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ozonefiller
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posted June 22, 2004 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Militants Kill South Korean Hostage in Iraq
U.S. Launches Airstrikes on Building Used by Followers of Terrorist
By TODD PITMAN, AP



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Kim Sun-il pleaded for his life in a video that Arab television aired Sunday.

(June 22) -- Islamic militants beheaded a Korean hostage Tuesday after South Korea refused to cancel a troop deployment to Iraq, and the U.S. military launched an airstrike against a safehouse used by the kidnap group, which is led by the country's most wanted terrorist.

Hostage Kim Sun-il died just hours after a go-between said the killing had been delayed and there were negotiations for his release.

Hours later, the United States launched an airstrike in Fallujah building used by followers of Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - the second strike against the terror network in three days, the U.S. military said.

Al-Zarqawi's Monotheism and Jihad movement was believed to be behind the beheading of Kim.

The South Korean Foreign Ministry confirmed that Kim had been killed but did not say he was beheaded. However, Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, coalition deputy operations chief, said the body of an Asian male was found west of Baghdad on Tuesday evening.

''It appears that the body had been thrown from a vehicle,'' Kimmitt said in a statement. ''The man had been beheaded, and the head was recovered with the body.''

Kimmitt said the strike involved precision weapons to ''target and destroy'' the safehouse and was based on ''multiple confirmations of actionable intelligence.''

Large explosions rocked the restive Sunni Muslim city west of Baghdad. Ambulances raced to the area after the 10:30 p.m. blasts. Wounded and dead were being evacuated, said Iraqi Police Col. Mekky Zeidan. Al-Jazeera TV reported that three people were killed and six were wounded.

Kim's body was found by the U.S. military between Baghdad and Fallujah, 22 miles west of the capital, at 5:20 p.m. Iraq time, said South Korean Foreign Ministry spokesman Shin Bong-kil.

After news of Kim's death broke, South Korean television showed Kim's distraught family members weeping and rocking back and forth with grief at their home in the southeastern port city of Busan.

''I don't want to die, I don't want to die,'' Kim pleaded in a first video released by his captors Sunday as he begged his government to end its involvement in Iraq.

The South Korean embassy in Baghdad confirmed that the body was Kim's by studying a picture of the remains it received by e-mail, Shin said.

''It breaks our heart that we have to announce this unfortunate news,'' Shin said.

Kim, 33, worked for Gana General Trading Co., a South Korean company supplying the U.S. military in Iraq. He was abducted last week, according to the South Korean government.

The videotape of Kim, apparently made shortly before his death, showed him kneeling, blindfolded and wearing an orange jumpsuit similar to those issued to prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Five hooded men stood behind Kim, one reading a statement and gesturing with his right hand. Another captor had a big knife slipped in his belt.

One of the masked men said the message was intended for the Korean people. ''This is what your hands have committed. Your army has not come here for the sake of Iraqis, but for cursed America.''

The video as broadcast did not show Kim being executed.

Al-Jazeera said the video claimed the execution was carried out by the al-Qaida-linked group Monotheism and Jihad.

President Bush condemned the beheading of a South Korean hostage as ''barbaric'' Tuesday and said he remained confident that South Korea would go ahead with plans to send thousands of troops to Iraq.

''The free world cannot be intimidated by the brutal actions of these barbaric people,'' the president said.

The grisly killing was reminiscent of the decapitation of American businessman Nicholas Berg, who was beheaded last month on a videotape posted on an Al-Qaida-linked Web site by the same group, which claimed responsibility for Kim's death.

In Saudi Arabia, American helicopter technician Paul M. Johnson Jr., 49, was kidnapped by al-Qaida militants who followed through on a threat to kill him if the kingdom did not release its al-Qaida prisoners. An al-Qaida group claiming responsibility posted an Internet message that showed photographs of Johnson's severed head.

Al-Jazeera did not say when Kim was killed.

Kim's kidnappers had initially threatened to kill him at sundown Monday unless South Korea canceled a troop deployment to Iraq. The Seoul government rejected the demand, standing firm with plans to dispatch 3,000 soldiers starting in August.

Kim Chun-ho, president of Gana General Trading, the company that employed the victim, were traveling to the site to collect the remains, Shin said.

South Korea convened its National Security Council at 2 a.m. to discuss the government's reaction, Shin said. Later, the government reaffirmed it would send troops to Iraq as planned, but ordered all its nonessential civilians to leave Iraq as soon as possible.

