posted April 27, 2004 11:43 PM              

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READ THE PAPER!
YOULL SEE WHAT I MEAN

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posted April 28, 2004 12:47 AM            

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Today, First Minsiter John Heinz Kerry received 100% of the vote in fantasy land. News at 11

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posted April 28, 2004 02:07 AM            

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posted April 28, 2004 02:13 AM            

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posted April 28, 2004 01:04 PM            

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Read the paper indeed. And when you read this one, perhaps you'll come away with an understanding of at least one reason most reasonable people, Democrats and Republicans alike, despise the far left.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/bs20040428.shtml

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posted April 28, 2004 01:17 PM            

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That's heart breaking. No matter what side someone is on the war, it is just EVIL to celebrate the death of one of our own like that.

What is truly in the hearts and minds of an organization or group that spews this hate of our soldiers? It is just sickening.

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posted April 28, 2004 01:19 PM            

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I won't defend such vile garbage as tearing down the memory of a soldier killed in battle. It's disgusting.

I will defend Indymedia, however. Granted, it's open newswire policy opens the door to anyone to post anything and therefore some really extreme viewpoints get posted, many of which I would not agree with- however that's no reason to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Indymedia has also proven an arena for people to report events that pass below the regular media's radar yet nevertheless really need coverage. Wading through some of the garbage that gets posted can be a headache even for me at times (and I'm unabashedly radical leftist in many respects) but there are jewels of information to be found there.

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posted April 28, 2004 01:41 PM            

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I am disgusted by this kind of hypocritical idiocy. This was just one soldier amongst thousands who have served our country during this war, and also just one of the many that have died as well. Yes, part of his death is related to his choice to fight for his country, but I am amazed that people who supposedly want to achieve peace for all would have the gall to revel in death and violence on any side. They have the right to say whatever the want and I will always respect that ... but they have that right thanks to the hundreds of thousands of people who have fought and still fight to defend this country against those who would threaten it and its freedoms. These men and women dying in service to our country also have families and loved ones that they leave behind and no one deserves to have the memory of their loved ones attacked, tainted and besmirched, especially not because of ignorant assumptions of what lead to that tragedy and why. It is sick. If they want to cheer at death then they do not belong on the side of the Americans or the Iraqis ... they belong on the side of the terrorists and Hussein.

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posted April 28, 2004 01:57 PM            

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No body polled me Any of you all get counted?

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posted April 28, 2004 03:02 PM            

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No Juni, I wasn't polled either

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posted April 28, 2004 04:18 PM              

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i agree, too, that this sort of behavior is fierce. people who spew caustic and immature babble like that - from either side of the spectrum - make it doubly hard to enagage in constructive conversation. like harpyr pointed out, it's important to be able to share information freely, but just what do they think they're going to accomplish with that? geez.

tillman sounds like he had the kind of integrity we'd be lucky for all our soldiers to have. whether or not people agree with the reason for us being in afghanistan and iraq there's no need to "celebrate a death," as pidua said.

it's unfortunate, as we see so often even at this site, that free speech doesn't mean that people have to think very hard before they speak.

not all lefties are bad (nor are they all communists )

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posted April 28, 2004 04:22 PM            

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OK most is a relative and inclusive term. Do you insist on being individaully polled?

Do you think your vote would change the outcome?

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posted April 28, 2004 04:37 PM            

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Yes..because I am so lucky - you know being a Sag and all - that my vote would be the one to break a tie...LMAO..sorry - I am feeling quite quipy today...nothing like finding old tissue in formalin from 1978 to make ones day feel totally berzerk LOL...

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posted April 28, 2004 04:39 PM            

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you talking to me jw?

Na, my vote wouldn`t make much of a difference but By being polled, I`d believe that these polls actually exist!

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No matter what side someone is on the war, it is just EVIL to celebrate the death of one of our own like that.

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Amen and Awomen Pid

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posted April 28, 2004 04:46 PM            

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Hmmm, I don't think the division is anywhere close to being even.

Perhaps I should have phrased it differently and said most reasonable people, Democrats and Republicans alike despise the rhetoric of the far left.

Geez Pid, what kind of place is that?

Juniperb, yep I was talking to you and Pid.

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posted April 28, 2004 05:39 PM            

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LOL...jwhop...I am a Sr. Research Associate and we are in the process of cleaning out our 30 year old laboratories. So I am finding all kinds of weird research material from the 70's, 80', and 90's. It is just crazy. At least it ain't bugs...yet...sometimes we come across a cucaracha once in a while.Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww- those little buggers make my skin crawl..well all crunchy bugs make me squirm.

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posted April 28, 2004 05:44 PM            

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cucaracha what is it?

Look at the different answers jwhop. The Sag believes the exist and they can make a difference while the Aqua don`t believe they exist outside of the media.

Want to throw in Leo`s onion.

God.dess I love diversity!!

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posted April 28, 2004 06:56 PM            

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cucaracha = cockroach

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posted April 28, 2004 07:05 PM            

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Thanks Isis, if I`m pronouncing it right, I thought it was a dance

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posted April 28, 2004 07:41 PM            

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That song is the only reason I know what it means.

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posted April 28, 2004 07:58 PM              

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Nope juniperb, I never get polled either.

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posted April 28, 2004 09:11 PM            

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Perhaps I should have phrased it differently and said most reasonable people, Democrats and Republicans alike despise the rhetoric of the far left.

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Fair enough. Most reasonable people despise the rhetoric of the far right as well. Theres whackos at either extreme.

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posted April 28, 2004 11:40 PM            

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Fair enough. Most reasonable people despise the rhetoric of the far right as well. Theres whackos at either extreme.

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Fair enough indeed but you forget, it isn't the right that attacks the essence of the individual. That makes it very personal and the incessant attacks against the right to even breathe the air comes from the left.

Those on the right focus on the policy and not on the individual.

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posted April 29, 2004 12:42 AM            

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oh i don't know about that.. what about the crazy right wing fundamentalist Xians? The sort that murder homosexuals and abortion doctors. They are pretty good at targeting individuals.

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posted April 29, 2004 12:49 AM              

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Extremists aren't popular. Period.
Well... at least, not outside of their extremist circles.....

Good point Harpyr

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