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ozonefiller
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posted August 23, 2005 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Televangelist Calls Venezuelan President a 'Terrific Danger' to the United States


VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (Aug. 22) - Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson called on Monday for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, calling him a "terrific danger" to the United States.

Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition of America and a former presidential candidate, said on "The 700 Club" it was the United States' duty to stop Chavez from making Venezuela a "launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism."

Chavez has emerged as one of the most outspoken critics of President Bush, accusing the United States of conspiring to topple his government and possibly backing plots to assassinate him. U.S. officials have called the accusations ridiculous.

"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson said. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop."

Electronic pages and a message to a Robertson spokeswoman were not immediately returned Monday evening.

Venezuela is the fifth largest oil exporter and a major supplier of oil to the United States. The CIA estimates that U.S. markets absorb almost 59 percent of Venezuela's total exports.

Venezuela's government has demanded in the past that the United States crack down on Cuban and Venezuelan "terrorists" in Florida who they say are conspiring against Chavez.

Robertson accused the United States of failing to act when Chavez was briefly overthrown in 2002.

"We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability," Robertson said.

"We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator," he continued. "It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."


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And this is a God fearing and God loving person, who conspires into murder?!

Tell me, what is wrong with this picture?!!

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posted August 23, 2005 10:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson said. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop."

Oh my f@cking God. They had better shut him up quick. Jwhop, page headquarters asap.

also interesting ...."communist infiltration and muslim extremism". Wow! What a fun mix. Good luck to them.

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posted August 23, 2005 10:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And he's supposedly religious. how frightening it is to know people like that send messages out about murder.

Ewww look at that evil aura in him. Evil ugly demon.


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posted August 23, 2005 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, he is starting to look like Sir Ian Holm isn't he?!

Hmmmm!

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posted August 23, 2005 11:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who is this guy?

quote:
God's Word in Action: Thou Shall Not Murder

http://www.patrobertson.com/teaching/shallnotmurder.asp

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posted August 24, 2005 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol Tink!

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posted August 24, 2005 08:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How very Christian jihadist of him.

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posted August 24, 2005 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thou shalt not murder...

...unless you don't particularly like the person you are murdering!

"This is George "Dubya" Bush and I approve this message!"

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posted August 24, 2005 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wednesday, Aug. 24, 2005 12:23 p.m. EDT
Stephanopoulos Urged Foreign Assassination

Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson prompted a firestorm of media outrage on Tuesday after he suggested that the Bush administration should assassinate a foreign leader who posed a threat to the U.S. - in this case, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

But when senior Clinton advisor George Stephanopoulos publicly argued for the same kind of assassination policy in 1997, the press voiced no objection at all.

Fresh from his influential White House post, Stephanopoulos devoted an entire column in Newsweek to the topic of whether the U.S. should take out Saddam Hussein.
His headlined? "Why We Should Kill Saddam."

"Assassination may be Clinton's best option," the future "This Week" host urged. "If we can kill Saddam, we should."

Though Iraq war critics now argue that by 1997, the Iraqi dictator was "in a box" and posed no threat whatsoever to the U.S., Stephanopoulos contended that Saddam deserved swift and lethal justice.

"We've exhausted other efforts to stop him, and killing him certainly seems more proportionate to his crimes and discriminate in its effect than massive bombing raids that will inevitably kill innocent civilians," the diminutive former aide contended.

Stephanopoulos even offered a way to get around the presidential ban on foreign assassinations:

"If Clinton decides we can and should assassinate Saddam, he could call in national-security adviser Sandy Berger and sign a secret National Security Decision Directive authorizing it."

The Stephanopoulos plan: "First, we could offer to provide money and materiel to Iraqi exiles willing to lead an effort to overthrow Saddam. . . . The second option is a targeted airstrike against the homes or bunkers where Saddam is most likely to be hiding."

The one-time top Clinton aide said that, far from violating international principles, assassinating Saddam would be the moral thing to do, arguing, "What's unlawful - and unpopular with the allies - is not necessarily immoral."

Stephanopoulos also noted that killing Saddam could pay big political dividends at home, saying the mission would make Clinton "a huge winner if it succeeded."
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/8/24/122804.shtml

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posted August 24, 2005 07:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop, I hesitate to speak for everybody but ..... I think what strikes us is the sick irony of a self-proclaimed Christian leader calling for an assassination. A Democrat or Republican politician saying the same might not surprise us quite the same.

If lovely were here she might ask you why you brought up George when the thread is clearly not about him.

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posted August 24, 2005 08:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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radical Christian conservatives...there is no such thing by the way..--jwhop


its because the subject of stephanopolopolopolis's threat against saddam was the issue on the right wing radio today, in order to deflect attention from this "radical christian conservative" pat robertson.....

bush sr should have cleaned up his mess in 91 and the iraqis would have been happy.....failing that, saddam was a worthy target for assassination....as a last resort of course

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posted August 24, 2005 08:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah ... I see. Don't listen to that sort of stuff much anymore.

I believe that's the second radical Christian conservative nut we've found since Jwhop denied their existence. Did you notice?

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posted August 24, 2005 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah, I forgot. The left is only in favor of radial Islamic clerics urging jihad, beheadings and assassinations...not so called Christian clerics.