NKTS, a South Korean security firm doing business in Iraq, told the AP in Baghdad earlier Tuesday that Kim was still alive and that negotiations for his release continued, with the company president expected to arrive in Baghdad from Seoul by Wednesday.

In a dispatch from Baghdad, South Korea's Yonhap news agency quoted an ''informed source'' as saying that negotiations with the kidnappers collapsed over the South Korean government's refusal to drop its plan to send troops.

''As a condition for starting negotiations for Kim's release, the kidnappers demanded that South Korea announce that it would retract its troop dispatch plan,'' the source was quoted as saying. ''This was a condition the South Korean government could not accept. As the talks bogged down, the kidnappers apparently resorted to an extreme measure.''

Also Tuesday, gunmen opened fire on a U.S. military convoy north of the capital, killing two American soldiers and wounding a third, the military said.

The convoy was attacked by small arms fire at 12:45 p.m. near Balad, 50 miles from Baghdad, the military said in a statement.

U.S. officials, meanwhile, said they would hand legal custody of Saddam Hussein and an undetermined number of former regime figures to the interim government as soon as Iraqi courts issue warrants for their arrest and request the transfer.

However, the United States will retain physical custody of Saddam and the prisoners, while giving Iraqi prosecutors and defense lawyers access to them, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

A car bomb exploded in a Baghdad residential neighborhood near the international airport Tuesday, killing three people, including a 3-year-old girl, and wounding six other Iraqis, said Maj. Phil Smith, a U.S. military spokesman.

U.S. troops sealed off the area after the late afternoon explosion, but neither American nor Iraqi security forces were in the area at the time of the blast, witnesses said. Three cars were burned and several shops were damaged in the Amiriya neighborhood.

On Monday, a mortar attack in Baghdad and two assaults on U.S. forces northeast of the capital killed one soldier and wounded nine others, the military said, as militants showed no sign of easing their attacks ahead of next week's transfer of sovereignty.

The recent abductions and attacks appear aimed at undermining the interim Iraqi government set to take power June 30, when the U.S.-led occupation formally ends.

Coalition spokesman Dan Senor said that by week's end, all Iraqi government ministries would be under full Iraqi control.

The coalition official who briefed reporters about the prisoner custody issue said the Americans will keep Saddam and others under U.S. guard even after the June 30 handover because the Iraqi government does not yet have capacity to hold such prisoners, the official said.

U.S. troops captured Saddam in December near his hometown of Tikrit.

U.S. authorities Tuesday released three busloads of prisoners from the notorious Abu Ghraib detention center, bringing the total number set free in the last two months to more than 2,000. The prison is at the center of a scandal over abuse of inmates by U.S. troops.


06-22-04 17:19EDT

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Now can we get all of the civilians(from all the other countries) the hELL
out of the Mid-east?

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jwhop
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posted June 22, 2004 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No Ozone, we really can't get all the civilians the hell out of the Middle East. They're there to do a job and they're doing just that.

Just because you can't understand the stakes involved doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. On the contrary, it must and will be done.

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posted June 23, 2004 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah JW, tell that to the poor families that have members dying over there in the Middle east,thinking that they are going to come back home with some GOOD pay and end up coming back in a body bag!
BUSH NEEDS TO GET THEM THE hELL OUT OF THERE!

YESTERDAY!

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posted June 23, 2004 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, yes, yes Ozone. All the friends of Saddam say the same thing. Surrender artists one and all.

With that kind of thinking Ozone:

America would still be a British colony.
German would be the official language of Europe.
The Pacific basin would be part of the Japanese Empire.

Of fools, the ambitious and traitors
Marcus Tullius Cicero

A nation can survive its fools,
and even the ambitious.
But it cannot survive treason from within.
An enemy at the gates is less formidable,
for he is known and carries his banner openly.
But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely,
his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys,
heard in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor;
he speaks in accents familiar to his victims,
and he wears their face and their arguments,
he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.
He rots the soul of a nation,
he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city,
he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.
A murderer is less to fear.

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posted June 23, 2004 10:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If we succumb to their terror tactics, they've won. Many do, and they win often. That's why they employ these tactics. Few can stomache the brutality they are capeable of. That's all the more reason to NOT back down.

You can't back down and run home every time someone is mean to you. You dig in and get mean back. But, you do it with integrity, and without stooping to their level.

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posted June 23, 2004 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes lioneye, the sky is always falling for the weak and fearful.

The terrorists did learn something important from the Spanish......that they can influence elections with terror tactics.

