posted February 11, 2005 05:18 PM              

Although I might not agree with your (would I be safe to say "ultraconservative"? ) views, I have a lot of respect for you as I see you as an educated, well-informed and articulate individual, who has a good heart. (and a sense of humor! a rarity amongst those of your views, IMO)

Was looking at a recent dialogue between you and maya-v:

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You were right abt AM on certain things but seriously, why do you take such a strong stand against anything unconventional or out of the ordinary?

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Hmmm maya-v, I'm far more radical/unconventional than you would believe...Uranus in Gemini

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posted February 11, 2005 05:37 PM              

border control/immigration....

posted February 11, 2005 08:27 PM              

Seriously, I think he just acts tough - he has as much of a sense of humor as any of us goofballs!

posted February 11, 2005 09:16 PM            

I'm mixing up some banana milkshakes, care to join me?

posted February 11, 2005 11:26 PM            

This should get you started delerious.

Repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, 12 USC 226 and all it's related legislation wherever found in any title of the US Code. Take all Federal Reserve Notes out of circulation and replace with United States Treasury Notes backed by silver...also known as Silver Certificates. Remove from circulation all clad coins and replace with silver coins of the appropriate silver weight for the demonation.

Invalidate every Federal Reserve/National Bank loan, including credit card debt based on bank credit where the bank used it's credit instead of money to secure a debt against a consumer.

Repeal 16th Amendment, Income Tax statutes and replace with a National Sales Tax, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service.

Repeal the 17th Amendment authorizing the direct election of Senators.

Withdraw from the United Nations, all UN Treaties and remove the UN, UN personnel and all it's agencies from the United States.

Withdraw from the World Trade Organization, NAFTA and all other international or regional trade organizations. Establish trade relations with nations only on an equal trade basis.

Prohibit Corporations chartered in the United States or their foreign subsideraries from producing goods abroad and shipping them into the United States.

Prohibit any foreign corporation from owning or controlling any agricultural land, any ranch land, orchards or groves in the United States.

Prohibit any foreign corporation from owning or controlling any US seed companies, seed stocks, grafting operations or any other operation dealing with United States food production.

Prohibit any state from issuing a drivers license to anyone without a United States birth certificate, naturalization papers or a valid visa to enter the United States and in the case of licenses issues from a valid vise, the drivers license expires on the date the visa expires.

Allocate at least $5 Billion for expansion of GTL operations in the United States. Gas to Liquid technology which converts waste methane flared off oil fields and converts it to clean burning liquid fuel. See Forbes Magazine http://www.forbes.com/business/forbes/2004/0524/100.html

Allocate at least $5 Billion for research in coal to clean burning liquid fuels.

posted February 12, 2005 08:54 AM              

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Repeal the 17th Amendment authorizing the direct election of Senators

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What's the alternative?

(and honestly I don't know enough about the last two to agree or disagree)

*sigh* all this agreeing with Jwhop stuff makes me feel a bit uneasy

posted February 12, 2005 10:55 AM            

But I wholeheartely agree with these ones especially-

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Withdraw from the World Trade Organization, NAFTA and all other international or regional trade organizations. Establish trade relations with nations only on an equal trade basis.

Prohibit Corporations chartered in the United States or their foreign subsideraries from producing goods abroad and shipping them into the United States.

Prohibit any foreign corporation from owning or controlling any agricultural land, any ranch land, orchards or groves in the United States.

Prohibit any foreign corporation from owning or controlling any US seed companies, seed stocks, grafting operations or any other operation dealing with United States food production

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posted February 12, 2005 10:55 AM            

The framers of the Constitution never intended the Federal Government to become so powerful...preferring governance much closer to home...at the state level. That's the reason the Constitution gives little power to the Federal government. In fact, the Constitution is all about limitations on federal power.

This is the original Constitutional language regarding Senators...prior to the 17th Amendment.

Article I, Section 3
The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.

Before the 17th Amendment, Senators were appointed by the state legislatures of each state and were intended to represent the interests of the states in Congress. As it is now, Senators represent the Federal government and the states be damned. The only thing Senators want from the states is to be reelected by citizens of the state they represent.

I would suggest the original method of appointing Senators should be
re-instituted...when the 17th Amendment is repealed.

If you read the article on synfuels and specifically Gas to Liquid technology, you saw that the methane that is burned off in producing oil fields equals the entire oil reserves of Saudi Arabia...when converted. That does not take into account all the natural gas wells which could also be converted...it's just the amount that is flared off...burned to prevent methane, which is a deadly gas from escaping into the atmosphere.

Further, it is estimated that there is enough coal in the United States to supply America's energy needs for something in excess of 200 years...at current energy usage levels.

