks to be part of the RIAA when even your own moneyspinners slam your draconian profit measures, no? IP: Logged |
silverbells
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posted July 28, 2003 04:30 PM
Hey, how would you like to be a musician who puts your very own fans in jail for loving your music. That's messed up! I mean, a fine would do. If it is such a problem then whole songs should be taken off of the computer and just have snippets, it's nobody's fault if someone downloads music. It is there to listen to in the first place. I'm already getting it for free, I might as well record it and have it anytime I want. Who is computer guy so-and-so to tell me that I can listen to Missy Elliot while sitting in front of my computer on the internet but when I get off of the internet, I can't listen anymore?
For the record, I don't even know how anyone downloads music. It seems like too much trouble; I just go and buy the album.
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Lost Leo
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posted July 28, 2003 04:34 PM
This is going to get huge...So I have a question... would appreciate anyone's input... So will technology allow for us to continue this P2P sharing no matter HOW much they try to destroy it? Like being all connected thru anonymous handles...? IP: Logged |
ally
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posted July 28, 2003 05:23 PM
I think that downloading music that you didn't pay for is the same thing as stealing. IP: Logged |
N_wEvil
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posted July 28, 2003 06:25 PM
As a content creator myself i'd say the urge to create is as natural to the human condition as the urge to procreate - well, in my case more natural, heh.The shift in being creative to earn a living to forcing people to pay for recycled rubbish is an extreme perversion of this basic drive.
In terms of the technology - its public domain now. I could sit down with a couple of programming books and net access to some bulletin boards and IRC channels and in 2 months have a workeable P2P network running between a few hundred computers.
The only way to stamp down on this would be to deny people any significant bandwidth. Try and do that to me? I'll knock your peabrained head off - and no, i'm not even joking. The first politician stupid enough to put themselves at the head of such a draconian measure will be courting assassination attempts from just about every geek on the planet. Ally - you're very predictable, y'know? IP: Logged |
ally
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posted July 28, 2003 06:46 PM
I may be predictable,but I don't see what's wrong with that. Nobody has to agree with me, I simply stated my opinion. IP: Logged |
Lost Leo
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posted July 28, 2003 07:58 PM
The Recording Industry has been ripping the world consumers off for decades now... and finally the "common man" has found a way to fight the exploitation we've endured for decades...And you side with the corporate pigs...
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Lost Leo
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posted July 28, 2003 08:00 PM
It cost less than 1/2 cent to produce a Music CD... Yet the retail price is nearly $18-$20 an album...that's roughly a 4000% markup on something that's already paid for, but can sell forever... Think about it... IP: Logged |
ally
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posted July 28, 2003 08:19 PM
It's not pathetic. It's my opinion. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 28, 2003 09:29 PM
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Lost Leo
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posted July 29, 2003 01:39 AM
Guess I got carried away...She's always negative... on everything... IP: Logged |
silverbells
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posted July 29, 2003 01:49 AM
I'm thinking about it and perhaps it is stealing because you know, the corporate wrongs don't mean that we should go against the rules and be wrong too; if they have legitamate rules. And why do they put the songs on the internet anyway, are they advertising or what? It seems that if you put it on there, then you want people to listen anytime or something.
What is the stated official purpose of having songs on there does anyone know?IP: Logged |
ally
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posted July 29, 2003 01:50 AM
I think that when we mistake something as negative and then,in turn, respond negatively,we make the situation much worse than it actually is.  IP: Logged |
ally
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posted July 29, 2003 01:51 AM
"They" don't put the songs on the internet. The general public does. IP: Logged |
silverbells
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posted July 29, 2003 02:18 AM
Wait a minute, I just had a thought. Do you think that the mark-up on the music is okay because the artists work so hard to bring people peace and even enlightenment and that to be in a state to produce this kind of art they should be paid out the a** so that they will be comfortable and relaxed and ready and free and uninhibited to make the art? Don't the artists get a set rate and then more money after their advances are paid off and a big profit starts to come in; if a big profit starts to come in? If you love your artist don't you want them to make so much money for themselves and for you regardless of whether the corporation cashes in or not?
