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jwhop
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posted March 10, 2005 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My premise that the American press along with the majority of far left democrats in and out of Congress are anti-America and anti-American was developed over years of observation of what they say and what they do.

I've had reinforcement for that premise from various sources, including the editor of Slate Magazine who stated in an editorial that he and his friends were pulling for an American defeat in Iraq. He went on to say he..at least had repented. I doubt that.

American victories...on the battlefield, in foreign affairs and economically are defeats for the far left radical democrats and the ideological leftist press. They have been pulling for America's defeat and failure in order to advance their own political and ideological agendas. In the case of the press, they just don't generally report good news coming out of foreign affairs, the war or the economy. Lucky for them I'm not King because they would be flung out of America so hard they wouldn't bounce until they hit the far shores of Europe.

This is a story about the corruption in the thought processes of radical democrats. A victory for America is a defeat for the ideology of radical leftist democrats....which is most of them.

Don't hold your breath waiting for the NY Times to report these outrageous remarks by a former Clintonista.

Jon Stewart smells it, too

The Democratic dominoes clearly are beginning to fall when Jon Stewart, the host of "The Daily Show," says, "I haven't seen results like this ever in [the Middle East]." As anyone who watches the Comedy Central "news" show knows, Mr. Stewart isn't a serious political pundit, but he is unabashedly liberal both on and off air. And since he commands a fairly large audience of mostly younger adults, he is perhaps as much an indicator of the liberal mindset as the New York Times.

His comments came during a Tuesday night interview with former Clinton aide Nancy Soderberg, who was promoting her new book, "The Superpower Myth: The Use and Misuse of American Might." Unfortunately for Mrs. Soderberg, the host spent the entire interview essentially undermining the very thesis of her book, which, as far as we can tell, criticizes the Bush doctrine of transforming the Middle East.

As a microcosm of the Democrats' dilemma, the interview proved enlightening. One such moment came when Mrs. Soderberg said, "[A]s a Democrat, you don't want anything nice to happen to the Republicans, and you don't want them to have progress. But as an American, you hope good things would happen." To which Mr. Stewart replied, "Do you think that the people of Lebanon would have had the courage of their conviction, having not seen -- not only the invasion but the election which followed [in Iraq]? It's almost as though that the Iraqi election has emboldened this crazy -- something's going on over there. I'm smelling something."

Mr. Stewart should be applauded for his intellectual honesty, as well as his obvious pride in America's accomplishments. Mrs. Soderberg, however, couldn't be deterred from her rank partisanship. Here's one of her more odious comments: "Well, there's still Iran and North Korea, don't forget. There's still hope for the rest of us ... There's always hope that this might not work." Mr. Stewart is funny -- it's his job. Mrs. Soderberg is not, which is why there's no other way to parse this other than as a desire to see America defeated for political gain -- and perhaps book sales.

Mr. Stewart is indeed "smelling something." He's smelling the birth of democracy in the Middle East. Regrettably, too many Democrats refuse to stop and smell the sweet scent of freedom. http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20050302-094959-9867r.htm http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/3/5/65606.shtml

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pidaua
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posted March 10, 2005 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great Article jwhop!!!!

It reminds me of a time a few years back. There was a Democrat and a Republican politican on one of the local Wash DC stations.. A heated debate ensued and the commentator says to the Dem.."But your constituents want such and such...and your Republican opponent states you are bound to go by what your population desires".

For some reason the Dem got all worked up..and yelled 'That's right..A Republican Does what the people wants....BUT WE KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR THE PEOPLE!!"

Basically..I will look out for what I think is your best interest, even if a majority wants A, I will do B because it is MY wish for you.

LMAO...but it is true..and we see it everyday in politics.

If I hear Nancy Polosi decry the war efforts any longer I will just puke. In ever win, she finds a fault 'Well yes the Iraqi's got to vote, but I have a source that said one goat farmer couldn't make it to the polling place..so ALL is lost and it is Bush's fault"

Crazy people LOL

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miss_apples
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posted March 11, 2005 11:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love John Stewart and watch The Daily Show all the time. He picks on both sides of the political spectrum which is what I like most about him. However I wonder if he does that just for ratings. I mean, he cant just alienate a whole group of people, its not good for ratings.

Anyways, Im a moderate who doesnt really support either party. However my mom is a democrat even though she is also pretty moderate so I guess I was raised a democrat. However it kind of saddens me that the far lefties throw away all faith in our country just because they dont like who is President. I mean...your not always going to like who is voted in office. I mean, they will compare Bush supporters to Nazis and Southern slave owners. Ive heard people say that Bush is an evil reptilian serpent, and they "hate" him so much even though they dont know him and have never met him personally. Its really sad.

Heres one of the many great things about our country...for both right and left wingers. If you dont like who is president, you will get a chance to vote for someone else. We get a new president possibly every 4 years and for sure every 8 years.

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proxieme
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posted March 11, 2005 02:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just to clarify my lack of posting on this thread and on a number of others:

I can safely say that I usually disagree with you, jwhop, but if I (or others) attempt conversation on the given matter at hand it usually ends-up being a series of "talking ats" rather than anything constructive. That doesn't only apply to you. There are a number of people who have too thorough a case of the galloping TBs (myself included on some subjects) to participate in an actual give and take rather than competing sermons.

