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jwhop
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posted April 25, 2005 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One wonders how far down the road to irreversible mental disease one must be to believe anything coming out of MoveOn.org?

Funded by George Soros, a convicted inside trader, the same inside trader who attempted and almost succeeded in bringing down the Bank of England with all the chaos that would have created in the supply of virtually everything bought and sold in Britain.
http://www.thestreet.com/comment/openbook/1041598.html

Soros is a Marxist who is attempting to bring about a one world Marxist government. The US should seize Soros, strip him of his US citizenship and ship his sorry @ss off our fair shores...immediately.

In the meantime, those who believe a word spoken or written by Soros collaborators like MoveOn.org should get some psychiatric help.

MoveOn: GOP Wants to Abolish Your Rights
by Fr. Mike Reilly
Monday, April 25, 2005


In their latest conspiracy theory, the left-wing extremists at MoveOn are claiming that the "Republican leadership" plans to abolish the 40 hour work week, eliminate the right to privacy, and repeal laws protecting basic environmental rights.

Working through its political action committee, MoveOnPAC, the group has issued a report headlined "8 Days to Save the Courts" - but the document offers little factual evidence, no documented proof, and no specific ways in which these basic human rights will be thrown by the wayside.

Instead, MoveOn insists that Republicans will "break the rules of Senate" by seizing absolute power over judicial appointments, which will lead to the abolition of the aforementioned rights.
The left-wingers also claim that judicial nominee Janice Brown, who will be the first judge "forced upon the D.C. court of appeals," is a leading advocate in the civil rights rollback. However, as with the group's other claims, the charges against Ms. Brown seem to be short on evidence.

Still, despite the flimsy arguments, MoveOn says its campaign has generated tens of thousands of letters and phone calls to Washington in a bid to halt the so-called GOP power grab.

Joseph Trunzo contributed to this report.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/4/25/105828.shtml

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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Ya never know.

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yea what a scumbag....the guy who shelled out big bucks to buy dubyas failed oil company in order to purchase political influence.....and heavy investor in the carlyle group.....who would trust him or any1 connected to him?

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George Soros: Prophet of an "Open Society"
Karen Talbot www.globalresearch.ca 4 July 2003
The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/TAL307A.html

George Soros: “The billionaire trader has become eastern Europe’s uncrowned king and the prophet of “the open society”. But open to what? by Neil Clark, New Statesman, June 2, 2003

A review by Karen Talbot

George Soros, is known as a Hungarian émigré philanthropist, a proponent of human rights and the “open society,” and, just incidentally, a financier ---one of the richest men in the world. Soros recently criticized George W. Bush saying in an article in the Financial Times of London that his administration’s Iraq policies were “fundamentally wrong” and that they are premised on the “false ideology that U.S. might gave it the right to impose its will on the world.” Many of us in the peace movement would say: “he got that right!” We might be inclined to praise him and to believe that this confirms that he really is a “do-gooder”—an image, by the way, that he carefully cultivates, especially through various NGOs. In fact numerous non-profit organizations have received funds from his foundation because they have bought into that perception.

But let’s take a closer look to see what is motivating Soros. Neil Clark, writing in an incisive article the New Statesman (June 2, 2003), points out that Soros “made billions out of the Eastern currency crash of 1997,” and that he was fined last year “for insider trading by a court in France.” In fact currency speculation is his modus operandi and if this contradicts his pronouncements against “market fundamentalism” and in favor of “civil society, ” well, so be it. In fact, Clark reported that when queried about the turmoil his speculation caused to Far Eastern economies in 1997, Soros replied: “As a market participant, I don’t need to be concerned with the consequences of my actions.”

But all of this is just the tip of the iceberg. What of the NGOs Soros established and finances? Who are the other leaders of these groups? Clark informs us that at Human Rights Watch, for example, there is Morton Abramowitz, U.S. assistant secretary of state for intelligence and research from 1985-1989` and now a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations; Warren Zimmerman former ambassador “whose spell in Yugoslavia coincided with the break up of that country”; and Paul Goble, director of communications “at the CIA-created Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (which Soros also funds).”

