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jwhop
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posted November 19, 2004 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Keep those PESTS out of Canada
by Arthur Weinreb, Associate Editor,

November 19, 2004

Within a week of the U.S. presidential election, Dr. Douglas Schooler, a Palm Beach Florida trauma specialist began treating patients for what is now known as PEST--Post-election selection trauma. Schooler told the Boca Raton News that he was treating 15 patients who were traumatized by John Kerry's loss to George W. Bush. Schooler described his patients as being "emotionally paralyzed, shocked and devastated, depressed and angry" and "threatening to leave the country" because of the election results. The good doctor also told the newspaper that these Kerry supporters have feelings of "extreme anger, despair, hopelessness, powerlessness, a failure to function behaviorally, a sense of disillusionment, of not wanting to vote anymore". Wow!

Dr. Rob Gordon, a director with the American Health Association is working on a counselling program for the condition that he said was one of short term shock rather than a childhood trauma (how he knows that it's only short time when the tumultuous event that caused only happened a week before remains a mystery).

The plot thickened after conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh angered the shrinks by offering free counselling services to anyone who was afflicted with PEST. Some Florida practitioners went nuts (pardon the pun) after listening to Limbaugh's free offer on his widely listened to program. Limbaugh "has made a mockery of a valid psychological problem", whined Sheila Cooperman, a licensed clinician with the American Health Association. "He's trying to ridicule the emotional state this presidential election produced in many of us here in Palm Beach County."

Cooperman hit the nail on the head even though she likely didn't intend to. You will notice that she did not say that Post-election selection trauma is an affliction that is quickly incapacitating people all across the United States who just cannot cope with another four years of George W. Bush. She spoke only of "many of us here in Palm Beach County." Interestingly enough this devastating condition that Limbaugh dared to mock seems to be restricted to certain wealthy enclaves in Florida. Kerry's sidekick, John Edwards spoke a lot about "two Americas" yet those in the "other" America seem symptom free. PEST has not broken out in the inner cities by people whose lives would be so improved if only John Kerry had won. Rural areas in West Virginia and Arkansas, where the kids of the residents are all off in Iraq fighting that immoral war seem likewise to be immune from the plague that hit the Boca Raton area. This spanking new psychological condition appears to be restricted to the pampered "rich"--you know the ones who will benefit from George Bush's tax cuts.

Contrary to what the doctors and the counsellors say, it is not Limbaugh that is making a mockery of trauma sufferers. It is these politically motivated Bush-hating shrinks who dare to compare the results of a freely-held election with such events as war, famine, ethnic cleaning and terrorist attacks; event that really cause people to become traumatized, that are making light of a serious medical condition. They should all get a life.

Luckily, despite the desire of some of these "patients" to flee the country we can keep them out of Canada. Canada's immigration law makes people inadmissible to Canada if they "might reasonably be expected to cause excessive demand on health or social services." And just because we don't enforce the law when it comes to dangerous criminals and terrorists doesn't mean we won't keep these sicko Floridians out. We do enforce the medical provisions of our law. Just ask some wealthy Hong Kong entrepreneur with a mildly retarded child who has been refused landing in Canada.

Besides, Canada has enough people who sit around whining and complaining; the last thing we need is a bunch of PESTS.

And PEST is not a condition that can arise naturally in Canada. After all no matter what happens here or what political views people hold, we all know that the Liberals are going to win the election before it is even called. Being PEST-free is just one of the benefits of being a quasi-dictatorship. Let's keep it that way.
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posted November 19, 2004 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I heard that the Canadians of Alberta want to move Florida, Jesusland, should we stop them?

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posted November 19, 2004 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think they would be much more comfortable with Pennsylvania. Florida is Bush country.

A Gathering of Eagles
Lowell Ponte
Friday, Nov. 19, 2004
This article appeared in Front Page Magazine Nov. 18.

Impressions From Restoration Weekend


A glow, like dawn, seemed to come from the Boca Raton Resort and Club as I approached last Thursday. Inside, the first friend I recognized was John O’Neill, who co-founded Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, co-authored the best seller "Unfit for Command," and, as political expert Dick Morris here would say two days later, “ate up a month” of John Kerry’s 2004 campaign and almost certainly caused Kerry’s defeat.

