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Rainbow~
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posted July 15, 2004 09:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

A new book by a prominent Washington psychoanalyst says President George W. Bush is a "paranoid meglomaniac" as well as a sadist and "untreated alcoholic." The doctor's analysis appears to confirm earlier reports the President may be emotionally unstable.

Dr. Justin Frank, writing in Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President, also says the President has a ""lifelong streak of sadism, ranging from childhood pranks (using firecrackers to explode frogs) to insulting journalists, gloating over state executions ... [and] pumping his fist gleefully before the bombing of Baghdad."

Even worse, Dr. Frank concludes, the President's years of heavy drinking ""may have affected his brain function - and his decision to quit drinking without the help of a 12-step program [puts] him at far higher risk of relapse."

Dr. Frank's revelations comes on the heels of last week's Capitol Hill Blue exclusive <http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml> that revealed increasing concern by White House aides over Bush's emotional stability.

Aides, who spoke only on condition that their names be withheld, told stories of wide mood swings by the President who would go from quoting the Bible one minute to obscenity-filled outbursts the next.
Bush shows an inability to grieve - dating back to age 7, when his sister died. "The family's reaction - no funeral and no mourning - set in motion his life-long pattern of turning away from pain [and hiding] behind antic behavior," says Frank, who says Bush may suffer from Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.

Other findings by Dr. Frank:

**His mother, Barbara Bush - tabbed by some family friends as "the one who instills fear" - had trouble connecting emotionally with her son, Frank argues.

**George H.W. Bush's "emotional and physical absence during his son's youth triggered feelings of both adoration and revenge in George W."

**The President suffers from "character pathology," including "grandiosity" and "megalomania" -- viewing himself, America and God as interchangeable.

Dr. Frank has been a psychiatrist for 35 years and is director of psychiatry at George Washington University. A Democrat, he once headed the Washington Chapter of Physicians for Social Responsibility.
In an interview with The Washington Post's Richard Leiby, Dr. Frank said he began to be concerned about Bush's behavior in 2002.
"I was really very unsettled by him and I started watching everything he did and reading what he wrote, and watching him on videotape. I felt he was disturbed," Dr. Frank told Leiby. Bush, he said, "fits the profile of a former drinker whose alcoholism has been arrested but not treated."
Dr. Frank's expert recommendation? ""Our sole treatment option -- for his benefit and for ours -- is to remove President Bush from office . . . before it is too late."

White House spokesman Scott McClellan refused to comment on the specifics of Dr. Frank's book or the earlier story by Capitol Hill Blue.

"I don't do book reviews," McClellan said, even though he last week recommended the latest book by the Washington Post's Bob Woodward to reporters at the daily press briefing.

© Copyright 2004 by Capitol Hill Blue

NOW THAT, REASSURING!


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lioneye68
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posted July 15, 2004 09:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, Rainbow...big deal. I'm sure there are 500 phychiatrists who wouldn't agree.

But, Dr.'s are allowed to have opinions too.

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Rainbow~
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posted July 15, 2004 10:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course they are, lioneye...

...but the opinion of a psychiatrist (a Dr. of the mind, who has had many years training) CARRIES AN AWFUL LOT OF WEIGHT...with me...

I'm no Dr., but I get a "creepy" feeling everytime I see that man BUSH on TV...call it a "gut feeling," if you will...(the man creeps me out! ) And this was way before I learned of the good Dr.'s observations.

I don't see sincerity there; I don't see heart, I don't see warmth, I don't even see great intelligence....

.....I see a cocky, arrogant, self righteous, know it all, ego maniac!...and at the "head" of our country yet...*sigh*

I am not comfortable with that man "leading" (or I should say misleading) our country...

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lioneye68
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posted July 15, 2004 11:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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...but the opinion of a psychiatrist (a Dr. of the mind, who has had many years training) CARRIES AN AWFUL LOT OF WEIGHT...with me...

What if it was a certified psychologist who disagreed with this one? I bet his/her opinion wouldn't hold a single ounce of weight with you.

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posted July 15, 2004 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dr. Justin Frank is a quack, a quack who diagnoses someone without ever having spoken to them and that's against every tenet of the profession and a cardinal sin.

Dr. Frank is a weak and insecure personality with an identity problem, motivated by a desire to sell his book, hence the controversial title "Bush on the Couch". A secondary motivation is to elevate himself by bringing down someone he recognizes as a more powerful personality. Beyond that is the desire for his 15 minutes of fame.

My diagnosis of Frank is far more accurate than Frank's diagnosis of the President and I'm not even charging him for the diagnosis. Treatment options include electroshock, testosterone injections and goal setting whereby Frank can accomplish some simple tasks to build his self image.

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Rainbow~
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posted July 16, 2004 12:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What if it was a certified psychologist who disagreed with this one? I bet his/her opinion wouldn't hold a single ounce of weight with you.