According to Clark, Soros’ International Crisis Group “boasts such ‘independent’ luminaries as the former national security advisers Zbigniew Brzezinki and Richard Allen, as well as General Wesley Clark, once NATO supreme allied commander for Europe. The group’s vice-chairman is the former congressman Stephen Solarz, once described as ‘the Israel lobby’s chief legislative tactician on Capitol Hill’ and a signatory, along with the likes of Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz, to a notorious letter to President Clinton in 1998 calling for a ‘comprehensive political and military strategy for brining down Saddam and his regime’.”

So much for Soros’ opposition to Bush’s Iraq policies.

There’s more! Who are Soros’s business partners at the Carlyle Group---one of the world’s largest private equity funds, which makes most of this profit from defense contracts? They include the former secretary of state James Baker and Frank Carlucci, former defense secretary, George Bush, Sr, and “until recently, the estranged relatives of Osama BinLaden.” Soros has invested more than $100 million in Carlyle, Clark tells us.

He also points out that “Soros may not, as sometimes suggested, be a fully paid-up CIA agent. But that his corporations and NGOS are closely wrapped up in U.S. expansionism cannot seriously be doubted.”

This brings us back to the question; “why has Soros lambasted Bush?” The answer lies in understanding that, more than ever, within the Wall Street power elite there may be differences in tactics but seldom are there significant differences in the end goal---opening the way for the maximization of corporate profits everywhere around the world. Today, there is basically a oneness of purpose in promoting U.S. imperial dominance, and in the process, attempting to solve a deepening global economic crisis by controlling diminishing petroleum and energy resources.

How does this play out where Soros is concerned? As Clark points out, “Soros is angry not at Bush’s aims---of expanding Pax Americana and making the world safe for global capitalists like himself—but with the crass and blundering way Bush is going about it. By making U.S. ambitions so clear, the Bush gang has committed the cardinal sin of giving the game away. For years, Soros and his NGOs have gone about their work extending the boundaries of the ‘free world’ so skillfully that hardly anyone noticed. Now a Texan redneck and a gang of overzealous neo-cons have blown it”

Soros’ way is to use a few billion dollars, some NGOs and a “nod and wink from the U.S. State department” to bring down foreign governments that are “bad for business” to seize a nation’s assets, and even get thanked for your ‘benevolence,’” according to Clark. This method has worked for Soros and his cohorts.

Take the collapse of the Soviet Union, for example. Clark points out that “Soros’ role was crucial: “From 1979, he distributed $3 million a year to dissidents including Poland’s solidarity movement, Charter 77 in Czechoslovakia and Andrei Sakharov in the Soviet Union. In 1984, he founded his first Open Society Institute in Hungary and pumped millions of dollars into opposition movements and independent media. Ostensibly aimed at building up a ‘civil society”, these initiatives were designed to weaken the existing political structures and pave the way for eastern Europe’s eventual exploitation by global capital. Soros now claims with characteristic immodesty, that he was responsible for the “Americanization” of eastern Europe.”

More recently, there is the case of Yugoslavia. As Clark puts it:

“TheYugoslavs remained stubbornly resistant and repeatedly returned Slobodan Milosevic’s reformed Socialist Party to government. Soros was equal to the challenge. From 1991, his Open Society Institute channeled more than $100 million to the coffers of the anti-Milosevic opposition, funding political parties, publishing houses and “independent” media such as Radio B92, the plucky little student radio station of western mythology, which was in reality bankrolled b one of the world’s richest men on behalf of the world’s most powerful nation. With Slobo finally toppled in 2000 in a coup d’etat financed, planned and executed in Washington all that was left was to cart the ex Yugoslav leader to the Hague tribunal, co-financed by Soros along with other custodians of human rights, Time Warner Corporation and Disney. He faced charges of crimes against humanity, war crimes and genocide, based in the main on the largely anecdotal evidence of (you guessed it) Human Rights Watch.”

