posted May 09, 2004 01:36 AM            

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It's been my experience that OZ somehow reads a personal insult into everything, even if one is adressing someone else, or even says outright that it was not about him. It seems to me that he seeks to make everything about him somehow, an attention ***** perhaps? I don't know, I'm not a psychiatrist, nevertheless, I personally would categorize OZs posts as "rabid", his manner as confrontational, snide, and belittling, yet when someone even comes near slinging it back at him, he cries foul.

I invite you all to put your issues (meaning political views, points etc) aside and look at the consistent manner of his communications, regardless of whatever issue he's speaking on. Then compare it to someone like Tink or Eleanore, who from my observation tend to often hold the same beliefs, yet express it in a largely unoffensive manner (contrary to OZ). I mean, seriously, political beliefs aside, look at the contentious, snide, antagonistic way in which he communicates compared to others who share his beliefs. I think you will find some HUGE differences.

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posted May 09, 2004 02:35 AM            

Tail slinging Scorpio theatrics!!!

I'll pop the popcorn!!!!

posted May 10, 2004 01:10 AM            

No need to ban yourself and no one else here wants you banned We're just beginning to get used to your theatrics.

Besides, I'm a Leo, Scorp rising and I've gone off in some situations to eat some worms myself. I can tell you first hand, they're not all that tasty.

posted May 10, 2004 01:38 AM            

Thank you!

posted May 10, 2004 11:47 PM            

Aw Ozone,smell the flowers. There`s NO vote against you so um, er, ah ... well, why insist ? The chads would be fuller sheet too .

posted May 11, 2004 02:02 AM            

We are secrets to each other
Each one's life a novel
No one else has read
Even joined in bonds of love
We're linked to one another
By such slender threads

We are planets to each other
Drifting in our orbits
To a brief eclipse
Each of us a world apart
Alone and yet together
Like two passing ships

[Chorus:]
Just between us
I think it's time for us to recognize
The differences we sometimes fear to show
Just between us
I think it's time for us to realize
The spaces in between
Leave room for you and I to grow

We are strangers to each other
Full of sliding panels
An illusion show
Acting well rehearsed routines
Or playing from the heart?
It's hard for one to know

[Chorus]

We are islands to each other
Building hopeful bridges
On a troubled sea
Some are burned or swept away
Some we would not choose
But we're not always free

[Chorus]

posted May 11, 2004 02:10 AM            

Who's come to slay the dragon?
Come to watch him fall?
Making arrows out of pointed words
Giant killers at the call?
Too much fuss and bother
Too much contradiction and confusion
Peel away the mystery
Here's a clue to some real motivation

[Chorus:]
All there really is
The two of us
And we both know why we've come along
Nothing to explain
It's a part of us
To be found within a song

What happened to our innocence
Did it go out of style?
Along with our naivete
No longer a child
Different eyes see different things
Different hearts beat on different strings
But there are times
For you and me, when all such things agree

[Chorus]

posted May 11, 2004 02:12 AM            

Unstable condition
A symptom of life
In mental and environmental change
Atmospheric disturbance
The feverish flux
Of human interface and interchange

The impulse is pure
Sometimes our circuits get shorted
By external interference
Signals get crossed
And the balance distorted
By internal incoherence

A tired mind become a shape-shifter
Everybody need a mood lifter
Everybody need reverse polarity
Everybody got mixed feelings
About the function and the form
Everybody got to deviate from the norm

An ounce of perception
A pound of obscure
Process information at half speed
Pause, rewind, replay
Warm memory chip
Random sample, hold the one you need

Leave out the fiction
The fact is, this friction
Will only be worn by persistence
Leave out conditions
Courageous convictions
Will drag the dream into existence

A tired mind become a shape-shifter
Everybody need a soft filter
Everybody need reverse polarity
Everybody got mixed feelings
About the function and the form
Everybody got to elevate from the norm...

posted May 11, 2004 01:56 PM            

Wear the grudge like a crown of negativity.
Calculate what we will or will not tolerate.
Desperate to control all and everything.
Unable to forgive your scarlet lettermen.

Clutch it like a cornerstone. Otherwise it all comes down.
Justify denials and grip 'em to the lonesome end.
Clutch it like a cornerstone. Otherwise it all comes down.
Terrified of being wrong. Ultimatum prison cell.

Saturn ascends, choose one or ten. Hang on or be humbled again.

Clutch it like a cornerstone. Otherwise it all comes down.
Justify denials and grip 'em to the lonesome end.
Saturn ascends, comes round again.
Saturn ascends, the one, the ten. Ignorant to the damage done.

Wear the grudge like a crown of negativity.
Calculate what we will or will not tolerate.
Desperate to control all and everything.
Unable to forgive your scarlet lettermen.

Wear the grudge like a crown. Desperate to control.
Unable to forgive. And we're sinking deeper.

Defining, confining, controlling, and we're sinking deeper.

Saturn comes back around to show you everything
Let's you choose what you will not see and then
Drags you down like a stone or lifts you up again
Spits you out like a child, light and innocent.

Saturn comes back around. Lifts you up like a child or
Drags you down like a stone
To consume you till you choose to let this go.

Give away the stone.
Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor.
Give away the stone.
Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold.
Let go.

-Maynard James Keenan (Tool)

That is dedicated to you OZ ...

posted May 12, 2004 11:16 PM              

...AND THIS TOO...

posted May 12, 2004 11:22 PM              

Knowing full well, there are those here who won't be happy with what I'm about to do, I take the risk and post my favorite picture of our fearless leader, anyway...

posted May 13, 2004 12:11 AM            

Thank you Isis,your so kind!

posted May 13, 2004 12:45 AM            

OH WELL

Just crawl under my skin like the maggot that you are!

Look out folks,don't speak your liberal views,or you'll get the same like I'm getting right now from these people!

...and this is debate?