You're right, lioneye. It wouldn't...

First of all, I pick up my own "vibes" from this man and they're scarey....so if what the Dr. says coincides with my instincts, it just validates my own feelings...*sigh*

Secondly, a certified psychologist does not have the training of a psychiatrist.

You can be a psychologist with a Masters degree, but a psychiatrist has to be a medical doctor before he/she can go on to become a psychiatrist, so having already heard from the psychiatrist (with far more training), I'm not going to take the word of a mere psychologist.

...and even if another psychiartrist were to challence the book....I would go with my "gut feeling."

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Rainbow~
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posted July 16, 2004 12:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop.........thanks for your opinion of Dr. Frank....

Now I'll give mine.....

I believe he's a man who hit the nail right on the head!

He's doing us a service by revealing what he has observed. and recommending that for Bush's benefit and ours......he should be removed from office....before it is too late...

Rainbow

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Rainbow~
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posted July 16, 2004 12:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH LOOKY! I FOUND ANOTHER ARTICLE ON THE BOOK.....

George W. Bush -
Presidential Or Pathological?


By Arianna Huffington
7-15-4

That is the highly provocative question being asked in "Bush on the Couch," a new book in which psychoanalyst and George Washington University professor Dr. Justin Frank uses the president's public pronouncements and behavior, along with biographical data, to craft a comprehensive psychological profile of Bush.

It's not a pretty picture, but it goes a long way in explaining how exactly our country got itself into the mess we are in: an intractable war, the loss of allies and international goodwill, a half-trillion-dollar deficit.

Poking around in the presidential psyche, Frank uncovers a man suffering from megalomania, paranoia, a false sense of omnipotence, an inability to manage his emotions, a lifelong need to defy authority, an unresolved love-hate relationship with his father, and the repercussions of a history of untreated alcohol abuse.

Other than that, George Bush is the picture of psychological health.

One of the more compelling sections of the book is Frank's dissection of what he calls Bush's "almost pathological aversion to owning up to his infractions" - a mindset common to individuals Freud termed "the Exceptions," those who feel "entitled to live outside the limitations that apply to ordinary people."

Limitations like, for instance, not driving while drunk. Or the limitation of having to report for required Air National Guard duty. Or the limitation of having to adhere to international law.


And it doesn't help one outgrow this sense of entitlement when Daddy and his pals are always there to rescue you when you get in trouble - whether it's keeping you out of Vietnam by bumping you to the top of the National Guard waiting list or bailing you out of lousy business deals with cushy seats on corporate boards or making sure the votes in Florida (just another limitation) aren't properly counted.

But you don't make it as far as W. has without some psychological defenses of your own - especially when it comes to insulating yourself against your own fears and insecurities.

Raised in a family steeped in privilege and secrecy, and prone to the intense aversion to introspection and denial of responsibility that are the hallmarks of a so-called dry drunk - one who has kicked the bottle without dealing with the root causes of the addiction - Bush has become a master of the psychological jiu-jitsu known as Freudian Projection.

For those of you who bailed on Psych 101, Freudian Projection is, according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, a defense mechanism in which "the individual deals with emotional conflict or internal or external stressors by falsely attributing to another his or her own unacceptable feelings, impulses or thoughts."

In layman's terms, it's the soot-stained pot calling the kettle "black."

On the 2004 campaign trail, it's the pathologically inconsistent Bush attempting to portray John Kerry as a two-faced flip-flopper.

It's become the Bush-Cheney campaign mantra. GOP talking points 1 through 100. The president's go-to laugh and applause line:

"Senator Kerry has been in Washington long enough to take both sides on just about every issue," chided Bush at a spring fundraiser. "My opponent clearly has strong beliefs, they just don't last very long." Ba-da-bum! (Incidentally, how is this consistent with Bush's other contention, that Kerry is a rock-ribbed liberal?)

Or as Dick "Not Peaches and Cream" Cheney ominously put it at a Republican fundraiser: "These are not times for leaders who shift with the political winds, saying one thing one day and another the next."

I couldn't f---ing agree more, Mr. Cheney. But it's your man George W. who can't seem to pick a position and stick to it. He's reversed course more times than Capt. Kirk battling Khan in the midst of the Mutara Nebula. Gone back on his word more times than Tony Blundetto. Flip-flopped more frequently than a blind gymnast with an inner-ear infection.

The list of Bush major policy U-turns is as audacious as it is long. Among the whiplash-inducing lowlights:

In September 2001, Bush said capturing bin Laden was "our number one priority." By March 2002, he was claiming, "I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important."

In October 2001, he was dead-set against the need for a Department of Homeland Security. Seven months later, he thought it was a great idea.

In May 2002, he opposed the creation of the 9/11 Commission. Four months later, he supported it.