Clark points out that “since the fall of Milosevic, Serbia, under the auspices of Soros- backed “reformers”, has become less, not more, free. The recently lifted state of emergency saw more than 4,000 people arrested, many of them without charge, political parties threatened with bans, and critical newspapers closed down” This has been so blatant that it was condemned by the UN Commission on Human Rights and the British Helsinki Group

“Soros has made money in every country he has helped to prise ‘open’. In Kosovo, for example, he has invested $50 million in an attempt to gain control of the Trepca mine complex, where there are vast reserves of gold, silver, lead and other minerals estimated to be worth in the region of $5 billion. He thus copied a pattern he has deployed to great effect over the whole of eastern Europe of advocating ‘shocking therapy’ and ‘economic reform’, then swooping in with his associate to buy valuable state assets at knock-down prices,” according to Clark.*

In Hungary, Soros is the benefactor of the Free Democrats party “which has pursued the classic Soros agenda of privatization and economic liberalization---leading to a widening gap between rich and poor,” says Clark.

“The Soros strategy for extending Pax Americana differs from the Bush model, particularly in its subtlety. But it is just as ambitious and just as deadly,” Clark concludes.

Of course, in the case of Yugoslavia, ultimately the Soros approach was not enough so the overwhelming might of the U.S. military was brought into play.*

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/TAL307A.html

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jwhop
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posted April 30, 2005 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know Petron, we've already discussed the fact that both Bush Sr. and W were gone from the Caryle Group before the huge profits from the Saudi connection.

We've also discussed the fact W presided over the cancellation on the Challenger project...a Caryle Group investment.

We've also discussed the fact it IS the Bush administration which is presiding over the prosecution of the Wall Street gyp artists...putting them in jail. That's history, past and present...because it's still ongoing.

Your attempt to connect W with George Soros is pathetic...mainly because Soros backed John Kerry. That's a fact that you can't spin.

Nor can you spin the fact Kerry is the very Constitutional definition of a traitor to the United States. For that fact alone, Soros, who is not a natural born citizen of the US should be stripped of his citizenship and booted forcefully from the US.

I know you have an affinity for conspiracy theories Petron, as do others. Everything from W being personally involved and having prior awareness of the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon to the CIA being involved in brainwashing/mind control over women into becoming sex slaves.

I believe in feeding the beast until it explodes from it's own gluttony. In that vein, here's another wide ranging conspiracy theory certain to titillate conspiracy theorist everywhere.

EX-PRESIDENT GEORGE H.W. BUSH
ORDERED THE MURDER OF ROSS PEROT
During the 1992 Presidential Election.
News Release
Nov. 21, 2002
Stew Webb

BODY COUNT
MINUS ONE-ROSS PEROT
"POPPY GEORGE"
The "Bush Crime Family" King-pin George H.W. Bush ("King George" also known as "Poppy George" also known as "The New World Order PIG") has always though he was above the Laws of the United States of America.

Where did the name "Poppy George" come from?
Could it be poppy seeds? Or could it be the 150 mgs of prozad he takes daily?

I do not think it is the Fifth of Jack Danials he drinks daily.

Maybe it was the kids, gave him this nickname?

BUDSTERS & MPB's ???

George Bush Sr. refers to the American People as "Budsters" the broke, useless and depressed.

Bush refers to himself as "MPB's" money, power, and brains.

The enclosed document proves it, he thinks he is above the Law.....
http://www.stewwebb.com/Murder%20Bush%20orders%20Ross%20Perot's%20Duri ng%201992%20Pres.%20Elections.html

Enjoy

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Published on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 in the Boston Herald
Bush Advisers Cashed in on Saudi Gravy Train
by Jonathan Wells, Jack Meyers and Maggie Mulvihill

Many of the same American corporate executives who have reaped millions of dollars from arms and oil deals with the Saudi monarchy have served or currently serve at the highest levels of U.S. government, public records show.

Those lucrative financial relationships call into question the ability of America's political elite to make tough foreign policy decisions about the kingdom that produced Osama bin Laden and is perhaps the biggest incubator for anti-Western Islamic terrorists.

Nowhere is the revolving U.S.-Saudi money wheel more evident than within President Bush's own coterie of foreign policy advisers, starting with the president's father, George H.W. Bush.

