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LibraSparkle
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posted August 29, 2004 06:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure I will get flamed for this... but I really don't care


He's Done Even More Damage Than We Thought....


Just so you know:
I attacked and took over 2 countries.

I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the US Treasury.

I shattered the record for the biggest annual deficit in history (not
easy!).

I set an economic record for the most personal bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.

I set all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the stock
market.

I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on
vacation by any president in US history (tough to beat my dad's, but I did).
After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over
the worst security failure in US history.

I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any president in
US history.

In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs.

I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history.

I set the all-time record for most real estate foreclosures in a 12-month
period.

I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any
president in US history.

I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president, since
the advent of TV.

I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other US president in history.

I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to
intervene when corruption was revealed.

I cut health care benefits for war veterans.

I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take
to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.

I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.

I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history.

Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history.
(The poorest multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.)

I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union
simultaneously struggle against bankruptcy.

I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in
any country in the history of the world.

I am the first president in US history to order a US attack AND military
occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the
United Nations and the vast majority of the international community.

I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States, called the "Bureau of Homeland Security" (BHS, only one letter away from BS).

I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases,
more than any other president in US history (Ronnie was tough to beat, but I did it!!).

I am the first president in US history to compel the United Nations remove
the US from the Human Rights Commission.

I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove
the US from the Elections Monitoring Board.

I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of
congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history

I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant. I withdrew from the World
Court of Law.

I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.

I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election
inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.

I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.

The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).

I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US
history.

I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government.

I took the world's sympathy for the US after 9/11, and in less than a year
made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest
diplomatic failure in US and world history).

I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of
Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.

I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

I set the all-time record for the number of administration appointees who
violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations
bidding for government contracts.

I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any
other president in US! history.

I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than
two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES:

I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).

I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during time of war.

I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt
companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.

With Love,
GEORGE W. BUSH
The White House, Washington, DC


http://www.resultsmatter.info/facts.htm

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Randall
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posted August 29, 2004 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aside from the parts that were actually great things (especially UN and related) and the things over which the President had no control (economy), I'm curious how much is even true. BTW, don't we have many nations in Iraq with us? How could that be the minority? Oh, I suppose if you count all the small communist nations...but why should we care what they think? And why should we submit to the UN in any way (election or otherwise)?

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StarLover33
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posted August 29, 2004 10:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
9/11 was a huge blow to our economy, and the Democrats want to forget that, and put the blame solely on the administration. Why does this have to turn into something so vicious and partisan?

-StarLover

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LibraSparkle
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posted August 29, 2004 10:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a convenient excuse. Please. If it had been on Clinton's watch, you Republicans would be singing the same tune

The president does have an effect on these things. If he did not, why would the economy even come up in debates?

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StarLover33
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posted August 29, 2004 10:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No not really. IMHO, the Democrats (generally speaking) have been the loudest so far. Even a varying nuisance at times.

-StarLover

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LibraSparkle
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posted August 29, 2004 10:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course the Dems are the loudest right now No one but the Republicans are in favor of Bush. It is the Democrats that are in the position of having to fight back.

It wasn't the Democrats crying about piddly s**t durring the Clinton administration. That would have been the Republicans.

The Dems aren't complaining about who gave whom oral sex and where. They're complaining about serious issues... for the most part.

Personally... I don't care how much of what Bush stuck up his nose in his youth. Little things like that are petty.

... Like launching a smearing add campaign against a man who served his country in a war when YOU didn't have the gonads to do the same thing

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StarLover33
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posted August 29, 2004 10:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There has been vicious and cruel garbage written and said about George W. Bush by certain Democrats. Do I think ads against Kerry's viet-record are unfair? Not really, the Democrats have been mud-slinging Bush for a long time now, it's about time something like this came their way for once. I was happy when I saw Bush leading in the polls.

-StarLover

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Randall
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posted August 29, 2004 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Presidents take the credit or blame for the economy, when, in fact, they often have little to do with it (except for tax plans if they are lucky to get them approved). The economy is cyclical in most respects. Personally, I think the economy is just fine.

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jwhop
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posted August 30, 2004 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LS, you should be and fully deserve to be flamed for posting some of the most outrageous lies of the far left radicals.

Most anyone who doesn't have their head totally up their own rear or John Kerry's would know most of what you posted is absolute nonsense.

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QueenofSheeba
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posted September 01, 2004 01:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Au contraire. It's all perfectly true.

