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Author Topic:   Free Expression and the right to post. You are free to ignore ANY post at any time.
dafremen
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posted November 09, 2004 12:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(This was originally posted at Free-For-All. It was moved here to reduce the number of Knowflakes who would read it, not to "spare them from contention." There are those here who have a vested interest in promoting censorship without appearing to promote censorship.)

Putting on the Libran hat for a second. If you have chosen to read this post, then you, and you alone are responsible for that action. Accusing me of shoving it down your throat is an illogical (negatively charged) statement design to absolve yourself of the responsibility for your own decisions.

You decided to read this post. I didn't come to your front door and preach it to you, I didn't drive through your neighborhood blasting it in your ear, and I didn't come to your place of work and force you to read it. This is not Site TV in our schools. This is not blaring rap music in your neighborhood. This is not a traveling evangelist coming to interrupt your dinner.

This is me, expressing a view, politely, but passionately, which I believe very strongly in: Freedom of Speech. You cannot shove something down someone's throat which they CHOOSE to put in front of their own face.

Some would like you to believe that, certainly.

It makes it easier to demonize the message they disagree with, by saying that it is being forced upon them against their will.

It is a statement which is blatantly false.

Until just last night, I had not visited Global Unity. I don't like what's going on there, disagree with the partisan bickering.

But it is CERTAINLY the right of the people there to speak their mind. It would be absurd for me to claim that they are shoving their partisan politics down my throat if I choose to go in there and read what they have written. I'm sure we can all agree that such a statement would be preposterous.

There is no difference between this, and posts about religion.

When someone mentions religion, it has become the defacto argument that these people are "shoving religion down your throat."

You may well have a point if your parents drag you to the brimstone and fire sermon.

You do NOT have a point if you choose to read a post containing religious references.

In that case, YOU'VE stuck it in your own face.

daf

P.S. Don't look for responses. I'm on to the next post. Enjoy the feeding frenzy.

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 09, 2004 12:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look. You guys have been busted. There has been a great deal of deceit among your fellow spiritually enlightened homies.

So, daf... I was off on who it was, but you knew all along I was on to your crap... admit it.

Anyhow, This is going where it belongs (IMO), with the rest... in GU.

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orchidspirit
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posted November 09, 2004 12:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Librasparkle

Thankyou for the compliment I had not before considered myself spiritually enlightened.

Have you considered before how like attracts like.....?

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 09, 2004 12:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's hard to express attitude through a message board.

Make no mistake. That was no compliment.

I was being sarcastic, hence the italics.

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orchidspirit
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posted November 09, 2004 01:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Librasparkle

I am not as stupid as you may think I am,
as I asked you have you ever thought how like attracts like?

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 09, 2004 01:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What exactly are you trying to bait me into?

Why don't y'all just start being upfront instead of cryptic and deceptive?

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orchidspirit
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posted November 09, 2004 01:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im not baiting you into anything, why would you feel that? I thanked you for your lack of compliments and asked a question.

I did not do as you did and become sarcastic and lower myself to name calling. Maybe I should ask what are you trying to bait me into??????

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 09, 2004 01:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What am I trying to bait you into? Uh. The truth. Y'all should try it some time.

And, please. Tell me where I called you a name.

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orchidspirit
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posted November 09, 2004 01:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am seeking the truth Librasparkle, please feel free to demonstrate where you think I seek other.

and above

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 09, 2004 01:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(This was originally posted at Free-For-All. It was moved here to reduce the number of Knowflakes who would read it, not to "spare them from contention." There are those here who have a vested interest in promoting censorship without appearing to promote censorship.)

Gimme a F'in break, daf. You're out of your ever lovin' mind.

Again, you are having issues with the truth.

You and your comrades are the ones responsible for the subterfuge.

I asked nicely once to not turn this into a drama fest. You have chosen to do so anyhow.

You created this daf. Pat yourself on the back, dude.

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orchidspirit
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posted November 09, 2004 01:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Librasparkle if you did not want to turn this into a drama fest why do you continue to post?

Why refer to us as "spiritually enlightened homies" if not to incite reactions????

Seeing as you havent shown me where i continue to seek other than the truth I will assume you have had a change of opinion.

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26taurus
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posted November 09, 2004 02:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
orchid,

LibraSparkle is 'continuing to post' because you are asking her questions. The 'drama' was started by non other than Daf. Yes, we could ignore him, but it's more fun not to. I would think people who are on a spiritual path would know enough not to start silly strings such as this. You would think they would know when to walk away and use their time and energy on better things.

