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Topic: A hair net in your future
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Harpyr Newflake Posts: 0 From: Alaska Registered: Jun 2010
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posted April 08, 2004 05:55 PM
It's always good to get reassurances from high government officials on issues of great concern to the people. Take the nagging issue of U.S. corporations offshoring hundreds of thousands of well-paying, high tech jobs out of our country -- the very jobs we were told would be our people's ticket into the middle class. But now the CEO's of Dell, Microsoft, IBM and the rest are shipping these engineering and programming jobs off to India, Russia and other locales where they can pay a third or a fourth or even a 10th of the middle-class pay scale in teh U.S. Hey, they say, America's a great place, but we're gonna go where we can fatten our bottom line.This self-serving betrayal of America's middle-class has-- to put it nicely-- annoyed many, many Americans. This is where Colin Powell steps in. Bush's secretary of state recently sought to reassure people on this issue of offshoring. Unfortunetly, the people he reassured were in India. On a recent trip there, he promised that the Bushites would do nothing to stop the outsourcing of U.S. high-tech jobs to India and, indeed, would oppose all congressional efforts to stop it. He even posed as an economic philosopher, declaring that "outsourcing is a natural effect of the global economic system," adding adamantly that "you're not going to eliminate outsourcing." Well, we're certainly not going to eliminate it if our government won't fight for our people. Oh, but Powell said, while "these kinds of dislocations will take place," the Bushites plan to train the American peole for new jobs. What new jobs, exactly? He didn't say. He didn't have a clue. But Bush's labor department knows. It lists 30 job categories that will have the greatest growth between now and 2010. Number one? Fast food workers. Two-thirds of their "growth jobs" pay less than $20,000 a year. Forget high-tech. Colin Powell envisions you in a hair net. By Jim Hightower ------------------------------------------ This hits kinda close to home cause my job doing tech-support was outsourced to India. Needless to say, I am one of the 'annoyed Americans' Jim refers to. It seems to me that a hidden (or increasingly not so hidden) agenda of Bush and Co is the elimination of the middle class. They want to see us either flipping burgers or joining the military. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 4782 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 08, 2004 07:28 PM
Liberals want to eliminate class distinctions, not Bush or any other conservative. Sorry, Charlie! The middle class pays the bills and bears the tax burden. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Isis Newflake Posts: 1 From: Brisbane, Australia Registered: May 2009
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posted April 08, 2004 09:00 PM
I agree w/ Randall - furthermore, I believe it's the middle class that mitigates the anger of the poor towards the rich, by taking the flak themselves. I am however vehemently against offshoring of jobs, but make no mistake, that has been going on since Clinton was in office (possibly longer, I'm just not positive about whether or not the practice extends beyond Clinton's presidency). It's not however, part of some evil plan hatched by the GOP. I know I've been guilty of this myself, both in jest and seriously, but it's a pity that subjects like this, which would be great to talk about, become a GOP blame session (or less frequently, a liberal bashing session)...Instead of talking about the issue each side is forced to represent a political affiliation and debate the worthiness of that instead. ------------------ “The good things which belong to prosperity are to be wished, but the good things that belong to adversity are to be admired.” Seneca IP: Logged |
lovely libra Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 10, 2004 12:21 AM
Idon't care which politocal party started it, or how much it helps corporate america. Quit sending American jobs to forign countries. I read somewhere that buisness did this because Americans want to much money for jobs. Well maybee if these same greedy companies didn't over charge for everything we would be able to work for less money. I am in school for computer networking and considering dropping out when told that i would likely have to move to india to get a job in my chosen field. GRRR------------------ ~Renee ~indecision may or may not be my problem IP: Logged |
Harpyr Newflake Posts: 0 From: Alaska Registered: Jun 2010
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posted April 10, 2004 01:29 AM
Isn't it awful, tho?well.. in some ways it's kinda great cause atleast it's something that very often brings "liberals" and "conservatives" together.. Finally! something we can all agree on, right? I mean, nobody likes seeing American jobs disappearing.. the differences usually just lie in the details. Like who's to blame and yada yada. Suuure it's been going on with Clinton, and even Bush sr. it's just different fields at different times. Ever see Roger and Me? All those auto manufacturing jobs vanishing from MI.. Remember when they used to play all those "Buy American" ads? What ever do you think happened to those? Have you ever tried to only buy American? It's impossible unless you are an ascetic. No.. It isn't because Americans demand to be paid exorbitant amounts of money, so much as it is the nature of the corporation to grow- indefinetly. Bear in mind, they have the rights of a regular human citizen of this country and yet they live forever.. this ammassed weath creates a great amount of