posted September 09, 2004 10:57 AM
This is a little long, but very interesting, so here's some more astrolological predicting, from a newsletter I receive:
BUSH/CHENEY, KERRY/EDWARDS, AND THE 2004 ELECTION
For someone who made some somewhat gutsy predictions about both the
Iowa Caucus and New Hampshire Primary, it might seem strange that
I’ve been entirely quiet about the most important election that any
of us can remember. Well … um … ya see … it’s like … uh … sometimes
… um … I … uh … well …
I don’t know.
Yes, it’s taken me over ten years of experience as a practicing
astrologer to come to that conclusion. Yes, that’s why I get paid
the big bucks. Well, in my defense, I have made at least five major
predictions on this newsletter so far, and they have all been
accurate (Iowa, New Hampshire, pre-Iraq invasion, and two
SuperBowls). 5-0 is pretty good, although I still dread the
inevitable day that I fall flat on my face. Oh well, knock on wood,
because that day might be today.
I was speaking with another astrologer recently, a Vedic astrologer,
and he and I were both talking about how hard it is to get a solid
read on this election. I think that’s because the astrological
factors are not straight-forward this time around. In other words,
there is a lot of complexity involved, as I’ll explain further
below. I do think this is an unusually difficult election to predict
with astrology, because some factors have to be seen for more than
their most obvious, surface level interpretation. Of course many
astrologers will come out with definite, bold predictions. And about
half of them will be right. I guess I won’t be joining them in their
boldness. But before I am done here, I will offer something fairly
substantial.
My main problem is that I feel the Western system would probably
seem to favor Kerry/Edwards, while I feel the Vedic system quite
clearly favors Bush/Cheney. Now you can see my predicament. There is
no doubt in my mind that both of these astrological systems are very
powerful and important, so I can’t make an unequivocal call with
contradictory input like this. However, Vedic astrology (and by
that, I mainly mean the Vedic dasa's) is often more helpful when
looking at such physically manifest realities and outcomes. As much
as it pains me to say it, Bush always seems tough to count out,
astrologically speaking.
So maybe I’ll still squeeze out some kind of a prediction here after
all. Before I see if I can do that, let’s look back on what’s
already happened, because in all honesty, it has been a lot like I
thought it would be so far …
JUNE 2004: With Saturn moving direct and over George W. Bush’s Sun
(and the tropical Sun of the United States), there is a tremendous
amount of publicity given to Michael Moore’s movie attacking the
Bush Administration, “Fahrenheit 9/11.” We haven’t seen a US
President attacked this fiercely since “When Bill met Monica” came
out on pay-per-view.
Many, many astrologers were predicting “bodily harm” or even death
for George W. around this time, due in part to this Saturn transit.
I am proud to say that I was not one of them, as I find that kind of
thing a rather creepy way to use astrology, particularly with a
public audience. Personally, I would have been embarrassed to even
be right about such a prediction, not to mention being wrong about
it.
However, instead of George Bush, it was Ronald Reagan who passed
away in that month, turning what many astrologers thought would be a
direct hit to the Republican leadership into a patriotic,
pro-Republican moment. It’s somewhat amazing to see the way George
W. can survive some of his “worst” transits. I think George’s knees
were hurting him back in June--not exactly earth-shattering on the
“bodily harm” level. Okay, I’m glad that’s done. Let’s move on to
less grim topics.
JULY 2004: “Fahrenheit 9/11,” released the last weekend of June,
becomes the most successful documentary in history, and John Kerry
announces the likeable John Edwards as his running mate on July 6th.
Bush continues to dip and Kerry continues to rise in public opinion
polls, which is not shocking to any amateur astrologer due to the
recent fallout and proximity of Saturn’s transit to Bush’s Sun.
The Democratic National Convention then occurs in late July, and
although it gets a lot of great press, John Kerry does not get the
“bounce” in the polls that most expected. But he remains ahead in
many polls, and the electoral college scenario is looking up for
Kerry.
AUGUST 2004: At this point, I know there are at least two upcoming
events that, at least temporarily, favor Bush over Kerry.
1. The South Node of the Moon begins to creep closely towards John
Kerry’s natal Venus in Scorpio (in August, and maybe September).
This is THE transit that, as a Kerry supporter, has me really
worried. What sort of dreary, unfortunate loss will Kerry experience
at this time? Is there some skeleton in his closet, relating to some
former partner or his wife that will come out? Luckily it turns out
that I am wrong about that particular fear. But what I did not
foresee is the “Swift Boat Veterans for Truth” surfacing from their
murky depths. Just as Bush’s campaign found a way to discount John
McCain’s Vietnam POW experience in 2000, a Bush campaign volunteer
is found to belong to the Swift Boat attack group that begins an
advertising blitz to confuse and deceive America about John Kerry’s
military service. It’s dirty politics at its lowest, as evidenced
when even Republican John McCain denounces the attack group’s ads
and tactics. No, it’s not the women of Kerry’s life that this tough
transit to his Venus-in-Scorpio portends, but his past history of
confronting issues of war and peace that gets him into trouble.
