posted June 18, 2004 06:11 PM              

I took a 'pass' on seeing that, because the concept alone was enough for me. I didn't require any visual aids to reinforce my opinion on it.

But, I also understand the compulsion people have to see things for themselves, even disturbing things....kind of like how we all tend to "rubberneck" at accident scenes.

posted June 19, 2004 05:20 PM              

Life is terrible these days.

posted June 19, 2004 11:35 PM              

I agree with lioneye (which I've noticed happening more and more though I don't think we've ever spoken directly ... Pleased to make your acquaintance Lioneye )

Sometimes you have know, even though your own curiosity is driving you, that seeing these things will effect your consiousness.

I know I couldn't stomach watching any of the brutal things happening in the world today. I also have trouble with violence in movies. I get really scared. My husband thinks it's cute the way I hide my face behind my hands and as him what's happening Even stage brutality is very offensive to me.

posted June 20, 2004 08:44 AM            

BTW, I miss you here!!

I don`t watch brutality period. Each to their own but I`m with Lioneye on this one.

juniperb

posted June 20, 2004 12:12 PM              

Hey juniperb.

posted June 20, 2004 06:21 PM              

LMAO ... hand horror like that over to children.

posted June 21, 2004 10:45 PM            

I mean look, we are in war right now,why is it that other countries are building and bringing they're people over there unprotected by any amount of authority and are being sacrificed (as an offering) from Halliburton to Al-quaida as a mechanism to gain further support of the war?

Oxy please, lets look at some things here realistically, do you really believe that any of the kids today (to be PC savvy enough)don't already know how to get on all the hot websites,that can access such things? I know what exactly of what you are talking about,but to think that the young people today don't already know how to go around they're parents (or anyother pears,in that matter),is almost like an insult,not to them,but to us,for being so naive!

posted June 22, 2004 12:08 AM            

Paul Johnson worked for Lockheed Martin, not for Haliburton.

Kim Sun-il is a translator for a Korean firm and does not work for Haliburton.

posted June 22, 2004 06:06 AM              

And before you go off on some godforsaken tirade, imagine that that was your friend or loved one being shown, paraded after being massacred; that whether because that person was stationed over in that part of the world (as, by his Flight Commander's account, will my husband be shortly after flight school), they went over seeking fortune (as people are getting paid a small one to work there at this point in time), or was sent over by whatever company for which they work (as my father was sent to Riyad just last fall by General Dynamics - not to do anyone's "dirty work", but to help set things up to establish a comprehensive wireless network for the Saudis) they were there and were beheaded or dragged through the streets, burnt, for that fact.

posted June 22, 2004 07:14 AM              

Some of those orgininally sent over (and who were to be brought home last summer) had their deployments extended until last year's holiday season or shortly beyond because the conflict was significantly greater than anticipated by some of the top civilian leadership. (That was the first extension you probably heard about.)

Currently, deployments to the middle east are set at a year, and are unit-wide rather than person-by-person (that is, Brigade X is sent over or sent home rather than person after person in order to maintain unit integrity and cohesion), but, in light of escalating violence leading over to the June 30th transfer of power, deployment was increased by about 120 days for troops that were to be cycled out. New troops were coming in to replace them, but it was decided to keep the old ones in as well to increase troop strength.
Stop-loss measures have also been put into effect in order to keep experienced NCOs and officers in the ranks for the duration of their units' deployment (both for those over there and for those about to go); these prevent them from retiring or ETSing (leaving after a particular enlistment) until they cycle back home.