And here, we find the same "Chicken Little" mindset in some who should know better.

The "Chicken Littles" are always among us. Fortunately, the President isn't listening to them or the weak and cowardly democrats in Congress.

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posted June 24, 2004 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only in Jwhop's and Bush's world does it imply that caring for unarmed civilians in a foreign country only entails that this person must be a cowardice, un-American traitor!

GIVE ME A BREAK!

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posted June 24, 2004 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Ozone, why would I think you give a damn about killing unarmed civilians. Saddam killed about a million Muslims and you and your friends turned yourselves inside out to protect him and keep him in power so he could continue killing about 5000 per month, on average.

You do realize how phony your argument sounds, don't you Ozone?

What kind of break do you want, simple or compound?

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posted June 24, 2004 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well why did Bush Sr. not take him out then,if Saddam was such menice to the Iraqis and the Bush family cared about them so much.

Oh,BTW,do you remember bin Laden? It seems that now-a-dayz Twiggy doesn't even mention him anymore hardly!

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Some of our airhead writers seem to forget, George W Bush is President of the United States, not Europe, not Asia, not Africa, not the Middle East, just the United States. There's a large contingent of "others" who seem to forget that too.

BUT...

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Well Ozone, why would I think you give a damn about killing unarmed civilians. Saddam killed about a million Muslims and you and your friends turned yourselves inside out to protect him and keep him in power so he could continue killing about 5000 per month, on average.

You must be amongst that percentage that forgot,but Bush seems to be doing a great job of taking everything away from the Americans and giving it all to the Mid-east,more and more!

Why is that?

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posted June 24, 2004 02:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taking everything from Americans and giving it to the Middle East?!

What are you, nuts?!

Please list some examples of what has been taken from us and given to them, Ozone.

I can't wait to hear this...

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posted June 24, 2004 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like I said LibraSparkle, "Your full of fire,right now" are you sure that your a Liberal,because you could of fooled me or maybe Jwhop has convinced you not to be and all that ended up going out the window.

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posted June 24, 2004 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I'm not going to waste all my time making up some list (like I did before,it didn't work anyway).You might as well read all of my posts for that,because I got better things to do, rather then sit here and let my plea fall on deaf ears!

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posted June 24, 2004 11:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only thing jwhop has convinced me of, dear Ozone, is that you spout off a bunch of nonsense, and aren't even capable of backing it up when you're called out on it. (Well, that and he might make a decent movie date, with popcorn, cookies and milk )

And yes, Ozone... I am a Liberal. I'm just not closed minded. I'm willing to read other people's posts and take something away from them... regaurdless of political offiliation. If you think the Liberals are the only one's telling you the truth, you're living in a fantasy land.

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Ozone, with all due respect...
If your beef is all about innocent, unarmed civilians being slaughtered, then why do you not want to see the al-Qaida network destroyed? Innocent, unarmed civilians is ALL THEY EVER TARGET....including, and most especially AMERICAN CIVILIANS...of which you are one. You need to know who your real enemies are, Ozone.

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posted June 24, 2004 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only thing that I've ever learned about Libras in life is that most of them are the biggest traitors of the zodiac and are often always confused on who they're friends are! They'll always take up sides to the ones that appeal to them for the time being(until they end up stabbed in the back by they're enimies,in the end) and that's why the rest of the world often conciders them "air-heads"!

If I was a Liberal LibraSparkle, I would be watching my back around you!

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posted June 24, 2004 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioneye68, who the hELL ever said that I didn't want to see the Al-quaida Network destroyed???!!!! Who the hELL has been feeding that crap to you??!! What, because I think that Twiggy is doing a sh*tty job on fighting the war on terror,that you people think that I sympathize with terrorists? WHAT THE BLOODY hELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE???!!!!

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posted June 24, 2004 03:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who's Twiggy? And what do you suggest they do differently?

Don't yell at me k?

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I hear you Ozone.
WHAT THE BLOODY hELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE???!!!!
I can't return to this Golbal u part of the forum. Way too frustrating. Big waste of energy.


People believe what they will and bash others if it doesnt fit in with their views. And add their own words and make assumptions, jump to conclusions too often just to feed their ego and think THEY are right.
I don't care what you people beleive, and that you can't accept that other's have differnent POV's and maybe because they are not yours - does'nt mean they have to be wrong?

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posted June 24, 2004 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so sick and tired of being falsely accused of some pretty heavy,libel,allegations about what I feel about what! For all the time that I've been on this site, nobody knows sh*t about me still! So, if I'm yelling at you Lioneye,reread you own post and you tell me why I'm yelling.