Before August or September even begins, I was wondering if Kerry
would be able to survive the transit of the South Node over his
Venus. Luckily, although the answer is that he did for some reason
take a hit in the polls, he isn’t down for the count. We might still
have a good, interesting race.
2. On August 27th, Jupiter enters the sidereal (the mainly Eastern)
zodiac sign of Virgo. Per se, this is very good news for Bush and
bad news for Kerry, and this news will continue through the
election. With Bush’s natal Moon and Jupiter also in this sidereal
sign of Virgo (in the tropical, mainly Western zodiac he has them in
Libra), and with the Moon and Jupiter ruling his 1st and 9th houses,
this is almost certainly good news for Bush. And for Kerry, Jupiter
would be leaving the 10th House of his Vedic chart, and the
prominence and success that that transit brought him. Just two days
later, on August 29th, the Republican National Convention begins and
by the time it is over, Bush is seen ahead by as much as 11 points
in some nationwide polls. Bush can thank his lucky Jupiter. And
Kerry can ask where his Jupiter has gone.
SEPTEMBER 2004: Here we are in the present, as I am writing this on
September 7th. Although the True South Node has literally passed
Kerry’s natal Venus, the Mean South Node has yet to make its final
pass. So his dreary transit may not be over yet. The good news for
Kerry fans is that by the time October rolls around, that particular
transit might be over for him. I think he will probably bounce back
somewhat. The trillion dollar question is, will he bounce back
enough? Even when looking at the South Node transit, that answer
isn’t 100% clear, because it is still close enough to potentially
cause Kerry more trouble.
That question will largely be answered by the final major transit of
this political season: George W. Bush’s second Saturn Return. Just
to show you how much fun astrology can be, I’ll quote two different
astrologers on this topic:
First, a very good man and astrologer by the name of Robert Blaschke
(www.earthwalkastrology.com), from his Newsletter on August 6th:
“… President Bush will undergo a stationary second Saturn return,
within a one degree orb from September 23rd until December 24th.
This three month window will be the hardest for Mr. Bush
psychologically and spiritually, as the pressure within his own soul
and conscience will build to a sharp point of personal reckoning.”
Earlier in his article, Blaschke writes: “By November 2nd, Pluto
returns to 20 Sagittarius 35, in a partile conjunction with his
South Node, and he will lose his re-election bid.”
Next, from Vedic Astrologer Joni Patry (www.galacticcenter.org )
who, by the way, has some excellent material on the nakshatras on
her website:
”Election Day is November 2nd and I can see clearly who will be
elected President. It is based solely on the charts and not my
political opinion. Transiting Pluto is directly on John Kerry’s Sun
and the Sun rules his 10th house of public standing and career. As
you know Pluto is the mythological god of death, so this puts an end
to his career pursuits. Transiting Saturn in the sign of Cancer is
now in President Bush’s 1st house conjoined his natal Saturn. This
is called a Saturn Return. This means that he will have more
responsibilities and hard work, hardly the aspect of someone
terminating a job.”
There you have it. Specifically because of Saturn and Pluto’s
locations on November 2nd, one astrologer says Bush will definitely
win, and the other says that Bush will definitely lose. No wonder so
many people say astrology is hard to learn!
Well here’s what I think on the subject of Bush’s Saturn Return.
A Saturn Return, to me, is not necessarily going to hurt or help a
candidate in a political race, though in most cases I don’t think it
is helpful. But in some particular cases, it would help. And in some
cases, it would hurt (just ask Wes Clark earlier this year). Some
people have wonderful Saturn Returns, and some have tremendously
tough ones; usually I think you can tell this from certain factors
of the natal chart. I don’t see how Bush’s Saturn Return will
particularly help him *overall,* though I do say that with a
reservation or two, as I do think that, in an odd way, it could help
him win re-election.
We know for sure that Saturn going over Bush’s Sun, this last summer
and the previous fall, did not do Bush any favors, although it also
didn’t knock him out of office. So we’ve seen Saturn act as a
fairly—though not utterly—negative influence on Bush. But again, he
did somehow survive it all, and I think that deserves emphasizing.
It’s really hard for me to imagine Bush’s Saturn Return doing him a
lot of good, but then Bush is like a cockroach that can survive a
“nucular” holocaust when it comes to his astrological transits.