O’Neill was one of several heroes at this Restoration Weekend who have literally changed history. Another, Natan Sharansky, helped bring down the Soviet Union and free captive Soviet Jews. Others have been among the founding fathers and freedom fighters of a conservative movement that has rescued our Bill of Rights and renewed the spirit of liberty in America.

The sunrise glow filling this Restoration Weekend came from a gathering of eagles, from some of the great and noble souls who are the saving remnant of humankind.


The Spanish explorer Juan Ponce de Leon called this place Florida, “flowery,” likely because his quest for the fabled Fountain of Youth landed him here during Easter week, which the Spanish call “Pascua florida.”


This Restoration Weekend was set at what had been Ground Zero during the 2000 Democrat effort to steal the election here in Palm Beach County. The Spanish called this place Boca Raton, literally “mouth of the rat,” because to them this inlet seemed a den of cutthroats and pirates.


As Restoration Weekend commenced, Democrats here were being given “intense hypnotherapy” by local psychologist Douglas Schooler for what he called PEST, “post-election selection trauma,” the shock of John Kerry’s crushing defeat.


“I had one friend tell me he’s never been so depressed and angry in his life,” Schooler told the Boca Raton News. “I observed patients threatening to leave the country or staring listlessly into space. They were emotionally paralyzed, shocked and devastated.”


To the elated gathering at Restoration Weekend, the November 2 election produced the opposite effect. As the guiding mind behind The Almanac of American Politics and a senior writer at U.S. News & World Report, Michael Barone, shared with his fellow Restoration Weekenders, the ongoing vote count now suggests that Kerry lost to President George W. Bush by a margin not of 51-48 but of 52-48. “America,” Barone told us, “is no longer a 50-50 nation.”


The people have begun to vote for liberty by rejecting liberalism. Barring some unforeseen event, it now appears that the Republican Party will hold the White House and Congress for at least a generation. Without such power, Democrats cannot buy votes, as they had done to retain power in the past. The socialism that has seized control of the Democratic Party is now sliding into the garbage disposal of history. It’s easy to see why the Demons are screaming and suffering from PEST.


Only miles from our gathering place, 9/11 terrorist Mohamed Atta had visited a local South Florida airport and inquired about renting and using a crop duster. Other 9/11 terrorists rented a post office box in Delray Beach, just north of Boca Raton. Two weeks prior to 9/11, the growing Muslim community in Boca Raton had announced plans to build not just one but two new mosques here from which locals could be called five times daily to bow toward Mecca.


Only weeks before this Restoration Weekend, the liberal Florida Supreme Court (that tried to jigger the vote recount to make Democratic candidate Al Gore president in 2000) ruled in favor of the City of Boca Raton. The city’s liberal lawmakers had banned “vertical markers” at the municipal cemetery – i.e., had prohibited families from leaving small American flags, crosses or Stars of David at loved ones’ graves – after Politically Correct Democrat mouths complained that their sensitivities were hurt by such displays of American patriotism, Christianity and Judaism.

Florida has a new law defending the religious rights of citizens, but the Democrat lawmakers of Boca Raton and the Florida Supreme Court slapped these rights aside. Does any rational person wonder why America is rejecting liberalism?


Boca Raton was, therefore, a place well-chosen to celebrate freedom’s restoration. Friday’s breakfast speaker, Senator John Sununu, R-N.H., reflected the gathering’s optimistic light, as did veteran political consultant Charlie Black.


A note of caution came during 11 a.m.’s panel discussion. Generals Thomas McInerney and Paul Vallely are familiar to news watchers and co-authors of the new book "Endgame: The Blueprint for Victory in the War on Terror." They reminded the audience that a handful of terrorists armed with nuclear weapons could drive into big cities and kill as many as 30 million Americans.

Another panel that morning discussed steps needed to defend our homeland during the war on terrorism. It featured, among others, Senator Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., and Michelle Malkin, author of "In Defense of Internment: The Case for Racial Profiling in World War II and the War on Terror."


