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Mirandee
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posted November 05, 2004 10:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/05/opinion/05krugman.html?th

No Surrender
By PAUL KRUGMAN

Published: November 5, 2004


President Bush isn't a conservative. He's a radical - the leader of a coalition that deeply dislikes America as it is. Part of that coalition wants to tear down the legacy of Franklin Roosevelt, eviscerating Social Security and, eventually, Medicare. Another part wants to break down the barriers between church and state. And thanks to a heavy turnout by evangelical Christians, Mr. Bush has four more years to advance that radical agenda.

Democrats are now, understandably, engaged in self-examination. But while it's O.K. to think things over, those who abhor the direction Mr. Bush is taking the country must maintain their intensity; they must not succumb to defeatism.

This election did not prove the Republicans unbeatable. Mr. Bush did not win in a landslide. Without the fading but still potent aura of 9/11, when the nation was ready to rally around any leader, he wouldn't have won at all. And future events will almost surely offer opportunities for a Democratic comeback.

I don't hope for more and worse scandals and failures during Mr. Bush's second term, but I do expect them. The resurgence of Al Qaeda, the debacle in Iraq, the explosion of the budget deficit and the failure to create jobs weren't things that just happened to occur on Mr. Bush's watch. They were the consequences of bad policies made by people who let ideology trump reality.

Those people still have Mr. Bush's ear, and his election victory will only give them the confidence to make even bigger mistakes.

So what should the Democrats do?

One faction of the party is already calling for the Democrats to blur the differences between themselves and the Republicans. Or at least that's what I think Al From of the Democratic Leadership Council means when he says, "We've got to close the cultural gap." But that's a losing proposition.

Yes, Democrats need to make it clear that they support personal virtue, that they value fidelity, responsibility, honesty and faith. This shouldn't be a hard case to make: Democrats are as likely as Republicans to be faithful spouses and good parents, and Republicans are as likely as Democrats to be adulterers, gamblers or drug abusers. Massachusetts has the lowest divorce rate in the country; blue states, on average, have lower rates of out-of-wedlock births than red states.

But Democrats are not going to get the support of people whose votes are motivated, above all, by their opposition to abortion and gay rights (and, in the background, opposition to minority rights). All they will do if they try to cater to intolerance is alienate their own base.

Does this mean that the Democrats are condemned to permanent minority status? No. The religious right - not to be confused with religious Americans in general - isn't a majority, or even a dominant minority. It's just one bloc of voters, whom the Republican Party has learned to mobilize with wedge issues like this year's polarizing debate over gay marriage.

Rather than catering to voters who will never support them, the Democrats - who are doing pretty well at getting the votes of moderates and independents - need to become equally effective at mobilizing their own base.

In fact, they have made good strides, showing much more unity and intensity than anyone thought possible a year ago. But for the lingering aura of 9/11, they would have won.

What they need to do now is develop a political program aimed at maintaining and increasing the intensity. That means setting some realistic but critical goals for the next year.

Democrats shouldn't cave in to Mr. Bush when he tries to appoint highly partisan judges - even when the effort to block a bad appointment fails, it will show supporters that the party stands for something. They should gear up for a bid to retake the Senate or at least make a major dent in the Republican lead. They should keep the pressure on Mr. Bush when he makes terrible policy decisions, which he will.

It's all right to take a few weeks to think it over. (Heads up to readers: I'll be starting a long-planned break next week, to work on a economics textbook. I'll be back in January.) But Democrats mustn't give up the fight. What's at stake isn't just the fate of their party, but the fate of America as we know it.

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QueenofSheeba
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posted November 05, 2004 11:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's a choice between principles and power. I'm going with principles, because in this case, imitating the other side is worse than losing.

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Hello everybody! I used to be QueenofSheeba and then I was Apollo and now I am QueenofSheeba again (and I'm a guy in case you didn't know)!

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Mirandee
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posted November 06, 2004 12:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, Sheba. I wouldn't vote for them if they became like the intolerant Republicans.

Actually, using the word "Republican" in describing Bush and his followers is an insult to the true conservative Republican party. Neo-cons are what the Bush administration are. Neo-conservatives who have completely reshaped and reformed the true Republican party who believed in fiscal responsibility, downsizing government ( Bush has the largest government in history and is forming new committees all the time)and not getting involved unnecessarily in the matters of other governments. The Republican Party began to change under Reagan's administration, continued to change with Bush senior and now has been completely taken over by the Religious Right.

We have a reason to be very much afraid for our country. I see a Theocracy in the making here. A rule of intolerance.

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Randall
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posted November 06, 2004 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Social security is an illegal Ponzi scheme (chain letter) that is soon to topple on its own weight. Most politicians just want to postpone the inevitable and wear blinders. At least Bush is trying to solve the problem. People who are in the work force should still get it, but anyone not yet working should find a better way; that way we can phase it out over a generation.

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pidaua
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posted November 08, 2006 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump.....Same old Mantra - same old patterns.

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juniperb
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posted November 08, 2006 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
... but I miss QueenofSheeba He`s off to Cornell!

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

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pidaua
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posted November 08, 2006 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking about alot of our old timers the other day. There was a thread in Soul Unions (I think) about twin flames. Lots of old knowflakes.

I am sure QoS is doing well - didn't he change his username though?

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