You tell me Lioneye,where in any country's(or countries that you know of) right mind did you ever hear about rebuilding a country before "post-war"? Why do we have civilians(that are ill-prepared,unarmed and untrained in combat and is ordered NOT to exercise the use of combat in these warzones)? I'll tell you why,because the Bush administration is using these poor folks(as not only as money making profiteers of labor),but also as bodysheilds for terrorist to be "smokescreened" and Bush having another way to use the tragities of the fates of these civilians that can further example the reasons why we are in war in the first place! It's not working and more and more evidence is being found by the "board commissions" that only contrast against the administrations agendas!

Twiggy is just another stupid name for our stupid president,along with other stupid names for the Dumb-@$$!

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posted June 24, 2004 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you 26taurus, welcome aboard this "Ship of Love" called Lindaland!

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GAWD, you hate Bush. Now you're saying that what the terrorists are doing to civilians (slicing their heads off) is actually a contrived, diabolical plan of GW's, so that he can ...benefit in some way? (but I'm not clear on how you figure he's benefitting, exactly - he's orchestrating the kidnappings in order to smoke out the terrorists? How does that work? And how is he making money off of the civilian trades-men and contractors? Their income taxes? Huh? That doesn't seem worth it to me.

You hate him so much, that you sound delusional with loathing toward the man. He can do no good in your eyes. You're no longer (were you ever?) an objective political thinker. You are a man with a deep deep loathing, a loathing that you can't really justify with facts and logic.

That can't be good for you, Ozone. You have to let it go, for the sake of your own mental/physical health. Care, but don't lose your mind over it. You'll make yourself sick eventually. Don't forget about the body/soul connection. The body responds to whatever kind of energy you're giving off, and if it's all negative, sooner or later, you're going to wind up with cancer or something.

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I should be watching my back around whom, Ozone? Lioneye? We have no beef. Some of our opinions are different, but Lioneye and I also agree on many different issues.

I do not feel the same out of control hostility coming from Lioneye's posts, as I feel coming from yours.

Ozone, if I were you, I'd heed Lioneye's advice and watch your back around yourself. You will bring upon your own demise if you don't settle down.

In this forum, we debate political issues. Some people can take it, other's can't handle someone strongly disagreeing with other's opinions. We all have opinions that differ... some of us get along nicely, and yet others can't seem to take the heat. Passions run high in a forum like this. Especially since (it seems to me) mainly, the majority of people that make their points intelligably come from the right. That is quite unfortunate for us lefties. There are many lefties here that get entirely too caught up in the emotions of their posts ( I myself have been guilty of just that). We should take a lesson from our friends here on the right about how we post and respond.

Things like So There! neener neener you can't spell belongs in Romper Room, not Global Unity. It does nothing to clear the air. It only perpetuates animosity and gets you negative attention. If you don't want negative attention, maybe you should REALLY think about what you're going to say before you post it.

I have learned a lesson about keeping emotion out of debate. It has no place here. If you can't keep emotion out of the debate, then maybe debate is not for you.

We're not here to stroke each other's egos and agree wholeheartedly with what everyone says. People ARE going to disagree with you and not be afraid to call you out. I have been on both ends of it... jwhop, you're great for that . I have learned a lot about the righties and lefties after taking part in this board. We both have valuable input to offer. What I see is that the lefties REFUSE to hear anything the righties are saying because their minds are closed. This saddens me because one thing the lefties supposedly pride themselves so much on is open-mindedness. I wish we had more open-minded lefties here.

26T, I'm sure you probably think I'm closed-minded to your right not to vote. That's not the case at all. I know the reasons you don't vote. I've heard them a million times. The fact of the matter is that I simply disagree with you. My mind isn't closed, but already been there done that and bought the t-shirt. I've learned my personal lessons, much as you have. We have come away from it with different opinions. I'm not going to try to change your mind (anymore). I hope that we can just agree to disagree on this heated topic.

I've enjoyed reading many of your posts. You have a lot of insight to offer.

I wish you bright blessings and peace, 26T, and I hope we can come away from this understanding each other better ... not holding on to resentments.

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Ozone... Re: Libra=air head...

I can think of an A word that tends to suit a lot of unevolved Scorps. Maybe it would suit you too.

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posted June 24, 2004 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And what would suit a B word for?! And while your at it, why don't you define C,D, and E! F can even suffice!

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