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Isis
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posted September 01, 2004 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just saying it's true doesn't make it so.

Ahhh, but how cool life would be if it were that easy, alas...

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Harpyr
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posted September 01, 2004 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well just calling it a lie doesn't necessarily make it so either..

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Isis
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posted September 01, 2004 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, but you see, I didn't call it a lie I merely pointed out that QOS insisting, "it's all perfectly true" doesn't make it so.

Instead of just saying, "it's true", how 'bout some factual evidence to back up the claim? Some might be surprised how effective factual evidence can be in changing a persons mind...


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jwhop
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posted September 01, 2004 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh gee, can I play too?

With so many tall tales about the President circulating through loony left circles in America, it's only fair that I introduce the idea that John Heinz Kerry is a dedicated communist in the world wide communist movement.

Now, to all the leftists who repeat and magnify the outright lies told about the President, I would say to you that I can make a very convincing case that John Kerry is a communist, allied to foreign powers. Such a strong case in fact that if Kerry were ever indicted for being an agent of foreign powers, hostile to the United States, I could build a case from the very record of Kerry's actions and all of it on the record with not one lie necessary to convict Kerry in a court of law. In a court of law, facts matter, opinion doesn't matter and feelings don't matter. Just the facts.

Of course, I realize that for some, that would be just another reason to vote for Kerry and perhaps the primary reason.

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quiksilver
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posted September 01, 2004 11:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra Sparkle,

I must say that I lean to the right moreso than the left, to be upfront. (You may already have gleaned that from earlier postings of mine if you happened to read them)... At any rate, I do agree with some others who have commented here, in terms of supporting evidence to back up some of these more blanket statements. As Randall indicated (and I can say this with a fair amount of confidence, having some years of personal investment experience, analyzing the stock market and and a BA in Economics and Finance, the president has very little to do with actually producing any significant fluctuation, economically speaking. (Though it's a great "catch phrase" to appeal to the popular vote: ie- "It's the economy, stupid!") With respect to taxes, as Randall pointed out, there is greater influence but in the grand scheme of things, this is relatively minute. In terms of other issues, such as vacation days --- I would argue that any president is hardly ever "off duty" as it were. If being a doctor means being on call 24/7 for you patients, I would argue that being the president means being on call for your country 24/7. In this sense, I don't feel that any president is truly ever "on vacation". Also, it is not always the case that the president is "vacationing" just because this info. has been leaked to the press. I have an older friend who used to work for Regan in the C.I.A., and you'd be surprised how many "stories" are leaked to the press, to cover for the real whereabouts and going-on in the White House. Interesting stuff but I won't get into all that here. While we are on the topic of absenteeism, John Kerry (and this is documented) skipped 28 of 39 Sentate Intelligence Committee hearings and has been a proponent of cutting military intelligence and spending. Not exactly the best move, given the current global climate. However, if you are of the opinion that domestic issues are of greater concern, then maybe this is what you like to hear. I personally feel that we cannot afford as a nation to disregard the fact that there is a global battle going on in our midst and that we cannot afford to take any kind of a back seat where foreign policy is concerned. Also, I wouldn't necessarily be too quick to attack the president because he may have isolated some of our would-be allies in an attempt to stand firm in his convictions. While we may not share his convictions, it is somewhat reassuring to know that we have someone in authority who does not back down in the face of disapproval. If he were to have done just this, we might instead have found ourselves thinking "typical politician: catering to the mass appeal". Sometimes it is necessary to go against the tide, so to speak. As for the "fewest press conferences", sometimes less is more, you know? I think that it was personally a smart move for Bush, since we all know that public speaking is not his strong suit....
In terms of the "most secret and unaccountable presidency in history"..... I don't know about that. It's a pretty grand statement to make, I think. What about Nixon? What about earlier presidents? It is difficult to support such qualitative statements, as mass media and perception were not in the past what they are today. There is also nothing wrong with boasting "rich cabinet members" as long as these members are honest and upstanding citizens. I think it is unfair to throw money into the equation. A man or woman with money who has earned it on his or her own merit deserves to reap the benefits of his or her efforts. I am not suggesting that ALL of the current cabinet members are above reproach in this regard, for this is something I have no way of proving. I am merely suggesting that the ownership of money, in and of itself is a neutral matter. As far as corporate campaign donations, again I do not see how this reflects on the performance of any particular president. Ditto for polls and focus group spending. And as far establishing a "secret shadow" government. This is a vague remark. I would be interested to learn more about why you think this is the case. As far as Europe's approval of the US, I would say they disapprove because they are being infiltrated as we speak, by the Muslim population. By the end of this century, I would hazard a guess and say that the vast majority of the European population will be Muslim. The face of the world is changing in this regard. I believe (though I don't have a vast amount of evidence to back up this statement) that by and large, Europeans are afraid. In recognizing the changing face of the globe, they realize that they are already outnumbered by the Muslim population and are probably very anxious to not create any waves in this regard, being that they do not enjoy the separation that the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean provides to the US. They know that they may be very well subject to attack should their collective policies aim to in any way go against that of the Arab regimes. It is my guess that many countries in Europe will by the end of this century be overtaken by the Muslims and essentially overrun. I could be entirely mistaken in this estimation but I would not be surprised....
Lastly, I think it quite unfair to blame the president for the attacks to the world Trade Center. If anything, the Clinton administration set the stage for this atrocious blunder. Mind you, I am not blaming the Clintons for this calamity, merely pointing out that matters of national security were of not much concern to them during their time, comparatively speaking. Clinton cut defense spending by 95% when he was in office. It is known in military (and other) circles that the Clintons had a sort of disdain towards military personnel and did not even so much as permit them to dress in uniform while in the White House or on the premises of the White House. Having military exp., I will say that the uniform, while only an outward trapping, has much meaning and value to those who have served in our armed forces. Military personnel take great pride in their appearance and the wearing of the uniform is a symbol of pride in one's country and one's duty. To be stripped of this dignity is an offense which many did not take lightly. But I digress....