During lunch, Wayne LaPierre, Chief Executive Officer of the National Rifle Association, discussed how the traditional American impulses of self-reliance and our right to self-defense had been factors in the 2004 election. The fact that longtime gun-control advocate and supporter John Kerry felt compelled to campaign in camouflage while carrying a shotgun and pretending to be a hunter, said LaPierre, shows how far the political balance on this issue has shifted in favor of liberty.


The evening featured something new for Restoration Weekend – an organized book signing. Entire conventions of the American Booksellers Association rarely bring together the sheer star power of the dozen major authors happy to sign an unlimited number of books that Friday night for approximately 250 Restoration Weekenders.

One of these stars was Bernard Goldberg, who warned of media liberalism like Dan Rather’s in his best sellers "Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News" and "Arrogance: Rescuing America from the Media Elite." Another was Fox News analyst, New York Post columnist, co-creator of the anti-Michael Moore documentary "Fahrenhype 911" and Clinton political adviser Dick Morris, signing his (and his co-author wife’s) latest book about the Clintons, "Because He Could."


Among these famous signers was Michael Barone, the brilliant demographer whose latest book is "Hard America, Soft America: Competition vs. Coddling and the Battle for the Nation’s Future." Another such leading light in America was military historian and History Channel superstar Victor Davis Hanson, signing his books such as "Mexifornia: A State of Becoming" and "Ripples of Battle: How Wars of the Past Still Determine How We Fight, How We Live, and How We Think," packed with insights needed to fight terrorism.


Col. Robert “Buzz” Patterson, who carried the “nuclear football” at President Clinton’s side and in the process witnessed things that horrified him, was busy signing copies of his latest revelations, "Reckless Disregard: How Liberal Democrats Undercut Our Military, Endanger Our Soldiers, and Jeopardize Our Security."

Happily signing their latest were Michelle Malkin, famed feminist Phyllis Chesler, and psychologist and author of "Final Judgment: The End of Conflict," Wayne Davidson. Greeting people alongside them was former Georgia Congressman Bob Barr, who heroically put his career on the line by bringing President Clinton to justice and writes about it in his new book, "The Meaning of Is: The Squandered Impeachment and Wasted Legacy of William Jefferson Clinton."


This night was a chance to touch history, to shake the hand and cherish the personal signature of John O’Neill, and to make a collector’s item of former Marxist, famed author and human rights leader David Horowitz’s new best seller, "Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left."


One of the highest moments of Restoration Weekend came next as editor in chief of the Weekly Standard and Fox News contributor Bill Kristol introduced one of our time’s greatest heroes, Natan Sharansky. In the former Soviet Union Sharansky was a mathematician, human rights activist and English interpreter for Andrei Sakharov. The Soviets sentenced him to 13 years in prison after he applied for an exit visa to Israel.

Sharansky was imprisoned, then sent to the Gulag in Siberia. But rather than despair, he taught himself Hebrew and found strength in his faith and Jewish heritage. As his wife, Avital, worked tirelessly for his release, Sharansky became a worldwide symbol of Soviet Jewry.


Sharansky was released in a 1986 East-West prisoner exchange. He moved to Israel, worked successfully to free other Soviet Jews and to help Russian Jews who came to Israel, and in 1995 founded a new political party, Yisrael b’Aliyah, dedicated to helping immigrants. This party promptly won seven seats in Israel’s legislature, the Knesset, and Sharansky has since served in the Cabinet. Today he is Israel’s Minister of Housing and Construction.


True to his Jewish faith, Sharansky that Shabbat night spoke without a microphone to a hushed and attentive audience. Giving people freedom and the right to select their own government, he explained, was the best antidote to terrorism. If we refuse to be terrorized, then the terrorists will lose.

His own life is an inspiring example of the power of human courage, determination and faith. We live in an age of giants, as Sharansky shows us. He, too, had been autographing his co-authored book "The Case for Democracy: The Power of Freedom to Overcome Tyranny and Terror."


By the end of Restoration Weekend’s first full day, those taking part could feel their minds, hearts and spirits expanding. Even the comic talent who closed after Sharansky’s speech brought deep thought as well as laughter. Tim Slagle, whose first comedy recording is about to be released, is also a contributing editor of libertarian Liberty Magazine.