At the same time that the elder Bush counsels his son on the ongoing war on terrorism, the former president remains a senior adviser to the Washington D.C.-based Carlyle Group. That influential investment bank has deep connections to the Saudi royal family as well as financial interests in U.S. defense firms hired by the kingdom to equip and train the Saudi military.

Last year, former President Bush visited Saudi Arabia's King Fahd bin Abdul Aziz Al-Saud, but a Carlyle spokesman said the two did not discuss Carlyle business as previously reported. The elder Bush is reportedly paid between $80,000 and $100,000 for each Carlyle speech he makes. The company declined comment on the former president's pay.

The Carlyle Group has also served as a paid adviser to the Saudi monarchy on the so-called ``Economic Offset Program,'' an arrangement that effectively requires U.S. arms manufacturers selling weapons to Saudi Arabia to give back a portion of their revenues in the form of contracts to Saudi businesses, most of whom are connected to the royal family. A company spokesman said yesterday that arrangement was ended ``a few months ago,'' but said he did not know whether it was terminated before or after the Sept. 11 attacks.

A spokesman for former President Bush, reached yesterday, had no immediate comment on his work for the Carlyle Group.

These intricate personal and financial links have led to virtual silence in the administration on Saudi Arabia's failings in dealing with terrorists like bin Laden, said Charles Lewis, executive director of the Center for Public Integrity, a Washington, D.C.-based government watchdog group.

``It's good old fashioned `I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine.' You have former U.S. officials, former presidents, aides to the current president, a long line of people who are tight with the Saudis, people who are the pillars of American society and officialdom,'' said Lewis.

``So for that and other reasons no one wants to alienate the Saudis, and we are willing to basically ignore inconvenient truths that might otherwise cause our blood to boil. We basically look away,'' he said. ``Folks don't like to stop the gravy train.''

Some foreign policy observers said as long as American power brokers in lucrative business deals with the Saudis do not simultaneously craft U.S. foreign policy, there is no conflict of interest.

``To have Bush Sr. on the board of Carlyle is not necessarily a significant problem because Carlyle has interests all over the world,'' said Vincent Cannistraro, a former counter-intelligence chief for the Central Intelligence Agency.

Companies regularly entice powerful political figures to work for them, he said.

``It's kind of business as usual. Where it really affects things is when someone with a financial interest in a company also has a policy position in the administration,'' Cannistraro said.

Insiders trading

A significant portion of the millions of dollars U.S. companies and their politically influential executives have earned in deals with the Saudis has been through military contracts.

The Carlyle Group had a major stake in the large defense contractor B.D.M., which has multimillion-dollar contracts through its subsidiaries to train and manage the Saudi National Guard and the Saudi air force, U.S. Department of Defense records show. In 1998, Carlyle sold its controlling interest in B.D.M. to defense giant TRW International.

Meanwhile, the boards of directors of the Carlyle Group, B.D.M. and TRW are all stocked with high-level Republican policy makers.

Frank C. Carlucci, a former secretary of defense under President Reagan, was chairman of B.D.M. for most of the 1990s. Carlucci, who also served as Reagan's national security adviser and a deputy director of the CIA, now heads the Carlyle Group.

Along with former President Bush, other officials from past Republican administrations now at the Carlyle Group include: former Secretary of State James A. Baker III; ex-budget chief Richard Darman; and former Securities and Exchange Commission chairman Arthur Levitt.

President Bush is himself linked to the Carlyle group: He was a director of one of its subsidiaries, an airline food services company called Caterair, until 1994. Six years later, when Bush was governor of Texas, the board of directors of the Texas teachers' pension fund - some of whom were his appointees - voted to invest $100 million with the Carlyle Group.

The president of B.D.M. is Philip A. Odeen, a former high-level Pentagon official in the Nixon administration. During the Clinton administration, Odeen chaired the Pentagon task force that planned the restructuring of the U.S. military for the 21st century. Currently, he is the vice-chair of the Defense Science Board, which advises the Pentagon on emerging threats.

TRW, the new owner of B.D.M., has its own noteworthy board members, including former CIA director Robert M. Gates and Michael H. Armacost, who served as undersecretary of state under President Reagan and as ambassador to Japan for former President Bush.