During the 2000 campaign, he said that gay marriage was a states' rights issue: "The states can do what they want to do." During the 2004 campaign, he called for a constitutional ban on gay marriage.

Dizzy yet? No? OK:

Bush supported CO2 caps, then opposed them. He opposed trade tariffs, then he didn't. Then he did again. He was against nation building, then he was OK with it. We'd found WMD, then we hadn't. Saddam was linked to Osama, then he wasn't. Then he was sorta. Chalabi was in, then he was out. Way out.

In fact, Bush's entire Iraq misadventure has been one big costly, deadly flip-flop:

We didn't need more troops, then we did. We didn't need more money, then we did. Preemption was a great idea - on to Syria, Iran and North Korea! Then it wasn't - hello, diplomacy! Baathists were the bad guys, then Baathists were our buds. We didn't need the U.N., then we did.

And all this from a man who, once upon a time, made "credibility" a key to his appeal.

Now, God knows, I have no problem with changing your mind - so long as you admit that you have and can explain why. But Bush steadfastly - almost comically - refuses to admit that there's been a change, even when the entire world can plainly see otherwise. He's got his story and he's sticking to it. But that darn Kerry, he keeps shifting his positions!

At the end of his analysis, Dr. Frank offers the following prescription: "Having seen the depth and range of President Bush's psychological flaws our sole treatment option - for his benefit and for ours - is to remove President Bush from office."

You don't need to be a psychiatrist to heartily second that opinion.

© 2004 ARIANNA HUFFINGTON.

ww.fanaticsandfools.org DISTRIBUTED BY TRIBUNE MEDIA SERVICES, INC.

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Solane Star
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posted July 16, 2004 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainbow,

I second that,BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!!

Solane Star

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26taurus
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posted July 16, 2004 01:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainbow,
I agree. And I believe every article youve posted so far. Bush is SCARY - to say the least.
I can't even look at him without getting a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.
He really creeps me out. There is something evil in his eyes - on his whole face for that matter. And when he opens his mouth!!! It makes me cringe!! uuggghh...

I loved the part in Far.911 when he said something like "Saddam tried to kill my daddy. You can't do that and think you can get away with it."....blah blah.. Ha! Ha!
God, he is such an idiot.

Luv ya Rainbow! Keep it up!

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Rainbow~
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posted July 16, 2004 02:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Dr. Frank has been a psychiatrist for 35 years and is director of psychiatry at George Washington University."

Hey jwhop....pretty good credentials for a quack!

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Rainbow~
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posted July 16, 2004 03:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Solane Star.....26taurus.....

Thanks! It's comforting to know there are others here who can see Bush for what he really is.....and it would be pitiful if he were not the "president" of the United States. Then it's an outrage!

Somehow we let this happen, and God save us all....WE CAN'T LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN!!!

Rainbow

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Isis
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posted July 16, 2004 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here we go, once again those with "love and light", "love in their hearts", "living peace every day" etc, are here spewing venom and loathing at our President. Regardless of what one thinks of another human being, that level of hatred and bile felt for and directed at another human being certainly can't be good for you - especially considering the idealism, sweetness, compassion and light that you claim to possess - how does one reconcile such a dichotomy withone oneself? Ahh, the inner torment must be hell...

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Isis
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posted July 16, 2004 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and it must feel really good to know that you and a fringe contingent are the only ones whose eyes the President hasn't been able to pull the wool over. The millions of people that disagree must be just poor, misguided stupid b@stards in your book. To be privy to such a thing, it kinda feels good, doesn't it? Like you're in on some secret no one else is. Or just vastly more perceptive and intelligent than the 50+ % of the nation who obviously don't get it.

It's good that you guys and the fringe leftists realize that the Supreme Court 'awarded him the Presidency' when the Democrats took the GOP to court over whether or not they could indefinitely recount votes until they themselves could steal the election - I suppose the SC took away Gore's supporters opportunity to 'steal' the election by counting votes until they can make enough 'materialize' through drudging up imagined disenfranchised voters who didn't get to vote three times, only twice.

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26taurus
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posted July 16, 2004 04:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No. We are not unique in our opinions on the President - by far! His popularity with Americans is at it's lowest ever right now. More people dislike him than like him. HELLO! That's got to tell you something!

I don't hate GWB either. I do dislike him. But I don't wish anything bad upon him. He is another human being like the rest of us. He does not bring positivity into this world. That doesnt mean I hate him. I don't think highly of him. It's pointless trying to explain this to you because we are on completely different pages.

uh - oh!...*close your eyes*...*block your ears*...