Saturn is not very helpful for Bush *overall* in his Western chart,
in my opinion. And in his Vedic chart, Bush’s Saturn seems to give
him “mixed” results, at best. The best thing his Vedic Saturn has
going for it, in my opinion, is its placement in the very auspicious
nakshatra of Pushyam, which Saturn also rules over, and its
conjunctions in the 1st house with friendly Mercury in its own
nakshatra of Ashlesha, and friendly Venus as well. As a Kerry fan,
I’m very, very concerned about Bush’s Saturn in Pushyam having a
positive transit from Saturn in Pushyam, at least in terms of
winning the election. The aftermath would probably be another story.
Other than that factor (and the astakavarga), if Bush wins under his
own Saturn return, I will scratch my head and wonder how he did it.
Then again, he’s left me scratching my head more than a few times
already, wondering how he he’s pulled off the things that he has,
both astrologically and politically. If he can survive Saturn
stationing on his Sun, he can probably survive the Saturn return as
well. Yes, like Joni Patry said, a Saturn Return can bring greater
responsibilities, and I this case I tend to think it probably will.
But for a guy with Saturn in his 12th House (Western chart, not
Vedic chart), a Saturn return could also bring a whole lot of
powerlessness and isolation. Even in his Vedic chart, Saturn rules
his 8th house, and has the capacity to cause him major difficulties
from major scandal and unfortunate tragedies (like Iraq, etc. etc.)
One significant possibility, and if I were forced to put money down
it would probably be here, is that Bush wins the election, but then
his victory turns out to be a rather unfortunate turn of events for
him. Maybe he wins the battle and then loses the war, irony
intended. With social, economic, and international problems mounting
for him, perhaps winning the election would turn out to be the worst
thing that’s ever happened to him. Maybe the Saturn return doesn’t
cause him to lose the election, but rather to suffer the
consequences of his policies and actions. Maybe he will be the man
who has to stand in and take his lumps and be responsible for the
terrible messes he has created. Maybe Saturn doesn’t want to let him
off too easily. Uh oh. Now Bush is going to start running attack ads
calling me a pessimist.
Now to the subject of Pluto. To me, Pluto will be in a position that
is not clearly helpful to either candidate. For Kerry, Pluto will be
conjunct his Sun-Saturn midpoint, and Kerry has the Sun and Saturn
opposed to one another (not a really helpful natal aspect for him).
For Bush, Pluto will be precisely conjunct his True South Node.
Neither of these transits are entirely “good” on paper for an
election candidate. So I can’t base any definite election
predictions on the transit of Pluto. However, Kerry did win the
Democratic nomination under this same transit earlier this year, and
Bush got himself into the quagmire of Iraq when Pluto reached his
South Node. So so far, the transit has been much more helpful to
Kerry, but that really doesn’t mean it will necessarily continue to
be that way. We won’t know that for sure until November 2nd and
beyond.
What Pluto’s placement may definitely be showing us, then, is that
whoever is elected will soon be faced with the bitter intensity of
Pluto’s fire. Again, whoever wins this election might just turn out
to be the real loser in the deal. He will certainly inherit a
Texas-sized mess.
One of the factors that looks the most favorable for Bush is that
Bush’s natal South Node conjoins Kerry’s Sun. That means per se that
Bush will tend to eclipse Kerry’s light, and deny him status and
recognition. You can do that math on that one. I suppose there is
still some hope, and some possibility, that this will only symbolize
Bush’s attacking of Kerry and making him look bad along the way of
the campaign trail. But that would be an extremely optimistic
interpretation if you are a Kerry fan. Nine times out of ten, this
aspect means that Bush will beat Kerry.
However I’m not completely convinced that this won’t be that rare
one time out of ten. And yes, I say that as a bleeding-heart liberal
who is not completely objective on this matter. But I have seen
exceptions to rules in astrology that are normally true nine times
out of ten. Those exceptions do happen. But in this case, I’m
probably just in denial.
Now after Bush’s Saturn return, there is one very key and
significant transit going on that I see as an interesting mystery
(for just another two months). That is, on election day, Kerry will
have the transiting Jupiter (with Venus!) trining his natal Uranus
and Mars, while his running mate John Edwards will have the
transiting Jupiter-Venus trining his natal Jupiter-Moon, and the
transiting Jupiter-Venus conjunction will be on Kerry’s Midheaven.
Wow! Sounds absolutely phenomenal and wonderful, right?! There’s no
doubt that these are extremely powerful and extremely tight,
textbook-benevolent transits. Exact trines from Jupiter and Venus!
