posted November 03, 2004 01:31 PM            

The adults are still in charge and it's 4 more years for Bush.

Let the whining begin.

In spite of all the favorable press for Kerry.

In spite of the press suppressing the real John Kerry record in the 1970's.

In spite of the press suppressing and overlooking Kerry's voting record in Congress.

In spite of the press giving Kerry press coverage that would amount to more than 2 billion dollars of in kind contributions.

In spite of a concerted effort by every media outlet to spread foul lies about the exit poll results to suppress the Bush vote.

In spite of a general declaration of war by the press and radical liberals on Bush going back to November 2000.

In spite of all the lies, all the vote fraud, all the voter registration fraud.

In spite of stacking the deck in every conceivable way against the President.

The Democrat obstructionists lost and lost big.

The whining crybaby left lost and lost big.

The whining crybaby press lost and lost big.

The I hate America crowd lost and lost big.

The adults won and are still in charge in America.

posted November 03, 2004 02:51 PM            

Bush won a bigger victory than Clinton did in either of his Presidential elections. Clinton never won 50% of the vote.

I have listened to a constant drumbeat of negativity coming off the left for 4 years.

You lost, that's pure and simple fact.

In the process, the press has come close to destroying itself, has lost any shred of credibility it still had and in the process the Democrat party is self-destructing in front of your eyes, having moved to the radical left fringe of political thought in America.

There will be a new Congress and that Congress is even more Republican as voters threw out some of the most radical leftists and obstructionists in the Democrat party.

posted November 03, 2004 02:56 PM              

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? I think this reminded me of why I don't come to this forum.

posted November 03, 2004 03:50 PM            

The dog in the manger radical left is still whining, still attacking the President and still attempting to wage war against the President in the face of a clear and convincing victory at the polls.

I'm not interested in teaching anyone anything. So, the radical left can stick with their hateful leftist heroes John Kerry, Ed Kennedy, Tom Daschle, Algore, Michael Moore, George Soros, Al Frankan, MoveOn.org and all the other apostles of the hateful radical left.

There isn't a better way to guarantee conservative victory after conservative victory.

posted November 03, 2004 10:28 PM            

quicksilver and miss_apples
I quite agree.

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I find it rather ironic that people who get upset over the name-calling and hateful behavior on the part of those they disagree with resort to those same exact tactics to retaliate. It's counter-productive and beyond childish. Perhaps you need to be put in a playpen with each other until you learn to get along and actually respect each other.

posted November 03, 2004 11:31 PM              

I'm sorry I know I was leaving but at least I am being peaceful

I guess my point is if you don't want people to listen to you and if you do want to alienate people then by all means call them names, use as many personal insults as possible, use scare tactics, be sarcastic and mudsling to your heart's content!

If you want to truly make a difference, really want to be heard and understood in a way that doesn't sprout contempt, want to unite people (Global UNITY) then try different tatics.

I understand maybe some people don't care if other people are alienated, feel hurt or confusion, or are turned off by views that are presented in a way that is unnecessary. But if that is the case then why bother talking at all except to hear the sound of your own voice and to intimidate people?

posted November 04, 2004 12:10 AM            

Free speech indeed but that cuts both ways.

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I can't believe this...Bush is winning...I just cannot believe this. This is so much of a farce, it's not even funny anymore

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and FLORIDA of all the states gave him their votes!!!

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I can't imagine what the rest of the world must think about the USA now.

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Ick, makes me sad to be called a Floridian. But atleast my county (Broward) voted overwhelmingly Kerry. Gah, I can't believe it. Four more years of this? Well, man, he's not my president, and I'm not ever going to call him 'President' Bush again.

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ugh ... I feel sick.. please dear Goddess save us from four more years of pResident bush!

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All I have to say is that if Bush wins this election and has his new "arms race" for America and we end up getting another terrorist attack on this country(and you know that it will be another liberal state,like NY), I'm packing and I'm outta here!
Let the Republicans have this country and fight they're own damn nuclear war for they're "New Confederacy"!I'll be damned to be a living target for the betterment of the lives of the likes of the "out of control" , Bush Twins!I'll be damned to live in a "once was" free nation that I can't have a voice in!I hope Canada and Europe are ready for a major serge in they're countries, it will be people like us that will try to help them into NOT being so reliable to the United States and help them make they're own dicisions away from "superpowers"!