That's really not a knock against you - you seem like a nice enough person, and, heck, I like pid - nor is it against anyone else here; I've just grown weary of intractable debates.

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Randall
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posted March 12, 2005 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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jwhop
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posted March 12, 2005 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are so right Pid. One who disagrees with the radical left is stupid, ignorant, misinformed, misguided, perverse or fascist. So, why not let them run things? After all, they're morally, intellectually and spiritually superior...in their own minds

On the other hand, strip away all the rhetoric, flim-flam, misdirection and outright lies from what they say their positions are and what's left is the very definition of treason. As with Clintonista Nancy Soderberg , Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, Carl Levin, Ward Churchill and others of the same ilk who have and still are pulling for America's defeat.

Believe it or not miss_apples, I have a number of former Democrat friends. Not former as in former friends but former Democrats. They are still friends but no longer democrats. As Pid said, the current crop of far left radicals that constitute the democrat party make them want to throw up.

We seem to be at a political divide Proxie.

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jwhop
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posted March 13, 2005 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, let me add petty and childish to the accomplishments of the radical left.

Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:55 p.m. EST
Inn Bans Bush-Voting Guests

An Oregon inn that offers what it calls "nature friendly lodging" has banned guests who voted for President Bush.

"No Bush Voters," the Web site for Ocean Haven demands, explaining that the policy is a result of the president's "environmentally destructive policies [such as] nonparticipation in Kyoto Treaty, The Clear Skies Act, [and his] continuation of naval sonar in marine mammal habitats."

Although Oregon Haven management boasts, "WE WELCOME DIVERSITY," it maintains that the no-Bush-backer rule is part of the resort's commitment to "limiting human impact on nature."
Also banned at Ocean Haven: pets, phones, TVs and "Hummers" [no other SUVs are mentioned].

A spokeswoman for Ocean Haven confirmed the Bush-backer-ban to Fox News, saying the policy has generated a lot of response.

Democrats are mostly freaked out and embarrassed by the Bush ban, she explained, while Republican voters are proud.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/3/13/125757.shtml

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LibraSparkle
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posted March 29, 2005 01:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw that episode. Good stuff. I Jon Stewart. I've loved him since his Mtv days.

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"Inn Bans Bush-Voting Guests"

Can you do that? Isn't that some form of discrimination?

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QueenofSheeba
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posted March 29, 2005 12:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear god you're self-righteous, jwhop. And radical, and severely detached from reality. If Republicans know what the people want, why are they running the country into the ground fiscally?

Oh yes. The American people like deficits.

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jwhop
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posted March 29, 2005 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Need I point out to the oxygen starved brains of the radical left that Republicans control both houses of Congress and the White House? Need I pile it on and point out that Republicans control the majority of executive state mansions and the majority of state legislatures? Need I point out that Bush won 2500 of the 3000 counties in America in the Presidential election

If I were not a compassionate conservative, I would go further and point out to the illiberal radical liberals that it is they and not conservatives who are totally out of touch with the American people...not to mention being out of touch with reality.

LS...sure, it's discrimination to bar Bush voters from a business open to the general public. It's also discrimination to bar those with Hummers but I doubt any conservatives will take them to court. We have very strong opinions about the rights to property and generally leave those with an ownership position in property alone..to do as they see fit...unlike the hard radical left.


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QueenofSheeba
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posted March 30, 2005 03:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you add up the voting totals for the House and the Senate, the total number of Democrats is there because of several million more votes than the total number of Republicans. The Democrats actually have a voter majority-

congratulations, jwhop, your party has successfully jerrymandered it's way into power. Truly representative of the people!

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QueenofSheeba
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posted April 02, 2005 01:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So take that.

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LibraSparkle
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posted April 02, 2005 02:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah!

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jwhop
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posted April 02, 2005 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I assume you aren't just making that up Queen but I would remind you that Democrats are down in representation by 900,000 people in the House alone. 232-202, which equates to 30 house members representing 30,000 each.

So, If someone has done the tabulations for the entire vote of each house district election and each Senate seat election, that would be a lot of work. But I would enjoy seeing it.

Oh, you didn't forget that Bush won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes...did you?


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QueenofSheeba
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posted April 03, 2005 03:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Poor man. He still thinks each Cogressman has 30,000 constituents. That was so 1800, back when the American population was about 13 m.

The math was done by The New Yorker, which any reasonable person would agree can get it's math right.

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jwhop
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posted April 03, 2005 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually Queen, I am a reasonable person, a reasonable person who asks for verification when a left leaning publication is involved. Experience is such a great teacher...so, do you have a link?

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Eleanore
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posted April 04, 2005 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Voter majority may be all that counts in a democracy but it's certainly not all that counts in the U.S. ... nor was it ever intended to be.

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QueenofSheeba
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posted April 04, 2005 12:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course not, Eleanore. That's why they wrote the Senate in. But the fact remains that the Republicans do not have a majority of the people behind them in Congress.

Unfortunately, jwhop, The New Yorker is a print publication. I'm afraid a link isn't available.

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