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Topic: Woodward--2008--Hillary vs Cheney
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2005 10:39 AM
Wednesday, Aug. 10, 2005 12:47 a.m. EDT Bob Woodward: It's Hillary vs. CheneyHillary Clinton will win the Democratic nomination for president in 2008 and her Republican opponent will be none other than Dick Cheney, according to Watergate journalist Bob Woodward. Speaking to a crowd in Aspen, Colo., on Tuesday, Woodward said there was a strong chance that President Bush would urge Cheney to seek the White House. "He would be 67 if he ran and was elected," said Woodward. "Reagan was 69. Nixon was 68. Republicans always like the old warhorse ... Both parties like to nominate vice presidents. "Cheney would do it, and I think it's highly likely." Woodward, who's now assistant managing editor of the Washington Post, disclosed the following tidbits to the gathering: When he interviewed George W. Bush for his book "Plan of Attack,” Bush answered 500 questions and was "very direct." He used words like "duty" and "zeal" to describe "liberating people." Woodward spoke of Bush's intense belief that what he is doing is right, the Aspen Times reports. "It was almost a mind trip on how he looks at things and what he values," said Woodward. The veteran journalist refrained from criticizing Bush. "If you go back into history, you'll find many instances of presidents making unpopular decisions," he said. "History teaches you that the most important trait a president can have is simply courage, and courage often means walking the road alone." About the Nixon presidency, Woodward said, "The real chill goes down your spine when you see the smallness of Richard Nixon," who too often used "the power of the presidency to settle a score." Nixon was a very intelligent president, however. "He understood that the hating is what had done him in." Woodward rejected the notion that a third party could be a threat to the Democrats and Republicans. He also rejected the belief that Supreme Court nominee John Roberts would help overturn abortion rights if he is confirmed for the court seat. Oddly, Woodward said nothing about Mark Felt, the former FBI assistant director nicknamed "Deep Throat," who was recently unmasked as Woodward's key anonymous source during his coverage of the Watergate scandal. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/8/10/124858.shtml IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2005 12:42 PM
more like bush will change our laws and serve a 3rd term. Oh Brother!IP: Logged |
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posted August 12, 2005 02:52 PM
I had envisioned his brother Jeb going for the nomination.IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2005 03:53 PM
not at all convinced that's going to happen. Environmental issues will take bush back home! he hates the elitist environment of the capitol and the beltway power structure. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2005 03:54 AM
" he hates the elitist environment of the capitol and the beltway power structure"More like, he doesn't understand whats going on around him. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2005 02:31 PM
Yeah, that's the left's favorite tactic...declaring Bush intellectually inferior. Wonder how that intellectually inferior specimen of humanity has kicked the leftist @sses through 2 presidential elections and managed to increase Senate and House seats on the Republican side at the same time...in both elections? You care to fire up your few remaining brain cells and hazard a guess BlueRoamer? Look on the bright side BlueRoamer, Bush still has almost 31/2 years to go before the next Republican President in sworn in. IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2005 04:20 PM
Call me crazy, but Jeb Bush doesn't sound like some kind of idiot that doesn't understand things going on in the world around him.I agree with you jwhop, it is just more of the leftest Mantra.. if you're either a Republican or, even moreso, if your last name is Bush, you must be an idiot. This is what I found on him from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_Bush#Early_years
Jeb Bush was born in Midland, Texas, where his father was running an oil drilling company. He has been known by his initials "JEB" since childhood.
When Bush was six years old, the family moved to Houston, Texas. He was a childhood athlete, enjoying baseball and tennis. He went to a public elementary school, but later transferred to a private school. When he was in eighth grade, his father won a seat in Congress and moved to Washington, DC. Bush stayed in Houston with another family to finish the school year, and spent most summers and holidays at the family estate, known as the Bush Compound. He then enrolled at Phillips Andover, a private boarding school in Massachusetts already attended by his brother George. Bush made the honor roll in his first semester. He has described himself in his time there as "a cynical little turd in a cynical little school". He has also admitted to smoking marijuana while a student. Friends recall him as disciplined and focused, neither drinking nor gambling during a trip to Las Vegas. He did, however, enjoy an Elvis Presley concert.[1] When Bush was seventeen, he went to León, Mexico, as part of his school's student exchange program. He spent his time there teaching English. While attending a motorcycle race, he met a local girl named Columba Garnica Gallo, whom he eventually married. Bush attended the University of Texas at Austin, where he graduated Phi Beta Kappa with a Bachelor's degree in Latin American Studies in 1973, taking only two and a half years to complete his work, and obtaining generally excellent grades. He registered for the draft, but the Vietnam War ended before his number came up. After his early graduation, Bush married the first and only woman he had ever dated, Columba Garnica Gallo, on February 23, 1974. Their three children, now grown, are George P. (recently married), John E. "Jeb", Jr. and Noelle. But I guess going to school, succeeding in business, marrying your early childhood sweetheart, making effective changes in education and in your state makes one a total imbicile. LMAO IP: Logged |
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posted August 27, 2005 08:24 AM
Every bush is a retard.