Big Saudi money also makes its way back to Texas and the Bush family. The family of Saudi Arabia's longtime U.S. ambassador, Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, gave $1 million to the Bush Presidential Library in College Station, Texas.

The revolving door

Another example of the complex web connecting U.S. and Saudi powerbrokers is Dick Cheney, who moved from the Pentagon to the international oil business and back as vice president last year.

After serving as the elder Bush's secretary of defense, Cheney was hired to run oil-services giant Halliburton Co., where he worked until he resigned last year to campaign with the younger Bush. In 2000, his last year with Halliburton, Cheney received $34 million when he cashed out from the company.

Not surprisingly, Halliburton's links to Cheney and other Washington power brokers appear to have helped the company's business prospects in the Middle East.

Just last month, Halliburton was awarded a $140 million contract to develop an oil field in Saudi Arabia by the kingdom's state-owned petroleum firm, Saudi Aramco, and a Halliburton subsidiary, Kellogg Brown & Root, along with two Japanese firms, was hired by the Saudis to build a $40 million ethylene plant.

Cheney isn't the only member of President Bush's inner circle whose work for firms connected to the Saudis has paid big dividends.

The current national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, is a former longtime member of the board of directors of another giant oil conglomerate with business in the Saudi desert, Chevron, which merged with Texaco this year. Rice even has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

Substantial profits received by U.S. leaders in private sector deals with the Saudis have helped to squelch criticism of the royal family's refusal to address the role its country has played in fueling Islamic terrorism, Lewis said.

``There's a disconnect there,'' Lewis said. ``I'm fascinated that we don't lay this at Saudi Arabia's doorstep. But the chances to cash in and the amount you can cash in for are starting to become absolutely astronomical. Who wants to look like the Boy Scout complaining about it and potentially jeopardize their own post-employment prospects?''

Former advisers to the president's father also hold key positions with U.S. firms which have teamed up with the Saudis on major oil deals.

Former Bush Secretary of the Treasury Nicholas Brady and a former Bush assistant, Edith E. Holiday, are both on the board of directors of Amerada Hess, an American petroleum firm currently teaming up with several powerful Saudi families to develop oil fields in Azerbaijan.

Another company that has done business with wealthy Saudis is international energy firm Frontera Resources Corp. based in Houston. Until recently, Frontera was a 30 percent investor in a $900 million project to develop oilfields in Azerbajian. Also investing in the project were Azerbaijan's state-run oil company and Delta-Hess, a joint-venture created by the Saudis' Delta Oil and Amerada Hess.

Randy Theilig, a Frontera spokesman, said the company relinquished its interest in the project in July because it was no longer ``economically viable,'' and has no current business dealings with the Saudis or in Azerbajian.

Members of Frontera's board of advisers, which includes former CIA director John Deutch and former Secretary of the Treasury and U.S. Sen. Lloyd Bentsen, have been active financial supporters of the Democratic Party.

Shining a bright light on the web of financial connections between the power elite in the U.S. and Saudi Arabia is critical, Middle Eastern foreign policy experts said.

``I think the fact that they have these connections makes it important for this information to be made public,'' said Henry Siegman, a senior fellow on the Middle East at the Council on Foreign Relations.

Larry Noble, executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics in Washington, D.C., a non-partisan group that examines money and politics, said the Bush-Carlyle connection is a concern.

``It is well known that the father is a close adviser to his son and therefore it does raise concerns,'' Noble said ``It's not necessarily that the father has been compromised, but the danger is that it leads people to question George W. Bush. The public has a right to feel their leaders are making independent judgments without the influence of private interests.''

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how romantic!!

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posted May 01, 2005 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, gimmi a little kiss...huh Prince!

Unger strike
Criag Unger is the author of “House of Bush, House of Saud”, which Michael Moore based a good percentage of his movie Fahrenheit 9/11 on. All of the parts about Bush’s relatioship with the Saudis *cue menacing music* were attributed to Unger’s book.

But now, when there seems to be a similar developing relationship between The Clinton’s and the Saudis, Unger isn’t so quick to sound the alarm. He asserts in this article that the millions of dollars recently dontaed by the Saudis and other Arabs is just a case of them “keeping their options open”.