Saturday on Restoration Weekend began with a speech by former Central Intelligence Agency director R. James Woolsey, who explained how terrorist-vulnerable America is because of our highly centralized economy and infrastructure systems supplying electricity, fuel, food and other necessities for our way of life.


A panel on media followed. It included Bernard Goldberg along with famed actor Robert Davi. Kevin Bleyer, a producer/writer on CNBC’s “Dennis Miller Show” who wrote for “Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher,” offered wit and wisdom. Other panelists were writer/director Jason Apuzzo and his actress/writer wife, Govindini Murty, who with little money but great verve and energy successfully launched the first Hollywood festival of conservative films in 2004.

Many of these films, including a documentary about Ann Coulter, another titled “Brainwashing 101” about left-wing indoctrination on college campuses, and “In the Face of Evil” about Ronald Reagan’s 40-year struggle against Communism, were later screened for Restoration Weekenders.


A Restoration Weekend can be like taking several college courses in only three days. Before noon, participants also had a choice of panels. One was on the direction of conservatism, featuring U.S. Senators Jeff Sessions and legendary baseball pitcher Jim Bunning, R-Ken.; the right honorable David Keene of the American Conservative Union; and the influential head of Americans for Tax Reform, Grover Norquist.

The other panel, about Israel and the terrorist war against America, included Victor Davis Hanson, Ralph Hallow of the Washington Times, Phyllis Chesler, Daniel Pipes of the Middle East Forum, and Frank Gaffney of the Center for Security Policy. Over lunch we heard the wisdom of NRA President Kayne Robinson and Senator Trent Lott, R-Miss.


The evening’s banquet culminated with the Annie Taylor Awards, named for the first woman to go over Niagara Falls in a barrel and survive. The ceremony, introduced by David Horowitz and emceed by Shannon Reeves, president of the Oakland, Calif., NAACP, went swimmingly. The awards, given for courage and pluck against long odds, went to several heroes. The first was John Bryant, who founded Operation HOPE to teach personal economic empowerment in America’s inner cities.


A second Taylor Award went to Carlton Sherwood, the Pulitzer and Peabody Award-winning journalist who produced the 45-minute documentary “Stolen Honor: Wounds that Never Heal,” about former POWs in Vietnam who heard John Kerry’s anti-American statements used by their captors in an effort to torture and break them. The Democratic Party was so terrified of this documentary that it used every kind of vile threat and intimidation to prevent the airing of “Stolen Honor” by Sinclair Broadcast Group.


I was watching these presentations with friend Chris Ruddy, head of NewsMax.com, one of America’s top Internet news sources. With typical modesty, Chris never mentioned his key role in raising $1.7 million so that “Stolen Honor” could air repeatedly during the days just before the November election on PAX TV, available in 90 percent of homes in America. Its 10 airings on PAX reached an estimated 5 million viewers.


The third Taylor Award winner that night was John O’Neill, a 1967 graduate of the Naval Academy at Annapolis, commander of Kerry’s own Swift Boat PCF94 in Vietnam, a top-rank graduate of the University of Texas Law School, former law clerk for Justice William Rehnquist (1974-75) and attorney in Houston.

Such facts went unmentioned by a liberal media trying to discredit and destroy O’Neill and more than 260 other highly decorated Vietnam Swift Boat vets who were telling the unappetizing truth about John Kerry.


As John Fund of the Wall Street Journal (who was once more at Restoration Weekend) passionately wrote last Monday, when John O’Neill began his crusade last February he was in intensive care, having just donated a kidney to his wife, Anne. But this noble soldier, at risk to his own life and health, toured the country doing hundreds of media interviews amidst the most hateful left-wing flak attacks.

With the steadiness of a genuine hero in combat, O’Neill’s integrity cut to pieces the tissue of pro-Kerry lies concocted by the left-wing establishment media. His assault ended Kerry’s hopes of winning.


The heroism shown by O’Neill and his fellow Swift Boat Veterans for Truth had been “the last mission” of Vietnam War veterans, said the final Taylor Award winner, Jim Warner, who had been a Marine pilot and prisoner of war in Vietnam and is now Assistant General Counsel to the National Rifle Association.