Careful TINK, you're skating very close to the edge

Thanks Johnny but I so much as ran for dogcatcher of Dogpatch, every diplomat in the world, every banker in the world, every Senator, virtually every federal employee, every employee of the UN, every multinational corporation officer and most of their employee and every foreign corporation would start foaming at the mouth....if they knew how radical I am and thought I might get any closer to the levers of power in America.

posted February 12, 2005 11:08 AM            

As I recall, you buy and sell real estate...
Have a peek at this: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000222.html

Tink... I was thinking of you this a.m. Haven't had a chance to respond to any of your posts recently, but I always look for them for your insightful thoughts.

posted February 12, 2005 11:33 AM            

I may be able to get behind that then.. as long as the Senators could still be held accountable to the people of the state whose interests they are supposed to be upholding.

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As it is now, Senators represent the Federal government and the states be damned. The only thing Senators want from the states is to be reelected by citizens of the state they represent

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posted February 12, 2005 11:39 AM            

Theoretically, the people own the airwaves.. Perhaps we should require all t.v. and radio stations to allocate a certain percentage of their airtime to elections without charge as a service to the people to help rescue our democracy from corporate interest?

posted February 12, 2005 11:51 AM            

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Perhaps we should require all t.v. and radio stations to allocate a certain percentage of their airtime to elections without charge as a service to the people to help rescue our democracy from corporate interest?

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I just don't see that as ever happening. Nor do I see it working...sorry, but generally people just don't listen to the radio for that sort of thing, and those who do, look for news/talk shows that of course are never fair and balanced, but reflect their own political views.

posted February 12, 2005 07:30 PM              

Didnt give you one in the other thread where everyone else was! You lucky dog!

posted February 13, 2005 12:21 PM            

There is a whole body of comment on the 17th Amendment that would tend to show the comments you posted from FindLaw are overblown, off the mark, obtuse and lack the clarity to penetrate the means, methods and aims of those who perpetrated it upon America, not to mention the resulting loss of power it grabbed from the states and the power it conferred upon Senators.

It should also be noted that Senators, once under the control of state legislatures, to work for and to the benefit of the states and their people, are now under no one's control whatsoever...except for the special interests who lay millions in campaign money in their palms.

It is also notable that the only groups who gained from the 17th Amendment was the Federal government, lobbyists, federal judges, foreign interests with treaties to foist upon America and, of course Senators themselves...Senators who had a hand in shaping the Amendment and voted for it.

Everyone else in America was a loser in regard to the 17th and especially those who understood that the US is a Republic...not a democracy. Further, the Constitution guarantees to every state a Republican form of government. The 17th Amendment struck right at the heart of the form of government set up by the framers of the Constitution.

So Petron, are you arguing for or against the 17th Amendment?

posted February 13, 2005 12:51 PM            

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It should also be noted that Senators, once under the control of state legislatures, to work for and to the benefit of the states and their people, are now under no one's control whatsoever...except for the special interests who lay millions in campaign money in their palms.

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posted February 13, 2005 01:24 PM            

Thanks too for pointing me to the thread showing the Last Dollar Inn for sale.
I am a Realtor, as you said.

The actual numbers on the property are pretty favorable...if the area is a hot tourist spot. Most institutional lenders will not make loans on commercial property with less than 20% down payment.

On the basis of mortgage payments, 80% financing, exclusive of taxes and insurance, exclusive of other expenses, the break-even point for room rent is just under $25 per night, per room at full occupancy X 365.

posted February 13, 2005 01:47 PM            

Certainly the so called new campaign finance law was a total obscenity, with individuals like Soros plunking down something like $24 Million to buy his boy Kerry the Presidency...along with some other fat cats...probably on both sides.

Laying aside the issue of campaign finance law for the moment.

Under the law and Constitutionally as well.

Corporations are considered persons
Corporations have rights
political activity, including contributing to political campaigns and issues are considered speech

Therefore, corporations cannot be singled out and restrained from doing what individuals may do under the laws, without violating their rights to due process and equal protection under the laws.

Existing rights by broadcasters do not include any provisions for taking property from them, without just compensation and that right is Constitutionally protected..whether they be individuals or corporations. So, whether the federal government could require them to set aside broadcast time for political ads..without compensation is a legal issue that they would take to courts...and probably win.

The issue of government financed campaigns has a built in bias..a bias against all who are not campaigning as either a democrat or republican. Anyone who is neither democrat or republican is not considered a "serious" candidate. Could the federal treasury finance...at the same level...all candidates who wished to run for federal offices...House, Senate and President? If not, anyone who was denied equal amounts of money to finance their campaign could sue..and should win in court...equal rights under the law.