LOVE and LIGHT!
LOVE and LIGHT!
....PEACE & ......CUPCAKES ..& KITTENS...
........CLOUDS...and all fun stuff! *weeeee!*

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Isis
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posted July 16, 2004 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those who truly have love and light in their hearts are a wonder and a pleasure to know. I believe someone who posts here on the rare occassion, Meili Zwei or something to that effect, seems to embody love and light in most everything she posts. When it's bantered about falsely, by people of whom the majority of their words betray the bitterness and anger in their hearts, well it's just an hypocrisy, and that's what I can't stand.

It's not your words of love and light that sicken me, it's the obvious falseness behind them. But hey, if you all stroke each other enough, I'm sure you can all believe you're full of it.

I mean hey, I believe you're full of it. Pun intended.

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26taurus
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posted July 16, 2004 04:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly! Me too.
You took the words right out of my mouth sweetie pie.

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Isis
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posted July 16, 2004 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess that went right over your head.

Hey, if denial makes you feel better...

G'night

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26taurus
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posted July 16, 2004 04:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*whooosh* ...ummmm right over your head.

It's all perspective.

Sweet dreams.

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lioneye68
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posted July 16, 2004 04:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's all love and light except when we're talking about the people we hate. Right?

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I don't hate anyone. Not GWB, Osama, Hitler. These people brought much evilness and negativity into the world. And I don't agree with what they have done (and are doing) But I don't hate them. Hard to understand for alot of people, but I and alot of others feel this way. So don't try and accuse me of trying to portray myself as a saint or above anyone else or "false". Well okay, say and think what you will. But this is how I feel. Please don't get your ego's involved and start attacking me.

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posted July 16, 2004 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woo, hate is a strong word of choice??? Maybe you don't read the postings right again, no one even posted the words hate here. There your beautiful words of choice again Isis. People were just stating their opinions on how they feel and see things,not name calling and jumping the gun once again.

Hate is one thing and DISLIKING ONES WAY is totally another my friend.


Solane Star
Love and Light!!!
LOVE and Light!!!

Global Unity!!!
Global Unity!!!

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posted July 16, 2004 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


LET THE STROKINGS BEGIN!!!


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Rainbow~
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Here we go, once again those with "love and light", "love in their hearts", "living peace every day" etc, are here spewing venom and loathing at our President. Regardless of what one thinks of another human being, that level of hatred and bile felt for and directed at another human being certainly can't be good for you - especially considering the idealism, sweetness, compassion and light that you claim to possess - how does one reconcile such a dichotomy withone oneself? Ahh, the inner torment must be hell...

Not hell at all, Isis .......there is no inner torment!

You see, it is because we are idealists, with love for our fellow Americans, that we can no longer sit around and watch a "mad man" be in control....(too much damage has been done already}....he is leading us to hell...

...and please note that calling him a mad man is NOT saying that I HATE him! I don't hate him! In fact, I feel very sorry for him...he has my pity, because he is obviously a sick man.... and were he just the average Joe on the street his illness could not affect millions - in the horrible way that it is now.

Because he is NOT the average Joe on the street....my pity and concern is now extended to all of those who have been misled, and all of those innocents who died, because of his illness.

No, I don't hate George Bush. I do hate the fact that a sick man was allowed (even set up, maybe) to take over the awesome responbibity of leading a country...(his actions speak for themselves.}

...and it is because I am an idealist, who feels compassion, and love for my country, that we must not let George Bush be reelected. No! Not because I HATE him, but because he is NOT up to the job...

I do not hate him...I do not spew hate...

On the contrary...I am a person of love...love of my country...and a need to protect all of those in my country. And as a patriotic, American who feels a loyalty to my country and all it stands for (or USED to stand for, anyway), helping to expose Bush (so that he may not continue), shows indeed that I do love my country and fellow Americans...

There is all about LOVE here! NOT HATE!

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posted July 16, 2004 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I respectfully disagree - one does not need to actually state, "I hate you", to express hate and loathing. Taking every opportunity to disparage someone - is that a good thing? I suppose you would say it is if it's Bush - I would say that it's wrong regardless of who it is. But then again, I disparage 26T, which doesn't make me much better. The difference is that I don't profess to be full of love and light for all humanity. Therein lies the fundamental problem I have with the venom. Does not taking every opportunity to laugh at his shortcomings, or speak of him with scorn, derision, and loathing, speak of hate? I suppose we could argue the semantics of hate vs gross dislike. Either way, it's negativity in one's heart. So I stand firmly by my statement:
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Regardless of what one thinks of another human being, that level of hatred and bile felt for and directed at another human being certainly can't be good for you - especially considering the idealism, sweetness, compassion and light that you claim to possess - how does one reconcile such a dichotomy withone oneself?

Would Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Jesus, even the Dalai Lama, speak of Bush in the same way? My guess is: no.

I suppose when considering whether someone is full of love and light as they profess, I expect behavior something more akin to the abovementioned people, or even Meili Zwei, who I mentioned earlier. Certainly not, "ha ha ha he's stupid", and the other things I hear some of you say.
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