The good guys won this time, completing their mission “on November 3, at 2:08 p.m. Eastern Time, when John Kerry conceded the presidential race to George W. Bush.”


Sunday at Restoration Weekend began with David Horowitz moderating a panel mostly of students. Brett Mock of Ball State University, Bradley Alexander of the University of Georgia, and Bryan Henderson of Concord College recounted their experiences being bullied and threatened by left-wing professors and administrators.

They gave shocking examples of the indoctrination now widespread at what used to be bastions of free speech and free thought. At one campus a saxophone teacher headed “Peace Studies,” whose Orwellian name cloaked a course that made ideological war against American values and punished dissent.


David French, president of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE), discussed cases in which his organization assisted such students in fighting the intimidation of totalitarian leftist professors and administrators. This panel made clear how urgently America needs an Academic Bill of Rights of the sort advanced by Students for Academic Freedom (SAF).

Fittingly, it was concluded by Peter Kinder, the new lieutenant governor of Missouri, who has led the fight for the Academic Bill of Rights in that state. He told the audience that the newly elected governor of Missouri, Matt Blunt, “would sign the Academic Bill of Rights in the new year.”


What struck me while listening to these students was that their experiences closely paralleled African-Americans at the dawn of the modern Civil Rights movement. They were being told to shut up, not get uppity, not question authority, and were threatened with loss of their careers (and even their physical safety) if they refused to conform.

As I found myself saying at the start of the next and final panel of Restoration Weekend, by helping spearhead the effort to liberate America’s college and university campuses, David Horowitz continues to be one of the great human rights activists of our time. History is written by the winners, and at the moment prospects seem bright that honest and decent people are winning.


The Left today, I said, is suffering its own version of “Irish Alzheimer’s,” a terminal disease in which all one remembers are the grudges. The Left’s idealism is gone, discredited by historic proof that socialism and Marxism do far more to destroy people than to benefit them.

All the Left has left, as David Horowitz writes in "Unholy Alliance," is nihilism, an impulse to take capitalism down, too. All the left remembers is its longtime hatred of capitalism, individualism and private property. And leftists are now willing to ally themselves with the Islamist Genghis Khans who attacked the World Trade Center, symbol of global capitalism, to destroy their old foe.


Karl Marx, I said, knew that overthrowing the bourgeoisie would be extremely difficult. Marx recognized that, like his favored proletariat, the bourgeoisie was also a revolutionary class – the class that overthrew the kings. We modern capitalists should embrace our revolutionary strength as capitalists and individualists and not be intimidated by Marxists or Muslim medievalists eager to put the world under the rule of one Islamic Caliph (the professed aim of Osama bin Laden).


One way to defend ourselves from both terror and socialism, I argued, as I have in past years at FrontPage Magazine, is sprawl. The left hates sprawl, not for the environmental reasons it claims but because sprawl happens when hard-working city dwellers move out beyond the reach of city tax collectors. Sprawl means that these people can no longer be milked to pay for welfare and meaningless government jobs in Democrat-controlled big cities.

A redistribution of productive people can mean an end to the socialist redistribution of their income on which the modern left depends.


Sprawl is also a natural form of self-defense against terrorism, I argued. People packed together by the millions in dense cities are an easy and tempting target. People spread out over hundreds of square miles are a difficult target. And the same logic, as former CIA director Woolsey observed on Restoration Weekend Saturday, applies to our vulnerability from highly centralized infrastructure.

I noted that we already have the technology to decentralize our electrical and other key grids, thereby greatly reducing our vulnerability to technological terrorism. The Internet itself was begun by the military’s Darpanet, a decentralized system intended to be invulnerable to centralized attack.


“We’re all Israelis now,” wrote feminist Phyllis Chesler minutes after the attack on 9/11. She told the audience that we must learn to adapt as Israelis did to this new threat environment, an environment in which she has seen many of her old feminist allies go over to the side of the enemy. Her recent book, "The New Anti-Semitism: The Current Crisis and What We Must Do About It" boldly examines the self-hating, self-destructive impulses now controlling much of the Left in the Western World.


