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iAmThat
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posted July 27, 2005 09:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/321936.shtml


Is this True?

Update July 29 2005: I checked the NY times. This news is true.

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LibraSparkle
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posted July 27, 2005 10:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's what you get if you search Google News with 'Iran Gay Teens":
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=iran+gay+teens

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teaselbaby
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posted July 27, 2005 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teaselbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my goodness, that's despicable.

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BlueRoamer
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posted July 28, 2005 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whats really scary is that there are radical christian conservatives in THIS country who probably wish the US would do the same thing.

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nove731
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posted July 28, 2005 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Whats really scary is that there are radical christian conservatives in THIS country who probably wish the US would do the same thing.

Yeah...I don't imagine being hung would feel too great...

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jwhop
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posted July 28, 2005 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Whats really scary is that there are radical christian conservatives in THIS country who probably wish the US would do the same thing....BlueRoamer

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Yeah...I don't imagine being hung would feel too great...nove731

Well nove731, being from Antioch, TN...in the so called Bible Belt, a city with biblical reference as the first destination of the Apostle Paul to spread the Gospel..i.e., Antioch, a city in ancient Syria, you might be in a good position to comment on BlueRoamers' comment. Is BlueRoamers' comment infantile bombast or have you ever known any Christian(s) who advocated hanging gays?

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nove731
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posted July 28, 2005 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well nove731, being from Antioch, TN...in the so called Bible Belt, a city with biblical reference as the first destination of the Apostle Paul to spread the Gospel..i.e., Antioch, a city in ancient Syria, you might be in a good position to comment on BlueRoamers' comment. Is BlueRoamers' comment infantile bombast or have you ever known any Christian(s) who advocated hanging gays?

Eh, no. Not personally. The closest to it was a recommendation by an old classmate that gays should be sent to prison.

It was a general comment. In retrospect, I'm not quite sure why I quoted BlueRoamer. Probably just the idea of being hung is not too fun to entertain.

And, lol, Antioch is just a neighborhood of Nashville. I'm not really sure if it was named with Biblical references in mind. Possibly, but I don't really know.

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted July 28, 2005 04:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive meet a few christians who have suggested such things. Starting with my grandparrents.

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posted July 28, 2005 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps, Jwhop, my "infantile bombast" is based on real life experiences of people saying that I should die because I'm gay. Many Christian groups say that AIDS is gods punishment of homosexuals. I am not saying that all christians believe this, but I am saying is statements like these have the same intention behind them as hanging people for being gay: HATE, something which you Jwhop, judging by your constant need to incite anger and strife, understand and employ on a daily basis.

I'm sure you'd like to make a blanket statement that there are no Christians who want gays to die, but surely we both know this is a falsehood. There are many Christians who support gay rights, and there are many who believe quite the opposite.

Essentially, you are a white male republican from the south, you know nothing about what it means to be a minority or to have to struggle, yet you speak as if you know exactly what all of America thinks. You throw out terms like "radical leftist" because its easier for your puny brain to just put anyone who disagrees with you into the same category.

Let me put this in terms you that are easy to understand. You're a petty, small, rage filled man, who loves nothing better to incite anger from anyone who disagrees with you. You constantly use ad hominem tactics to belittle people, instead of actually coming up with logical arguements. Your mind and heart are so wrapped up in politics, and in you having the correct viewpoint, that you've completely lost the spirit if a bipartisan America. You've called me a radical leftist on many occasions, but frankly you don't know anything about my politics.

I'm actually quite economically conservative, not a super environmentalist, and something of an isolationist in foreign affairs. With the exception of social issues, I tend to align more with old school republicans, but you would never notice this. Why? Because your goal is to incite rage and anger in anyone that invalidates your beliefs.

