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jwhop
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posted August 04, 2004 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woman Fired For Eating 'Unclean' Meat
Attorney: 'It's A Classic Case Of Religious Discrimination'

POSTED: 5:46 am EDT August 4, 2004
UPDATED: 2:53 pm EDT August 4, 2004

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A Central Florida woman was fired from her job after eating "unclean" meat and violating a reported company policy that pork and pork products are not permissible on company premises, according to Local 6 News.

Lina Morales was hired as an administrative assistant at Rising Star -- a Central Florida telecommunications company with strong Muslim ties, Local 6 News reported.

However, 10 months after being hired by Rising Star, religious differences led to her termination.

Morales, who is Catholic, was warned about eating pizza with meat the Muslim faith considered "unclean," Local 6 News reported. She was then fired for eating a bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwich, according to the report.

"Are you telling me they fired you because you had something with ham on it?" Local 6 News reporter Mike Holfeld asked.

"Yes," Morales said...............
http://www.local6.com/money/3614199/detail.html

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lioneye68
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posted August 04, 2004 07:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pardon me, but isn't that against labor bylaws? You can't descriminate against someone based on age, sex, marital status, or religion. And you can't, as an employer force your religious beliefs on your employees.

At least, not in Canada.

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jwhop
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posted August 04, 2004 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes lioneye, this clearly voilates American Labor Law and notice, she filed suit against the company. Hope they break the company financially as a warning to others who might attempt to set up other religious laws and apply them to the workplace.

Now, do you know what's going on in Ontario, Canada? I heard on the radio that Muslim communities in Ontario are attempting to set up their religious laws and judge according to the Koran, issues of divorce, inheritance and other issues that would normally be under the jurisdiction of Canadian law.

I had a hard time finding anything on the internet but did find this.

It seems Muslim want to come into western societies and set up jurisdictions exempt from the laws of those countries...based on the Koran. They seem to be getting away with it in Canada.

When the Koran Speaks, Will Canadian Law Bend?

The New York Times has at last taken notice of the prospect of Sharia law coming to Canada, which we have been following here for many months. (Thanks to all who sent this in.) To their credit, they actually explore a bit of the downside.
A group called the Canadian Society of Muslims is testing those boundaries by establishing the Islamic Institute of Civil Justice to apply the legal code called Shariah, based on the Koran, to settle disputes over property, inheritance, marriage and divorce.
The prospect of Shariah's operating openly here has already stirred a powerful controversy centering on an uncomfortable issue for any liberal society with an expanding Muslim population that now numbers 600,000: Can a predominately Judeo-Christian society trust Islamic religious rules to protect the rights of all individuals?
The Muslim group is acting under an Ontario provincial law passed in 1991 that gave religious authorities the power to arbitrate civil matters as long as the people seeking arbitration do so voluntarily and are free to appeal those decisions in Canadian courts.
Under the law, Jews and Christians have settled a relatively narrow number of issues without going through the courts. Rabbis have granted religious divorces, decided on matters relating to kosher dietary laws and arbitrated business disputes. Catholic couples have gone to priests to annul marriages, while churches of various dominations have settled disputes related to inappropriate behavior of ministers and monetary disagreements within and between parishes.
But the Islamic Institute wants imams and other arbitrators to decide a broader range of issues. For Syed Mumtaz Ali, 77, an India-born Islamic lawyer and scholar who is the driving intellectual force behind the institute, a Muslim cannot be a Muslim without following Shariah.
"Basically, Muslims live a different kind of life from the Western life, which is secular," he noted in an interview. "Everything we do is governed by religious law." For Mr. Ali, it is perfectly acceptable that a son receive twice the inheritance of a daughter and that a man have the automatic right to divorce while a woman does not.
Muslim arbitrators have not made a single public decision yet, but Canada would presumably never allow the stoning of adulterous women or cutting off the hand of a thief, both allowable forms of punishment in some Muslim societies under an extreme variation of Shariah.
Critics say that Shariah contradicts the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, Canada's bill of rights, which guarantees the equality of men and women. Under Canadian family law, for instance, men and women have equal rights to inheritance and property acquired during a marriage.
Canadians voluntarily waive their legal rights all the time, but it is the obligation of the courts to ensure that they have independent legal advice before doing so. Critics of Shariah say Muslim women would be deprived of their rights because, even after emigrating, they frequently live in isolation from the broader society and are beholden to men who routinely tell them what to do and say.
"I don't see how it can be voluntary," said Shahira Hafez, 53, an Egyptian-born anesthesiologist and treasurer of the Toronto chapter of the Canadian Council of Muslim Women, "when all these women from Pakistan, India and Afghanistan are kept isolated in their own communities, do not learn English and only deal with the outer society through their husband and their husband's family."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/

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lioneye68
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posted August 04, 2004 09:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm. I am thanking my lucky stars daily for the fact that I am NOT a Muslem woman. (Thank You, lucky stars! I LOVE you!)

I dunno. I think the woman would still be able to excersize the rights inherent in the land she is in, even if her husband wishes her to be homeless and destitute. I would think that if their stupid religious beliefs make it ok to treat woman like cockroaches, then the law of the land, and fairness should prevail.

I friggen hate that aspect of the Muslem mentality. What's wrong with those people? Are they all psychos? Just because someone is born with an extra appendage, he's suppose to be some sort of god? Puh-leaze!! Not to sound like I'm man bashing, but that is just stupid!

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Isis
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posted August 05, 2004 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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jwhop
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posted August 05, 2004 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed lioneye, a nation with a population group within their borders which is not subject to the laws of that nation is headed for dissolution, sooner or later.

Similarly, a nation which is not in control of their borders is rapidly heading for the same kind of trouble as groups enter and set up their own cultural and ethnic enclaves, refusing to assimilate.

Islamic law, based on the Koran is all about power and the marriage relationship is one of slave to master.

Is Ontario, Canada really so liberal as to vote away the most basic duty of government, i.e., the duty to treat every citizen equally before the law?

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pidaua
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posted August 05, 2004 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am appalled that they could fire someone based on a violation of their said religion and NOT expect a major fall out!!

What kind of society are we living in when the mainstream is expected to provide a workplace based on religious tolerance only to have a small group of people break those laws because they feel it necessary?

I worked for a medium size corporation that employed several people from India, an Orthodox Jewish man, several Muslim ladies and various other religions. We never asked any of them to give up their way of life or throw their religion out the door. The Muslim women wore the either the traditional dress or the head covering at the very least. The Orthodox Jewish man had to leave early on Friday's as part of his doctrine and no one said a word.

I have to commend the former CEO, even though he was a putz and he hated anyone involved in a religion, he was at least smart enough NOT to screw with a persons religious right.

I hope that the lady puts that company out of business!

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ozonefiller
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posted August 06, 2004 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This why we even have to look out for the Religious Fanaticism even of the Christain faith, some of the people of it can also be just as bad and manipulative to they're either own ends or someone elses, making other Christain dominations look bad in the eyes of the people at large!


Kind of like being "Control Freaks"!

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