Restoration Weekends also bring together those making America better at several levels of politics. Members of Congress such as Ed Royce, R-Calif.; John Culberson, R-Texas; and Jack Quinn, R-N.Y., were here. So, too, were many who work out of the spotlight to develop ideas and organize campaigns to advance the cause of liberty.


Restoration Weekends also provide opportunities to make new friends from many walks of life. Actor Robert Davi’s face is familiar to most of us from his roles in such movies as the James Bond thriller “Licence to Kill” and “The Goonies,” and from television shows ranging from “Stargate: Atlantis” to “St. Elsewhere,” “Hill Street Blues,” “Charlie’s Angels” and his ground-breaking 1996 series “Profiler.”

During a 27-year career, he has played opposite Frank Sinatra and been in projects with Marlon Brando, Clint Eastwood, Bruce Willis, Steven Spielberg, California’s Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and many others.

But on this weekend we chatted for an hour under Florida stars about his forthcoming role in the movie “Gilgamesh,” the history of the Middle East, his studies with Stella Adler and Lee Strasberg, his views of the universe and his political experiences as a conservative in Hollywood. It was good to make a new friend of Robert Davi, a person of great talent, intelligence and integrity.


The glow from Restoration Weekends never ends. It goes home with all who attend, warming their hearts and lighting their understanding for a lifetime. And in the best spirit of our Democratic Republic, everyone is welcome to come. For those who love politics, it is a grand, expansive adventure. I hope to see you at next year’s Restoration Weekend.

Mr. Ponte hosts a national radio talk show Saturdays 6-9 p.m. Eastern time (3-6 p.m. Pacific time) and Sundays 9 p.m.-midnight Eastern time (6-9 p.m. Pacific time) on the Liberty Broadcasting network (formerly TalkAmerica). Internet Audio worldwide is at LibertyBroadcasting .com. The show's live call-in number is 1-866-GO LOWELL (1-866-465-6935). A professional speaker, he is a former Roving Editor for Reader's Digest.
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posted December 05, 2004 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You just have to love it when the so called tolerant left, broad minded to the last brain cell have their masks ripped off and their true nature shines brightly for all to see.

Speculation has been rife for years of mental instability associated with leftist thinking.

I for one, applaud them for seeking professional help.

Sunday, Dec. 5, 2004 11:31 a.m. EST
Group Therapy 'Screaming Epithets' at Bush

A group therapy session for those still having angst that the democratic process selected George Bush and not John Kerry this past Nov. 2, has turned into a hate-fest aimed at President Bush.

According to the Boca Raton News, Bush's victory has triggered psychological disorders in this tony South Florida Democratic community.
The paper reported last week that when some 20 Kerry voters met for their first therapy session Thursday at Boca's American Heath Association (AHA), the group's rage became uncontrollable.

Members of the group opened their session by "screaming epithets" at President Bush for "breaking up marriages and dividing families" as one victim put it.

The group shared their shattered emotions with licensed mental health counselors.

The distraught Kerry voters came to the first of the free noontime sessions offered by the association for treatment of the newly diagnosed and possibly contagious Post Election Selection Trauma (PEST) which causes victims to suffer from symptoms similar to post-traumatic stress disorder.

According to AHA officials, they include nightmares, sleeplessness, hostility, listlessness and emotional outbursts including threats to leave the country.

"If I had a cardboard cutout of President Bush and these people wanted to throw darts at it, I would let them do it," Robert J. Gordon, AHA executive director, told the Boca News after the session. "It's no joke. People with PEST were traumatized by the election. If you even mention religion, their faces turn blister-red as they shout at Bush."

Although the meeting was closed to the press, AHA therapists obtained permission from participants to provide an anonymous transcript to the Boca Raton News.

"I'm scared," said one man. "Democracy is at stake and nobody is rising to protest this president."

"I want to be a patriot, but it's impossible to be a patriot in an immoral war," said another participant, a woman. "Bush is breaking up marriages and dividing families by keeping our troops in Iraq."

And it's not just President Bush who frightens the PEST victims, Rush Limbaugh, for one, is also a bogey man panicking them.