What could be better, right? Yeah, yeah, but here’s why I’m still
very cautious about them. Cut and paste this link into your browser
if you can’t just click on it:
http://astrologyforthesoul.c.topica.com/maacDihaa9QNxbn3f2fbaeQA7v/
This is a blog entry I made last February about the
Jupiter-trine-Jupiter transit as the kiss of death in competitive
events. Now technically, John Kerry does not have that exact transit
going on, though John Edwards does. I think Kerry’s transit does
look extremely favorable for him. If there is one Jupiter trine that
will keep you from getting too lazy, it’s probably
Jupiter-trine-Mars, and that’s what he’s got; that certainly *could*
propel him to victory, and I must put the emphasis on “could.” The
thing to ask is in which way will Kerry be “favored?” By winning or
by losing? Would inheriting this Iraq War, this economy, and this
budget deficit be a really "good" thing for Kerry, personally?
Although Edwards does have the “kiss of death” transit going on,
it’s not a pure case. In his case, his natal Jupiter is conjunct his
Moon, which bodes extremely well for his connection with “the
public,” even more so because his Moon is exalted in the sidereal
zodiac. But this may not be as straight-forward as it might first
seem.
Here’s what I am concerned about, as an unashamed Kerry man. It may
be that all of these sweet, yummy Jupiter trines turn Kerry and
Edwards into left-wing heroes on election night … despite losing the
election. Maybe Jupiter helps these guys get off easy, go on
vacation, and retreat from the political grind for a while, while
being remembered as the guys who gave the GOP a good run for their
money. Maybe even as the guys that got robbed by questionable
computer voting machines designed by pro-Republican companies, or by
Jeb’s state of Florida, or by Ralph Nader, or by some other strange
denial of justice.
Then again, maybe those Jupiter trines just mean that Kerry and
Edwards take the grand prize. It’s certainly possible. Gore
certainly didn’t have anything this nice in 2000. It’s textbook, in
a certain way. And that’s the prediction that I at least *want* to
say. It’s just very hard for me to feel correct in saying it.
I will somewhat boldly say this. Bush’s Saturn return will either
cost him re-election (less likely), or it will cost him much more
(more likely). If you are not a Bush fan, you might take solace in
the fact that no matter what happens, he is (and Cheney is) in some
deep doo doo, and their feet will be put to the fire one way or
another. Cheney will have transiting Saturn on his Chiron and
transiting Chiron on his Venus for the election. Normally that would
show to me someone that would lose the big event. But in this case I
will say that he too will either lose the election or face some very
serious fallout from it in upcoming years. Whatever happens for
Bush/Cheney, I think it won't be good for them personally, in the
long-run, if not the short-term.
Well, I personally hope I’m dead wrong about all of this, but I
guess the end result is in very good and capable (Divine) hands, and
perhaps we should all be prepared to trust in that higher plan.
If my life depended on it, I’d put my money on Bush to win the
election, and then face some bitter consequences. Luckily my life
doesn’t depend on the prediction, and I’ll just officially say “I
don’t know.” After the election is over, the media will turn its
full glare onto the state of our country and analyze Bush’s
“leadership.” He'll be experiencing Saturn in full force.
Whether it’s on November 2nd, or soon after, Saturn will have his
way with George W. Bush. He’s coming to check up on you, George. And
he’ll want to know if you have been naughty or nice.
If you are a Kerry supporter, take heart in the fact that there are
at least some aspects that at least could be extremely favorable for
the Dems. I hope you’ll continue to stay involved in the political
process, as I am, volunteering time and money to stand up for what
you believe is right. When we do that, only good things can happen.
We have to be involved in order to manifest a difference. We just
might want to be prepared for the possibility that progress might
look at first like regress.
Then again, I might really be wrong. Maybe I’m overanalyzing. Maybe
that Saturn return and Saturn/Chiron will sink Bush/Cheney and the
Jupiter-Venus trines will propel Kerry/Edwards to victory. That's
entirely plausible, in my opinion. Maybe I’m overlooking the
obvious. I really hope so. Eventually I’ll have to be wrong about
one of these predictions anyway, and there’s nothing I’d rather be
more wrong about than this. The bottom line is that despite all that
I've said, and despite making my best guess, I really, really don't
know the outcome here. I do still think it is very complex,
confusing, and tough to predict. Whether astrologers like Robert or
Joni are right in their predictions, I think they both have very
good and compelling reasons for what they have said. I can tell you
that I will certainly learn a lot from whatever happens. Let's pray
that, no matter what the outcome, the world will be a much better
place. I certainly believe that we are all in very good, heavenly
hands.
Lindaland
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I believe the Gemini Rising is correct. Why, well think of all the Gemini presidents we've had.
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