power over a great amount of people's lives... Now, to continue growth, the logical place to cut corners eventually falls to the human labor sector. Because these corporations are run by boards of directors who are most often far out of touch with the people whom actually create the things that they sell which puts the money in their pockets, it is easier for them to make callous decisions towards their workers. The primary objective of a corporation is NOT to look out for the best interest of it's workers. Never make the mistake of thinking that. It's just not true. This is capitalism we are talkng about here, people. The primary objective of the corporation is PROFIT. Bottome line-------------------------------- Therefore, a board of directors can sit in their 101st story board room and make the decision to fire 10,000 middle class folk, upon whose backs the company's empire is built, and send their production to China where they can pay people $0.13 an hour because this in the most logical way for them to continue seeing a growth in profits. It's sort of like the group rape. Y'know.. how they say men who wouldn't normally rape a woman on their own can be driven by the heat of the moment and the 'group mentality' to do something totally out of character. That's how I see these corporate officers. Now, I'm not blaming the Republicans any more than the Democrats. Afterall, they all have great wealth which comes from, most often, major corporations that they've been intimately involved with. It's what Nader is talking about when he says we need to get the corporations out of washington. I may even despise Democrats more because they pretend to care about this issue and talk like they are going to do something about it but they never do and they continue to be a part of it. Damn Demoblicans. grrrrr okay. *deep breath* end of rant. IP: Logged |
Harpyr Newflake Posts: 0 From: Alaska Registered: Jun 2010
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posted April 10, 2004 08:03 PM
c'mon now.. doesn't anybody have any response to my rant? I'm on to something here aren't I? You all agree with me right? IP: Logged |
Harpyr Newflake Posts: 0 From: Alaska Registered: Jun 2010
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posted April 27, 2004 07:56 PM
hey see, i'm not anti-buisness so much as I'm just anti-coporate.talk to me people. it's not every day anymore that I have a political rant.. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 27, 2004 09:01 PM
Are you sure you're not a wild eyed pinko commie bent on destroying the American way, Mom, apple pie, baseball and the internal combustion engine so America can be restored to it's pristine bucolic ways and a commie workers paradise established in the place of our corporate servitude? Have you ever been here Harpyr. I doubt you would agree with all their positions but they support you on the FTAA. http://www.stoptheftaa.org/ jwhop
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Harpyr Newflake Posts: 0 From: Alaska Registered: Jun 2010
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posted April 28, 2004 02:26 AM
Actually the wild eyed pinko commie bit is all an act to cover up my secret ambition for total world domination, making me Supreme Magnificent High Emperess of all Terra Firma. *begin wicked cackling**cough*cough*ahem.. excuse me..perhaps i've said too much..er..umm. hmmmm.. I haven't seen that particular website, jw. I'll give it a looksie. ------------------ He not busy being born is busy dying :::Bob Dylan IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 28, 2004 03:59 AM
Oh no you don't. I'll flip you for it. Loser gets Tierra del Fuego and an electric blanket. Ummm bring your own electric generator!Have to make adjustments to that title IP: Logged |
Harpyr Newflake Posts: 0 From: Alaska Registered: Jun 2010
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posted April 28, 2004 01:47 PM
Supreme Magnificent High Emperess of Tierra del Fuego would never use an electric blanket. It messes with her chi.------------------ He not busy being born is busy dying :::Bob Dylan IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 28, 2004 04:59 PM
The world's southernmost city is on Tierra del Fuego, so you might want to reconsider that electric blanket. IP: Logged |
Harpyr Newflake Posts: 0 From: Alaska Registered: Jun 2010
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posted April 28, 2004 09:05 PM
yes yes I realize that but you must also consider you are speaking to a born and bred Alaskan here. 40 below zero is what i'm conditioned to expect every winter. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 28, 2004 11:25 PM
OK, guess I didn't know who I was dealing with. So, it's time for the flip of the coin and I have this two headed "Double Eagle". I choose "heads", what's your choice? You realize of course, that if it comes up heads you get Tierra del Fuego and I get everything else---an imminently fair division of the world. Not too late to change your mind about that electric blanket. Tierra del Fuego is a cool and windy land. jwhop IP: Logged |
Harpyr Newflake Posts: 0 From: Alaska Registered: Jun 2010
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posted April 29, 2004 12:47 AM
perfect. I always choose tails. wait, now how does this work? I think we need an impartial third party to flip.... Now, in the event that I do end up in that upside down place, I will be snug and cozy in my straw bale house. No need for the blanket. Sleeping wrapped in an electromagnetic field doesn't sit well with me. *shuder* IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 29, 2004 05:44 PM
Hey, I don't care who flips my two headed Double Eagle. You want tails, OK with me. A straw house Harpyr? My God did you never read The Three Little Pigs story? IP: Logged |