"The media outlets, especially Rush Limbaugh and his ilk on talk radio, scare our patients to death," said Gordon, facilitator for the meetings. "More than anything else, people with PEST tremble physically."

He added that the Kerry supporters in therapy are predominantly Jewish and older than 50. Most are registered independents and all live in Palm Beach County.

"We mostly let them vent during the first session," Gordon said. "By the third session, we'll be doing some meditation exercises to aid some of their symptoms. We may use visualization and some techniques designed for bipolar disease and other mental disorders. That might help them adjust to reality."

"There's an overall sense of emotional helplessness and abandonment," Sheila Cooperman, a licensed AHA psychotherapist and a practicing psychic from Delray Beach told the News. "In psychology, we call it 'learned helplessness.' After you zap a caged dog twice, he stops moving because he knows there is no place to go. That's what happened with these Kerry voters. They've been zapped so many times that they're on the verge of giving up on politics."

Cooperman added, "One person today said he thinks the country is now run by fascists. Another felt personally threatened by the president's love for big business. Many believe Bush is going to draft their grandchildren. The anxiety may not affect them every day, but it affects their energy level."

The PEST epidemic seems to be spreading with 30 more trembling victims signed up for two other AHA election support groups which will meet for the remainder of the year and possibly beyond. Gordon said his patients' emotional problems typically started with the "hanging chad" debacle of 2000.

"First, they need to realize they're not going to overturn the 2004 election," Gordon said. "They have to live with it. The problem is they have no faith because they think the religious right has hijacked the political system. We try to tell them there is still an election in 2008. You can't just give up and be apathetic."

The AHA, using what the News described as "a holistic approach to health that has been mocked as new age voodoo by some national talk show hosts," assures patients that their post-election emotions are normal and deserve to be taken seriously.

"These people talk about the 2000 election being stolen," Gordon said. "They talk about Theresa LePore and the Ohio recount. They feel it's the 'Right House,' not the White House. They feel the world is not safe with George W. Bush as president. They spewed out a lot of anger. They are angry at the Democratic Party for being aimless and leaderless. They have a right to these feelings."

AHA is not the only one offering to deal with PEST, the News disclosed, citing one Boca psychologist Douglas Schooler, who alone treated 20 Kerry voters with intense hypnotherapy - for a sliding fee covered by his patients clients' insurance companies.

The News reported that some of his colleagues accused him of unethically "cashing in" on the misery of Kerry voters. In interviews with the Boca News, however, Schooler revealed that many of the Kerry supporters had visited him for severe mental problems prior to the election, perhaps an indication of why they backed Kerry in the first place.

Others outside of angst-ridden Boca Raton have also offered their services to PEST victims, the News said, citing conservative talk show hosts Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh who have generously offered their own "free therapy," to the dismay of the AHA counselors.
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All I can think of here is that someone should have done a better marketing job. PEST? That just turns the whole thing into a joke right off the bat. Who can take it seriously after that? Not that it might not be a serious matter to some people but come on! Where was the PR guy when they came up with this one????

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I thought that I spotted a can of PEST underneith my kitchen sink!

I believe that Republicans have a very hard time dealing with the fact that America had a president that got screwed from a bad realestate deal, more then a president that made demolition arrangements of skiscrapers(while people were still inside of the buildings)under the partnership of Larry Silverstein!

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So did Conservatives suffer from PEST long ago when Clinton one his second term?

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No way miss_apples! Conservatives by the thousands went to rifle and pistol ranges to sharpen their shooting skills....just in case Commander Corruption decided to stay on past his second term with some trumped up National Emergency.

We leave the squealing in impotent rage to the leftists.

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I see the tutelage you received in real estate investment fell on deaf ears Ozone.

Lesson one:
No one can suffer a loss on a real estate transaction in which they have no investment. Commander Corruption had not one penny invested in the real estate partnership in which he and Hillary received a 50% ownership position from the McDougals.

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I have noticed the only Constitutional right that gun owners uphold is the one about guns.

I dont see them defending any other amendment.

How about a deal?

You can have your damn guns, and we get freedom of speech and separation of church and state.