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Get some love in your groove, just get hip to forgive-Michael Franks
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silverbells
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posted July 29, 2003 02:30 AM
Even though it seems that some artists lose their edge once they start getting paid.IP: Logged |
N_wEvil
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posted July 29, 2003 04:42 AM
The artists get paid about .05% of the total cost - the rest goes to the suits.Sorry, but if you're going to defend what quite honestly is the paradigm of all that I despise...well, 'nuff said really. IP: Logged |
Lost Leo
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posted July 29, 2003 01:11 PM
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StarLover33
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posted July 29, 2003 01:18 PM
The record company hasn't even lost that much money. Not even an inch! And as for the artists they also get money from concerts. If the artist is greedy enough, they'll just bump up their concert prices.I know this is irrelevant, but it is my biggest pet peave when an artist like Britney Spears pays 20,000 dollars for a purse, when my cousin is working hard to gather up the same money to start his own pizza parlor.
Are you saying this isn't a matter of greed?
This makes me very sad, when you don't see that most of our money, isn't going in the right direction.
P.S It's the truth, she really did buy a 20,000 dollar purse.
-Starlover
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StarLover33
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posted July 29, 2003 01:25 PM
Then the same stupid artists, make a song after 9/11, telling us about poverty and death in the world today! That I think, is very innapropriate.Then they sing, "What's wrong with the world today?"
I'll tell you exactly what's wrong, too many people want power and control, that they hoard all the money, and leave the rest to die in ignorance. Sorry it's blunt, but I think it's true! You know why schools are so bad today? Becuase there is not enough money going in to them. The kids are left with boredom and low grade education. This includes me! Then after High School, I have to pay a huge amount of money to go to a good college! But the truth is, I could've had the same education at a 1.00 dollar price. I guess there is a fine line, between politics and the entertainment business! I swear to god, give my generation 50 years, and we'll bring these assh*les down.  I'm sorry I get so angry and upset with this. Where does all our money go? Oh yeah I forgot, weapons and stuff. -StarLover IP: Logged |
silverbells
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posted July 29, 2003 04:22 PM
Hey, StarLover don't even get me started on the school system! Don't Even!!!Grrrrrr!N_w-
don't even start about how you are not going to say anything more if I defend a paradigm of all that you despise. 
Tell me what you think honestly. Is there no artist who stands for everything you believe in and who you want to be succesfull in everything because you just love them that much? (Even though you and StarLover did clarify how the artists get their money so now I agree, that if that is true then the mark-ups are a rip-off.)
But still what about your artistic hero? And I know that you have one, being an artist yourself. ------------------
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jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
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posted July 29, 2003 05:03 PM
StarLoverBefore you "lock and load" to go after the Bastar*s who have screwed up the public school system, it might help to know who's responsible. We're spending an average of about $7000 per pupil per year on elementary and seconday education or should I say mis-education. That represents a number that closely approximates the total budget for Defense or even exceeds it.
http://www.stateline.org/fact.do?factId=241395 You probably won't enjoy reading this.
http://oregonfamilyrights.com/books/none_dare/chapter1.html jwhop IP: Logged |
QueenofSheeba
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posted July 29, 2003 06:05 PM
If our education budget equalled or exceed our military spending, that would be a happy day. For myself, I go to a private school, and so don't have much perspective on American public education.------------------
Hello everybody! I used to be QueenofSheeba and then I was Apollo and now I am QueenofSheeba again (and I'm a guy in case you didn't know)! IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted July 29, 2003 07:12 PM
Well then, you must be having a very happy day indeed. The expenditure for education in year 2000 was 373 Billion US dollars
http://www.policyalmanac.org/education/archive/doe_education_spending.shtml The total Defense Budget for year 2000 was
294.5 Billion US dollars. These are the latest numbers I could come up with. jwhop
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StarLover33
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posted July 29, 2003 07:30 PM
Times have changed since 2000. The economy went down. My school has suffered incredible budget cuts, jobs were lost, and precious classes had to be taken out. It's terrible to have a class with 40 kids sitting next to you. I believe you, but where exactly is this money going, because I don't see it when I step in a classroom? I guess this is more of a state issue then anything else.I have to agree, the textbooks are incredibely awful, they teach nothing if not make things more complicated then they seem. Can't ask the teacher, becuase she's too busy taking care of 40 kids. This year I was doing horrible in Geometry, not becuase I was stupid, but becuase I couldn't stand being in a classroom. But when I was taught on a one to one basis, I was getting A's and B's on my tests and quizzes, thus allowing me to pass the year. I guess I'm a canidate for home schooling but that is impossible for me now! -StarLover
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