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Annie Kuzma
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posted January 25, 2004 04:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Martial Law: Plans Revealed! READ!

"Most importantly, prior congressional approval is not needed for such directives - they are instantly effective once the National Emergency is declared:"

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) that is to interface with the Department of Defense for civil defense planning and funding. An "emergency czar" was appointed. FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget on national emergencies, the bulk of their funding has been used for the construction of secret underground facilities to assure continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or domestic.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and granted the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry. Many of the figures in the Iran-Contra scandal were part of this emergency contingent, including Marine Colonel Oliver North. [2]

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Peace and Love
L.V.X. Annie
"Bind the consciousness of the denial of self-worth that says, "I am not worthy." I AM is the Name of God. To say this is to say, "God is not worthy. God in me is not worthy. I am worthless." When you are worthless and so say it, beloved, you have denied all God within you".

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QueenofSheeba
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posted January 25, 2004 05:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If there were multiple acts of nuclear terrorism inside the U.S., you would be damn glad when the government showed up, took over, and put the everything back together. I know what you're afraid of, Annie–– abuse of power. But the government does need certain powers for dealing with emergencies, though not necessarilly all the ones they have.
Anyway, this is why we all need to join the ACLU:
"Because freedom can't protect itself."

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Hello everybody! I used to be QueenofSheeba and then I was Apollo and now I am QueenofSheeba again (and I'm a guy in case you didn't know)!

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Aphrodite
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posted January 25, 2004 06:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sucks.

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TINK
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posted January 25, 2004 07:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was not aware of #11000. Slave camps! Great!

If I were sitting in the White House right now, how very tempting all that power would be. So close...so very,very close. And all I need to say are the magic words. Human nature being what it is, I suppose it's just a matter of time before someone succumbs to that temptation.

Once again, Aphrodite sums it up. "That sucks." I second that.

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Harpyr
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posted January 25, 2004 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree.. it's messed up.

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Motherkonfessor
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posted January 25, 2004 11:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the list!! As terrible as it is.

Was this included in any particular bill?

As for the idea that we would be "damn glad" our Big Daddy Govt will come in and "save" us, I am more worried about a possible fabrication in order to justify enforcing these mandates.

I had no idea it was "1984" again.....

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StarLover33
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posted January 28, 2004 05:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is really sad.

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jwhop
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posted January 28, 2004 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
John F. Kennedy----1962

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
John F. Kennedy----1962

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
John F. Kennedy---1962

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
John F. Kennedy----1962

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
John F. Kennedy---1962

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.
John F. Kennedy---1962

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
John F. Kennedy---1962

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
John F. Kennedy----1962

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
John F. Kennedy---1962

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
John F. Kennedy---1962

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
John F. Kennedy---1962

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
Lyndon Johnson---1966

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.
John F. Kennedy---1962

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
Gerald R. Ford---1976

EXECUTIVE ORDER 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) that is to interface with the Department of Defense for civil defense planning and funding. An "emergency czar" was appointed. FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget on national emergencies, the bulk of their funding has been used for the construction of secret underground facilities to assure continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or domestic.
Jimmy Carter---1979

EXECUTIVE ORDER 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and granted the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry. Many of the figures in the Iran-Contra scandal were part of this emergency contingent, including Marine Colonel Oliver North. [2]
Ronald Reagan---1988


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Randall
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posted January 28, 2004 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I seem to notice a trend there, Jwhop.

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jwhop
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posted January 28, 2004 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, with a capital D

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Harpyr
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posted January 29, 2004 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't we just agree on something? Why does it always have to disintegrate into finger pointing between Dems and Repubs?

Or, are you saying that you think some democrats had a good idea with all this stuff, jwhop?

They are all just a bunch of Republicrats anyways.

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Blazini
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posted February 10, 2004 05:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Politicians care more about themselves, their family, and their legacy more than they care about any of us. Looking at the way things are going, how can we hope for, much less bring about, the Golden Age of Aquarius?

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proxieme
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posted February 10, 2004 01:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*drops computer from window*

*laughs in glee as it shatters, never to torment her again*

I had a really good post almost finished.
A really, really good post.
Then a pop-up ad came-up and my computer completely froze. I had to restart.

*sighs*

A summary (god, it was so much better...poetic even):

* I echoed Harpyr - it doesn't have to be about politics, just about power in gen.
* Annie K's facts were unfairly presented, seemingly set-up in order to imply recent implementation of the EOs (I'm sure not by her fault, but by that of her source).
* I quoted Ben Franklin ("Those who would give up freedom for a little security deserve neither,"), Lincoln ("Those who would give up freedom for security shall surely find that they will have neither," or something like that), and then Bush (something like "There's such a thing as too much freedom," and "Our first priority is America's security,"; I then added - to be fair - Lincoln then did declare marshall law so that Maryland didn't separate from the Union & that Bush is in large part playing to the tenor of the American public (as he's a politician, that's what he does).
* Less than 1/2 of the public voted in the last presidential election - shifting the demographic of the "real" voting public older and more wealthy.
* 97% of the US population contributes no money to political campaigns; like it or not, politicians need money in order to win, and the aforementioned puts even greater power in the hands of the "special interests" and corporations so often decried.
* I then said, "It's your country, do something, don't lament about it - this is a republic, the impetus lies with you."

Last but not least:
QoS - Have you ever seen "The Siege"?

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