I wonder what kind of double standard explainations we’ll see from Moore and the lefties if Hillary Clinton does win in 2008?

Saudis, Arabs Funneled Millions to President Clinton’s Library
BY JOSH GERSTEIN - Staff Reporter of the Sun
November 22, 2004

LITTLE ROCK, ARK. - President Clinton’s new $165 million library here was funded in part by gifts of $1 million or more each from the Saudi royal family and three Saudi businessmen.

The governments of Dubai, Kuwait, and Qatar and the deputy prime minister of Lebanon all also appear to have donated $1 million or more for the archive and museum that opened last week.

Democrats spent much of the presidential campaign this year accusing President Bush of improperly close ties to Saudi Arabia. The case was made in Michael Moore’s film “Fahrenheit 9/11,” in a bestselling book by Craig Unger titled “House of Bush, House of Saud,” and by the Democratic presidential candidate, Senator Kerry."This administration delayed pressuring the Saudis,” Mr. Kerry said on October 20. “I will insist that the Saudis crack down on charities that funnel funds to terrorists… and on anti-American and anti-Israel hate speech."The Media Fund, a Democratic group whose president is a former Clinton White House aide, Harold Ickes, spent millions airing television commercials in swing states with scripts such as, “The Saudi royal family...wealthy...powerful...corrupt. And close Bush family friends.”

Perhaps as a result, the Saudi donations to the Clinton library are raising some eyebrows. Mr. Unger said he suspects that the Saudi support may have something to do with a possible presidential bid by Senator Clinton in 2008.

“They want to keep their options open no matter who’s in power and whether that’s four years from now or whatever,” the author said. “Just a few million is nothing to them to keep their options open."
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Funny, with Moore’s hyper-sensitivity to the relationships between the US President and the Saudi Royals, you’d think he’s have this news plastered all over his website. I looked, and as you guessed, not a peep out of Moore about it. Instead, they decided to post a picture of Bush in a Chilean poncho. I guess the picture meant to belittle Bush, but to me it looks like he’s showing some of the respect for a foreign culture that the left has been insisting he doesn’t possess.

http://moorewatch.com/index.php/weblog/comments/unger_strike/P50/

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Mr. Unger said he suspects that the Saudi support may have something to do with a possible presidential bid by Senator Clinton in 2008.


duh.....

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Oh well, when the Saudis give money to Bush Sr for his library, the radical leftist morons say it's the essence of evil, proof of a deep dark conspiracy, collusion, graft and corruption.

When those same Saudis give money to Clinton, there's nothing wrong with that...they're just keeping their options open.

One must be schizo to track the reasoning of the loons of the radical left....or simply acknowledge they are the most colossal liars on the planet.

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i'm not the 1 denying reality jwhop

i posted about saudis giving to clintons library a long time ago.....

but the bush connections to saudi royalty far more extensive, and both bush jr and sr worked for carlyle while they were in business with saudi arabia and bin laden, just not during a short window when the largest contract was handed out, so that argument is simply more pointless factoid....

if i could find pictures of clinton strolling hand in hand thru a flower garden with abdullah i'd post them too....

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"I didn't know him," Soros replied. "He was supposed to bring in the Gulf connection. But it didn't come to anything. We were buying political influence. That was it. He was not much of a businessman." -george soros talking about harkens purchase of george bush jr.s failed company spectrum7

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here soros speaks out on behalf of his fellow michael moore critics........

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In response to a question from Harrisburg Patriot-News reporter Peter DeCoursey about fellow Bush-critic Moore, Soros criticized the filmmaker for resorting to inaccuracies “to mislead the American people.”

Soros emphatically stated, “I am not a fan of Michael Moore.”

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I wasn't suggesting you were denying the fact the Saudis contributed money for the Clinton Library Petron. I was commenting on the hypocrisy of leftists who attempt to make political hay out of the Saudi contributions to the Bush Library but don't see anything equally sinister in the donations for the Clinton Library.

Of course Michael Moore hurt the Soros led cause and so did MoveOn.org which Soros funded...among many other radical groups which bashed Bush and actually helped him win reelection.

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