Sounds fair to me.

MK

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posted December 07, 2004 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry MK, no deal. I intend to keep all my Constitutional rights and defend them to the limits of my ability...with my Second Amendment right, if necessary. You're free to do the same.

Which government or government agency is limiting your right to freedom of speech?

There is no right to separation of church and state...never was. There is however, a prohibition against a government mandated religion.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

Most atheists have a lot of trouble getting their minds around the concept of the second part of that opening stanza of the First Amendment.

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posted December 07, 2004 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Their's nothing that's on record JW that actually really proves any of that, in fact, Kenneth Star's prosecution against the Clintons went to everything BUT the Whitewater affair, reaching from possible fraud, all the way up to the Lewinsky scandal!

Bill might have shot her in the head, but the Repukes managed to treat it like a murder anyway, yet she's still alive and well!

And NOW, the very networks that did everything in they're power to appease the Republicans back then, are living under the shadow of fear by them of all the indictment clauses that the networks can face!

Once Republicans feel discomfort over something, they seem to like the use of enforcing laws, THEY'RE LAWS, even to those that are of they're own!

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posted December 07, 2004 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

Well, it seems like that was the first thing that Bush has broken since the minute that he walked into the Oval office! It was left of top of the desk(as the Clintons were moving out), Dubya must have mistaken that piece of paper as his "27 items to do list 'once in office'"!

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posted December 07, 2004 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More hot air Ozone?

Please post all the legislative acts of the President or legislation the President has signed into law which established a state mandated religion for the United States.

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Seperation of Church and state isnt an amendment or in the bill of rights but I remember learning in school that it was in the constitution.

You know, I dont mind the occasional use of the word "God" in school but the bible bashers want Christianity based lessons in public school. I'd be open-minded about maybe an elective Christianity class, or any other religion, but not in everyday school lessons.

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You know, jwhop, I rather think those words you quoted amount to a separation of Church and State. It bars the State from adopting a religion by law, which means pretty much period. That's a pretty good separation, isn't it?

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Btw, jwhop, I just thought I'd let you know. I'm sharpening my shooting skills. At least one liberal is going to be ready to defend his rights the way they were originally won.

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posted December 09, 2004 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Please post all the legislative acts of the President or legislation the President has signed into law which established a state mandated religion for the United States.

I know that you enjoy testing people here JW, but now you gonna make us do homework too!

You might as well say, "That's it, I had enough, now I am lead to no choice then to have you all write a paper as a weekend work assignment!".


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Being the PEST that she is...


***Runs into the string to pants JW and runs back out***

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posted December 10, 2004 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The phraseology "separation of church and state" appears no where in the Constitution.

It comes from a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Association...in response to a letter I've never been able to find.

Could be that association was concerned another religious group was attempting to lobby the government to make their religion the official state religion, as the English Anglican Church was the official church of England...at the time.

Jefferson made it clear he was firmly against a state sponsored religion and for the 1st Amendment.

Some now want to make Jefferson's words mean there can be no connection between government and religion but that is not and was never the intent of the framers of the Constitution.

When someone attempts to use Jefferson's letter, they're treading on the thin ice of original intent of the framers. Since that's the argument being made, it's necessary to have a look at how religion and religious groups were dealt with by the early Presidents and Congress.

It will be a surprise to some to find out that the House of Representatives permitted church services to be held in the House chambers on Sunday....and that Jefferson attended those services most Sundays during his 8 years as President.

Further, one has only to look at speeches of the early President's and the foundation documents to find references to God liberally sprinkled throughout their writings.

Thomas Jefferson also permitted various religious groups to hold meetings and church services in various federal buildings in Washington, DC during his presidency. I'm reasonably sure Jefferson wasn't the only President who permitted those kinds of activities on the part of religious groups but it's Jefferson's words that are being construed out of context.

This is the text of Jefferson's letter and note that it was an official communication between the President of the United States and a religious group that made reference to God.

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists
The Final Letter, as Sent
To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.

Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.
http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html

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posted December 10, 2004 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm shocked LS

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Who wouldn't be depressed living under a baby killer govt.


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