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posted August 27, 2005 02:15 PM
I dunno... those young girls seem like they may be a lot of fun to party with. I can't hate them for being born into a wicked family.I remember thinking during one of the debates during the election... "Man... Bushy's daughters are HOT! Poor Kerry's daughters." I'm still kickin' myself in the ass for voting for Kerry. Shoulda voted for Nader again. IP: Logged |
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posted August 27, 2005 03:21 PM
yea jeb's daughter parties alot too... hehehjeb strikes me as the only intelligent one of the bush bro's....thats what scares me about him!!!! IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 29, 2005 06:20 PM
"wicked"? Really, do you think that just because you don't like the Bush family they are considered "wicked". Strong term. Now, I totally expected a idiotic response like "they're retards" from MG..that is par for the course. IP: Logged |
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posted August 29, 2005 07:35 PM
I'll agree that Bush's daughters trump Kerry's, but I'll point out that Gore's daughters trump Bush's. (and no booze breath!)So what does that tell us?IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4415 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 29, 2005 09:28 PM
The scary thing is that I find a girl named Barbara Bush attractive. Wonder if her boyfriend feels weird about her name.IP: Logged |
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posted August 30, 2005 02:18 AM
Yes Pid. I know... We have to agree to disagree on this. I believe Bush is wicked... wicked from greed. It is not because I dislike him that I think he is wicked. I think his is wicked, therefore I dislike him. LOL, Tink. True that. What does that tell us? IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 30, 2005 03:15 PM
LS, are all these people equally as wicked as George Bush...or more so...because they're more wealthy than the President. Are they wicked because they're greedy?Ted Kennedy.......$45,000,000 John Rockefeller..$80,000,000 John Kerry, est...$1,500,000,000...his first wife was only worth about $300,000,000 Jane Harmon.......$150,000,000 George Bush.......$16,000,000 IP: Logged |
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posted August 30, 2005 04:02 PM
I don't know about LS, but I would be inclined to say that yes, they probably are distinctly on the wicked side. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 30, 2005 05:33 PM
So, you equate wealth with wickedness?IP: Logged |
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posted August 30, 2005 07:16 PM
I don't think it's that black and white. But you know ... camels and needles and such.I'm having deja vu. Have we had this conversation before? IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 30, 2005 07:37 PM
I hope we haven't had this conversation before TINK.So, if wealth doesn't necessarily equate to wickedness, what is the basis for your statement the people I listed "probably are distinctly on the wicked side?" IP: Logged |
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posted August 30, 2005 07:41 PM
I think we have. Russia?Do any of them strike you as particularly righteous? IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 30, 2005 07:49 PM
Hmmm, perhaps I just don't remember?They may be wicked in any number of ways but I don't equate wealth with wickedness, or greed and that was the context...wealth=greed, I got from what LS said. IP: Logged |
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posted August 30, 2005 07:51 PM
Possibly we could agree on this: wealth and power do not breed righteousness.IP: Logged |
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posted August 31, 2005 02:24 PM
Umm... about the nomination, however fascinating jwhop's proofs and TINK's logic may be...I see the Republican nomination as wide open in 2008, as is the Democratic one. Woodward is BSing. He's trying to create a stir. jwhop, I thought you were beyond these irritating media tricks. Cheney doesn't want to run for the Presidency. He considered it in the 90s and concluded he doesn't like the limelight. Plus he has his failing heart, a liability. There are lots more promising candidates to speculate over, such as Mitt Romney, Condi Rice, etc. and et al. This is reported to have happened on Russian talk radio, during Ms. Rice's recent Russian expedition. Host: Will you run for the Presidency in 2008? Condi: Yes. No no no no no no no. ------------------ Hello everybody! I used to be QueenofSheeba and then I was Apollo and now I am QueenofSheeba again (and I'm a guy in case you didn't know)! IP: Logged | |