It is difficult to take issue with each and every one of these statements, as many are not complete with supporting evidence. A few, such as "I appointed more convicted criminals to administrative positions that any president in US history", I am hard pressed to argue because I do not have the facts. But I would be interested to know where you found this information and will do my own research in the meantime. Also, what type of convictions are we speaking of here? Marijuana related offenses? Public intoxication? I bring this up because obviously some offenses are much more grievous than others and warrant greater concern. It is easy to make blanket statements without analyzing some of the more subtle nuances......

On a much lighter note ---- on a popular sex toy website, Bush garnered the most votes (45.3%) for "Candidate you'd most like to sleep with". He can't be all that bad, right??? Then again (to put the Libra twist on things) maybe it was one of those S&M sites!!!!!

Anyhow, I'm beat for today. Again, Libra - when you get a chance, I'd like to know where you retrieved some of the info. below....
Thanks!!!

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QueenofSheeba
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posted September 02, 2004 12:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isis, you ask us to prove to you things that have been talked about in the news and the media for as long as Bush has been in office. If you aren't already aware of them, you must have your head in the sand. I should point out, however, that the list LibraSparkle posted does have source (did you not see it?). That website is our source. That list is our proof.

We have offered proof, and you have refused it because you don't want to believe it. I could quote statistics at you, but you would not believe them if you didn't want to (esp. if they were contrary to your position). LibraSparkle has already given you about fifty facts. If you dislike them, prove otherwise.

And jwhop, you're embarrassing yourself. Do carry on if you wish.

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted September 02, 2004 12:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*sigh* Why is it that most Republicans only hear what they want to hear?

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Aquarian Girl
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posted September 02, 2004 12:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many of those items listed are very subjective and/or outright distortions regarding things the president has very little control over.

I set all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the stock
market.

This was because of 9/11, something Bush had no control over.

I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history.

As evidenced by what?

Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history.
(The poorest multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.)

Are you people kidding? I have two words for you - Kerry HEINZ!

I don't have time to go through the list, line by line.

*sigh* Why is it that most Democrats only hear what they wanna hear?

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quiksilver
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posted September 02, 2004 06:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone is a bit guilty of hearing what they want to hear at times. The only shame is to not be aware of this shortcoming. I think that most of us here are, and try to do our best to understand where someone from an opposing viewpoint is coming from. Also, I would like to comment that the news and media, while more liberal and informative than most in the world, are not to be taken as the "word of God", so to speak. Much misinformation is deliberately leaked through the media for political purposes and it largely serves as a "tool" of sorts for mass manipulation. Hearing something on the news does not necessarily make it the absolute truth. We all know this but just a *reminder*, since it is sometimes easy to get carried away....

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