Jwhop, your beliefs are not your ego, they are not you. I hope someday that you realize there's more to life than being right. You've got what you wanted, you made me angry, are you happy? Are you happy that people who were once my friends think I should be shot because I'm gay? Oh but these people don't exist, let me correct myself, it must have been a hallucination, much like your compassion and humility. Downplaying the prejudice that exists against homosexuals is basically the same as being prejudiced against them. Trying to sweep the issue under the carpet only makes it worse.

I suggest you stay on threads where the issues concern things that affect your life. Contrary to your beliefs, you do not own Global Unity. Now go ahead and engage in whatever awful, condescending, illogical statements you want, I'm not going to read them. If you're really so invested in politics, why dont you go out into the real world and do something about it instead of pointlessly bullying liberals all day on an ASTROLOGY message board.

Its ok Jwhop, I understand, people with your sort of beliefs are on their way out. They're dinosaurs, clinging to the last shreds of biblical tripe. Sorry to dissapoint you, but this country is moving forward, with our without your rotting idealogy.

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AcousticGod
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posted July 28, 2005 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm actually quite economically conservative, not a super environmentalist, and something of an isolationist in foreign affairs. With the exception of social issues, I tend to align more with old school republicans, but you would never notice this. Why? Because your goal is to incite rage and anger in anyone that invalidates your beliefs.

I'm like that too.

I also agree with your assessment of Christians.

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TINK
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posted July 28, 2005 08:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*sigh* "old school republicans". thanks for bringing them up, Blueroamer. I really miss them.

Jwhop, your heart is evident to me (even under all that bile ) but I've always wondered why you show such hate towards those with whom you simply disagree. Why waste the energy?

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jwhop
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posted July 28, 2005 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me put this to you this way BlueRoamer. You are an infantile bombastic blathermouth who constantly shoots off his mouth without a bit of proof. This is just one more case of a never ending stream of BS from you.

I have never so much as heard, in the press, on the radio, in person, in any literature, from any source, the suggestion by christians, christian organizations or anyone else connected to, in any way, a christian organization that gays should be hanged.

I did notice though that the terrorist regime in Iran, using the principles they say exist in their religion, did hang gays and have before. Yet your bile and bilge has been against Bush, who opposes them. Go figure.

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TINK
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posted July 28, 2005 09:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhop, I think you need a hug tonight. Splinter in your paw?

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nove731
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posted July 28, 2005 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have never so much as heard, in the press, on the radio, in person, in any literature, from any source, the suggestion by christians, christian organizations or anyone else connected to, in any way, a christian organization that gays should be hanged.

Hrm. Here you go: www.godhatesfags.com

That website was created by Reverend Fred Phelps. He held a protest against gays at Matthew Shepard's funeral, I believe.

He's happy that Sweden lost so many lives in the tsunami on December 26, 2004, because they support gay rights. He's also happy supports the people who set off the bombs in London.

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jwhop
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posted July 28, 2005 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a very simple proposition TINK. Those who can't take it, shouldn't dish it out. Simple

Don't make any bets about my heart TINK. There was a time when there could have been calm and reasoned discussion here...and I'm one who asked..several times for that alternative. However, I've seen some of the most outrageous accusations made here, against the president, the elections, his family, and the essence of his very being.

I never recall anyone accusing the very country, the United States of being so corrupt as to repress citizens of other nations..not before Acoustic, nor assert that Americans were also guilty of repression. There is a deliberative nature to the word repress which implies intent. Repression is not accidental.

Again, if someone can't take the fallout, don't make those kinds of lying hate filled inflammatory statements.

Accusing conservative Christians of wanting to hang gays is another hate filled inflammatory statement. I'm not even religious.

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jwhop
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posted July 28, 2005 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nove731

The specific allegation BlueRoamer made was that radical Christian conservatives...there is no such thing by the way...probably wanted to hang gays.

Did you find any such statements on that site? I don't read that stuff but I skimmed through and didn't see anything about hanging anyone.

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nove731
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posted July 28, 2005 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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nove731

The specific allegation BlueRoamer made was that radical Christian conservatives...there is no such thing by the way...probably wanted to hang gays.