The 'Truth' is right in front of all of our faces. It's not something to go on a wild goose chase for. Simply open your eyes. Find out what YOUR truth is, and live it.

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"We don't see things as they are...we see things as we are".
-Anais Nin

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 09, 2004 02:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think what you'd like to think. I really don't care. Come to any conclusion about me that you please.

Your thoughts are of no consequence to me.

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pidaua
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posted November 09, 2004 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also posted this on FFA:

I have read all of the posts and I am disgusted. Disgusted at the fact that a small group of people would portray themselves as "masters" and "Disciples" while expecting others to just fall along and take the "comet's path" to enlightenment. For those that questioned the forced religious zealousness of the "master" they were questions and put down or made to feel that they were not of the "enlightened crowd"

Riddles, poems, games- that all it was - subterfuge wrapped in a bow of "peace". No different than the zealots that knock on the door with the hope of converting the lost souls in the house.

What is worse, what saddens me the most, is that so many people were willing to subscribe to the "master" without proper analysis. To me this speaks of how much we all trust each other here at LindaLand and how a few- a group -a cult- can come in and abuse that trust. I do commend those that wanted to give this group a chance to explain their theory, unfortunately all we got was a bunch of riddles and ryhmes.

Keep in mind, that this is the same group that started the "witch-hunt". The game of "there is evil here...but not here..maybe it's outside..but we won't point fingers..well maybe just a bit". The only so called 'evil' here was that which was perpetrated by that so called "group". Free speech yes, but speech that incites a riot either online or off is not what our fore-fathers intended.

COME ON PEOPLE....talk about a false prophet..can you think of any "Master" in history that had to play THESE games? Randall was right..and he followed his gut, there were several of us that felt that same way -even in the first witch-hunt.

Hmmm...yes...in fact I do believe I called the group on that didn't I- being the same person..or sharing identities..


Face it..the group was caught with the IP thing - it happens - it's over- can we now get on with our lives?

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26taurus
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posted November 09, 2004 02:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said pid.

And yes, can we move on now???

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orchidspirit
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posted November 09, 2004 02:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
26T Librasparkle was posting before I asked her any questions, if you follow the thread above you will see this, and I can assure I am on no wild goose chase.

Librasparkle, I have no thoughts about you whatsoever, I made an assumption - didnt take any thinking at all.

Pidaua - I quite agree it is time we all got on with our lives and stopped this, but I would just like to point out that at no point was I involved in any witch hunt and nor did I point any fingers at people with regards to any witch hunt.

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26taurus
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posted November 09, 2004 02:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Um yeah? I see what was said above. I still say the same thing. You started asking her questions, she was responding to them.

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 09, 2004 02:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Orchid... let us look back at the post and see that each time I responded aside from the first was to one of your posts.

So... the same *could* be said to you: Why do you keep posting?

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orchidspirit
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posted November 09, 2004 02:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes she was 26T but she was responding before I asked any questions - technically a little different to her only posting because I was asking questions

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orchidspirit
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posted November 09, 2004 02:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I keep posting because I dont like being referred to in a sarcastic manner nor do I like to hear my friends spoke of in that way, and then you started asking me questions so I replied.

And actually your 5th post down you started another onslaught onto Daf, whom as I recall had been quiet since the first one. Go figure???

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26taurus
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posted November 09, 2004 02:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

Why continue to post? Why not?

Why not ask Daf the same thing. That is really the most boggling part of all of this. Why he continues to start all of these threads.

And yes, I pointed out that Daf started this thread, big deal.

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 09, 2004 02:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand completely how one could confuse the clarity of my responses above. To those of us that think, it clearly shows how I responded to YOU in each post aside from the first. Those of us that choose not to think, but rely on assumption will be confused.

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orchidspirit
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posted November 09, 2004 02:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm I am sure you addressed Daf directly in the 5th post, but maybe I was mistaken its just that you did mention Daf directly and not me.


Now whos being cryptic.....? I thought being cryptic belonged to those of us who rely on assumptions and not thought.

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26taurus
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posted November 09, 2004 02:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*sigh* which post orchid? I'm sure I probably was directing you in what ever you are talking about. Why dont you quote it and stop being so cryptic yourself? I stand by whatever I said, in whichever post you are refering to. Please, enlighten me.

The "5th post" in the string was made by you. And this is the "5th post" I've made.

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 09, 2004 02:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
games games games

If it's games you're interested in, we have a few going on in FFA.

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And there's this one in Teen Spirit:

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