Sorry, I'll try to remember that in the future.

I'm with Robertson, at the first evidence Chavez is attempting to spread communist revolution in Central or South America or destabilize the Americas take him out...and I don't mean kidnap him.

With the first evidence Chavaz is aiding, abetting or funding terrorists...take him out...and I don't mean kidnap him.

How's that? I'm not religious but if it would make it count more, I could get a Ph.D. in theology from a diploma mill.

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Oh yeah, I forgot. The left is only in favor of radial Islamic clerics urging jihad--jwhop

unless of course its bush sr urging the mujahadeen to commit jihad on the soviet union......then its ok

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posted August 24, 2005 09:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're with Robertson???!!! Are you really going to align yourself with that pyschotic, hypocritical Bible thumper???

You're going to condone US government-approved political assasinations??!! Whose side are you on? Is your reason on the back burner tonight?

Congratulations. You've turned into the enemy.

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posted August 24, 2005 10:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

THOU SHALT NOT LIE

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VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (AP) - Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson insisted Wednesday that he did not call for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, despite comments broadcast on his program two days earlier.

"I didn't say 'assassination,'" Robertson said Wednesday on his Christian Broadcast Network show "The 700 Club" about remarks reported by The Associated Press and other media outlets.

"I said our special forces should 'take him out."Take him out' could be a number of things including kidnapping. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050824/D8C6DTO80.html

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posted August 24, 2005 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ummm, I must have missed Bush Sr. urging jihadists to kill Soviets. Could you please furnish a quote for me Petron?

Nope TINK, my reason is right where it always is...front and center. My reason tells me to deal with enemies as enemies. In the case of terrorists, that means kill them wherever you find them. In the case of Chavez, if he funds them, aids them, abets them, then kill Chavez too. That extends to the radical regime in Iran, Syria and any other regime which sends terrorists out against the United States or our allies as proxies to do their dirty work.

By now, some of those explosives Iran has been sending to terrorists in Iraq to use against coalition forces and members of the Iraqi government would have found their way back to Iran in the form of a nice large bomb designed to take out some of the ruling clerics there. But that's just me. Bush is much more understanding than I.

BTW, I never doubted for a moment I was the enemy.

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That's insanity, jwhop. And sadly unAmerican. You'll wake up in the morning and wish you hadn't said something in such pathetic contradiction to the principles which made our country great and forged the covenant upon which we have so long relied.

No go read the Declaration, get some sleep, and, God willing, wake up a more righteous man.

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"BTW, I never doubted for a moment I was the enemy."

and wtf is that supposed to mean?

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Take him out? Now, why does that remind me of the Chilean coupe where President Allende was taken out? Hmmmmmm...........

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posted August 24, 2005 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Jefferson spelled it all out very well. "Enemies in War, in Peace Friends".

No mystery here TINK. Make war on the US or aid those who do and they should fully expect the US to respond with lethal force against them.

You don't seem to have arrived at the conclusion terrorists and terrorist supporting nations don't just want the US out of the middle east, they want to raise the flag of Islam over the capitols of every nation on earth. It's not going to happen.

As for Chavez, he's already attempting to destabilize the area...aiding communist terrorists who are attempting to overthrow governments in the area. Should Chavez link up with terrorists attempting to attack the US, he should be terminated with extreme prejudice...immediately.

Guerrilla Nation
The arrest of FARC terrorist Ricardo Granda sheds new light on Hugo Chavez's ongoing support of terrorism.
by Thor Halvorssen
01/26/2005 12:00:00 AM http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/177yckaw.asp

Excuse me TINK, that's hardly Un-American. That may be the opinion of the left but then in my opinion the left is not only Un-American but Unpatriotic as well....as they prove daily. Un-American is siding with America's enemies..which the left has done for more than 70 years. Un-American is taking up the causes of those who attack the United States. Hugo Chavez is definitely an enemy of the United States.

"The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred. to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends."

Knuckling under to threats and failing to respond to attacks on the US is not what made America great. That only happened under Commander Corruption and the bone headed bungler Carter...with far reaching and devastating consequences.

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As long as they are a republican jwhop will always agree with anything they say.


They could murder his mother or father and he'd still support them because they are a republican.

How sad. I'm definitely a leader not a follower.


Grow your own balls old man.


I won't be surprised if you are even physically attracted to these old men with sweaty balls ewwww.

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posted August 25, 2005 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mystic Whatever, has anyone told you to stuff it today?

You're definitely a leader?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. From where I sit, you couldn't find your ass with both hands. The blind leading the numb.

Let's see great leader. Were you and your leftist friends equally outraged when Commander Corruption's senior advisor, George Stephanopoulos urged him to assassinate Saddam, or is your outrage selective?

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I'm not an idiot, jwhop. I realize politics is messy. I'm aware of what we're dealing with in the Mid East. I acknowledge that we can't play nice with this scum. Nevertheless, I remember what it is we are fighting for. Betray that and what's the point of fighting? A line must be drawn somewhere and political assasination is a good place to start. Are we a nation or a mob family?

Please don't throw Thomas in my face. Show me where Thomas proposed knocking off King George.

I am not "the Left". Far from it. And if you question my patriotism one more time I will find my way to Florida and hunt your sorry ass down.

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Jwhop loves them sweaty balls ewwww

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