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Today is a sad day...
When the force wins the wisdom, what does remains to us...
Prayer?
I don't know, I feel very disappointed...not with the Americans, but with the future...[]

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posted November 04, 2004 12:53 AM              

jwhop ~ nearly all of those quotes were showing dispeasure with who was elected President. How could you see that as some sort of personal attack? Unless you live in Florida... if you do then you might want to speak up and defend it. I've heard things like "All green party people are *insert various negative nonsense*". I could jump on those people and insult their intelligence but what would that do except give them some sort of personal validation? It's like in elementary school:

person: I don't like you! You suck!
me: well then I'm going to kick your ass!
person: See! you are a jerk!

Okay so they still don't like you. What was accomplished? I think it works better this way:

person: I don't like you! You suck!
me: Well sorry you feel that way. If you can tell me why maybe we can fix it but if not then not really my problem.
person: **baffle**

I've had to defend myself so many times over the past month but I knew if I resorted to the same tactics as some others that I would lose credibility.

I don't have anything against anyone here. I'm just seeing total shut downs in communication because of viciousness and I wish that weren't the case. Lines should be open, imo, more so now than ever.

posted November 04, 2004 02:01 AM              

Many countries which once revered, trusted and respected the USA now loathe the USA, and even moreso must collectively have fear and loathing for the USA after this election, and "our choice" of leadership... I don't blame them.

posted November 04, 2004 10:24 AM            

I like liberals, in general but I don't like their childish behavior. Nor do I like their churlish lack of grace in the face of a defeat of their ideas at the polls.

When liberals stick to a discussion of the President's ideas and policy decisions, we can have a polite discussion.

When liberals attack the President's character, integrity and personal characteristics, we can have a discussion about liberals own character, integrity and personal characteristics.

Why should liberals complain when they've already endorsed the principle of personal attacks on the character, integrity and personal characteristics of another? And yet, it's the liberals who squeal and cry foul when their own tactics are turned on them.

Apparently the "Golden Rule" is never taught in liberal households or if it was, it didn't find any fertile ground there.

posted November 04, 2004 11:46 AM              

Anyway, I just wanted to say this about the results of the election: Why am I not suprised?

To be quite honest, I think the entrenched power structure in this country has grown strong enough to do whatever it wants now. Bush had the connections to strongarm the last election, and I had no doubts that he'd win this one, too.

posted November 04, 2004 12:17 PM            

Trust me when I tell you, they know whom is whom.

I completely agree, we all need each other. To think and act otherwise invites stagnation of political thought and if America is anything, it's a nation of ideas.

Speaking of strange ideas

posted November 04, 2004 12:31 PM            

Not even kiddie athletes behave like this when they lose. Good sportsmanship is taught and expected.

Thursday, Nov. 4, 2004 9:55 a.m. EST
Kerry Daughters React to Defeat with 'F-word' Tirade

While John Kerry is winning high marks for delivering a classy and composed concession speech yesterday at Boston's Faneuil Hall, his daughters Alexandra and Vanessa weren't quite as gracious.

Reports the New York Post:

"Following the speech, the frustration of Kerry's daughters, who teared up during the concession after tirelessly stumping for their father, exploded backstage in a diatribe of F-words."
The ugly scene apparently took place out of range of media cameras, since video of the Kerry girls' tantrum has yet to materialize.

In September, when first daughter Jenna Bush was captured on film sticking her tongue out at reporters, the press turned the incident into a major news story.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/11/4/95659.shtml

posted November 04, 2004 12:42 PM              

Something that you don't seem to understand, JW, is what a Liberal is. These people rioting in the streets, they're not Liberals. They'd like to be Liberals, but they do not live by what Liberals believe.

A true Liberal person would not behave the way many of these people are behaving. They are from the left, granted, but the are not Liberal.

Contrary to popular belief (and propaganda) Liberal is not a bad word. Without Liberals, social services would be nearly nonexistent. Liberals are in favor of change rather than keeping things the same. A true Liberal is broad-minded and tolerant. A true Liberal is benevolent and visualizes altruism.

You cannot believe in an altruistic dream and behave violently at the same time.

These people are not Liberal.

As far as the daughters go... Who gives a F what they said away from the media cameras. They can use as many F words as they like, doesn't make 'em bad people. I use the F word all the F-ing time. I know I'm a good person. One thing as nothing to do with the other.