posted September 10, 2003 10:52 PM              

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Alrighty guys! whos with me on this one?!?! Global unity, step in on isreal and palestine, send both countries to their rooms with out their deserts and no TV till they think about what they have been doing and stop fighting? anyone? anyone at all?

I'm sorry, i just get feelin kinda down when i read about the crap goin on there. I mean, if you trace it back i guess you could say that isreal started it , well ISREAL didnt start it a radical Zionist movement started it by bombing a couple of buildings back in the late forties, but still, isnt it kind of rediculous that there should be so much fighting between a people who have the same god for pete's sake? and have teh same basic principles? I mean c'mon! i'm really starting to think that now radicals are jsut hungry for blood and they dont care who all tehy want is blood, like an animal y'know? I mean if they are so hungry for war and fighting, they shoudl just go into the Ultimate Fighter Championship!!! stuff on payper view theyd get all the fight they could handle... *sigh* i really hate to read about cultures taking eachother out of the food chain... literally. one day i s'pose... one day.... for now i guess i'll just have to start losing faith in man kind for a little while till something positive is printed in the news paper.... at least i know that as individuals and as small comunities we aint so bad....

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posted September 12, 2003 06:19 AM              

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Maybe we should just pull out, close it off and let them go at it......

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posted September 12, 2003 12:54 PM              

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Right on, Scatbug. Straight to their rooms, no TV, no phone calls from friends. It breaks my heart to see people killing each other every day. Years ago we used to dream of the future...of the year 2000...when humans would have the technology to stop all hunger in the world and end all poverty. Well the future is here and we actually DO have the technology to make those dreams come true, but we choose instead to focus our energy and resources on killing each other. If Israelis and Palestinians stopped killing each other today, it would take many generations before the anger and hurt could heal. They've gone so far with each other, I'm not sure how they can fix it now. I just know that continuing to destroy each other can't be the answer. I remember once when my son was about 5 years old and he heard that some group or the other was fighting for peace. In true child-like fashion he said, "But Mom, don't they know that if they quit fighting, they'll have peace?" I guess they don't.

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posted September 12, 2003 01:15 PM            

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Peace among compatible religous ideals? A stretch at best? Check in with N. Ireland...

*sigh*

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posted September 12, 2003 02:41 PM              

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But the Irish love a good argument! (evidence: my cancer ex)

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posted September 12, 2003 03:36 PM            

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The evidence is mounting Wevil. My Irish, double Aries, ex friend ,who no longer speaks to me .

Prob cuz I was right.....

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posted September 12, 2003 08:22 PM            

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*ahem*

*What, me argue? But I'm only half Irish! The other half is peace-loving Italian!*

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posted September 12, 2003 11:11 PM              

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Too bad that the Israelis and Palestinians take so much delight in killing each other. It really does make me sad, I just don't see either side as having the will to stop it. Nobody else seems to have the will either.

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posted September 13, 2003 08:39 AM            

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QOS, a 11:11 post, cool

Trillian, I have some Irish also, but it`s tempered with some: Scotch, German, English & American Indian..... Makes me a mellow sort

My Irish/English Gfather donated the red hair to the gene pool.

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posted September 14, 2003 05:38 AM            

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11:11

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posted September 14, 2003 09:32 AM            

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Be Here Now.

juniperb, you are indeed the mellow sort! I read another post where you referenced your Indian heritage, are you active with it?
And red hair, I've always loved red hair!

Now, back to our regularly scheduled discussion...

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posted September 15, 2003 10:29 AM              

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derailed.

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posted September 21, 2003 10:26 PM              

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"Historically the U.S. has defined Israeli security primarily in terms of American arms transfers, which may be lucrative for U.S. arms exporters and enhance the U.S domination of the region, but doe not address Israel's cores security concern, namely the violent reaction of a population resentful over 3.5 decades of military occupation. It should be apparent that such militarization does not promote American security interests either." From: Tinderbox ~Stephen Zunes~ The roadmap to peace is a joke

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posted September 22, 2003 06:40 AM              

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Talking about peace is any easy thing when you're not in the midst of the conflict, though, y'know?

The real trick isn't getting the governments and representatives to agree, it's getting the people to feel that an end to hostilities is viable when their hearts and minds are filled with memories of the deaths of their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, and friends at the hands of the other side. It may not be right, but it's unimaginably difficult to forgive and forget the bloody death of your 11-year-old little brother (just b/c he was in the way of some Isreali troops calming down a "resettlement" area) or how a suicide bomb ripped apart your fresh-faced young sister who just started university (b/c she had the gall to go out with her new friends one Friday night).

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posted September 22, 2003 05:26 PM              

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So true Proxieme. You hit the nail on the head. I think that's a lot of the problem. It could take many, many generations before the hurt disappears. Just think about how long it took the northerners and southerners in the US to get past the Civil War (or, if there are any Daughters of the Confederacy out there, the War of Northern Aggression). But the point is, both north and south belonged to the same country and it still took over 100 years for the psychological wounds to heal. It must be so much worse for the people in Isreal and Palestine. My heart aches for all who live in such conditions.

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