Did you find any such statements on that site? I don't read that stuff but I skimmed through and didn't see anything about hanging anyone.


Hanging specifically? No. But I've just skimmed the site myself. It makes me sick to read that hatred. I can't imagine why anyone would devote so much time to hating someone when his religion preaches love.

On a sidepoint, though, not to start any conflict, but I find it amusing how people like Fred Phelps would gladly quote Leviticus to make a case against homosexuality, but if he were to wear blended clothing and someone told him he was commiting an abomination (I believe that's one of the passages of Leviticus, anyway), he'd call them blasphemous, or some other such crap. You can't pick and chose, was my point, though. If you're going to site Leviticus as a source, then fine, but you have to embrace all of it, not just one passage.

They support terrorism to pro-gay cultures, such as Spain, Cananda, and Sweden, though. For some reason he also praises the terrorists for hitting London, but I'm not exactly sure why, just yet. I'll look. It seems along the same lines to me, but then again it's hard for me to gain an objective view on the topic, so I can understand how someone else would take it in a different light.

Hrm. There is an article in his directory after you click the yellow sign, that's entitled "All Nations Must Immediately Outlaw Sodomy (Homosexuality) & impose the death penalty!" but I'm not sure if they're correlated, or just two issues he supports, because everytime I click the link, my browser freezes up, and stops responding.

Hm. Perhaps you shall have better luck than I.
http://www.godhatesamerica.com/ghfmir/fliers/dec2002/Outlaw_Sodomy_12-3-2002.pdf

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TINK
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posted July 28, 2005 11:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
call me reckless but I'll still take that bet.

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nove731
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posted July 28, 2005 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Fred Phelps Wrote

Thank God for the bombing of London's subway today - July 7, 2005 - wherein dozens were killed and hundreds seriously injured. Wish it was many more.

"But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the Lord their God, nor receiveth correction; truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth." Jer. 7:28.
England: Island of the Sodomite Damned

Tony Blair and his ***** Barrister Wife

These two have let England to irreversible doom, pushing the fag agenda. It is now a crime to preach God's truth about fags in England. Blair wants to be president (Antichrist) of EU (European Union), whose laws also criminalize Gospel preaching.


Well, now I know why he's happy about London getting hit, anyway.

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Planet_Soul
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posted July 29, 2005 03:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If that is true (happy about London's attack), then that is really awful. How can anyone be happy about innocent people getting killed???????? Amazing how hatred blinds..... I'm very sad at the usage of such antihomosexual propaganda.

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alchemiest
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There's a very simple proposition TINK. Those who can't take it, shouldn't dish it out. Simple

Jwhop, you make all these hate-filled statements directed towards the 'left' and yet you can't take (what you presume to be) the same.

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The fate of these boys is truly regrettable and horrific. If only these religions could wake up and smell reality. All of these things have existed since before they were even founded, so really, they have no right to be bashing anything. ANyway, if you believe in a god, ultimately, it's between you and him/her, not between you and a man-made religion.
May they rest in peace

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted July 29, 2005 11:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well put BlueRoamer

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AcousticGod
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posted July 30, 2005 05:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said Alchemist!

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jwhop
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posted July 30, 2005 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alchemiest

Give it to me straight doctor, I can take it.

The thin skinned haters of the left who comment on peoples appearance, their spiritual state, their intelligence, their heart, their motives, people who denounce America, America's motives, it's citizens and their motives, who demonize conservatives, people who do all that expecting to get high five's, now they are the one's who can't take what they dish out.


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Petron
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posted July 30, 2005 05:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhop....you mean like calling michael moore a bloated odorous liar?

and commenting on peoples intelligence??youve got to be kidding....

and "demonizing conservatives"??

do you mean blanket judgements like calling socialists "evil"??

lol yup yer really 1 to talk......

every1 ....follow the master hater....


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