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Author Topic:   Where's Jwhop? Bush to UN: War alone won't defeat terrorism
AcousticGod
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posted September 14, 2005 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By Steve Holland
2 hours, 48 minutes ago

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush told the United Nations on Wednesday that war alone will not win the fight against terrorism and world leaders must tackle conditions that lead the oppressed to take up arms.

"We must defeat the terrorists on the battlefield and we must also defeat them in the battle of ideas," Bush told the U.N. World Summit.

Bush made his address with his job approval rating at an all-time low over the slow federal response to Hurricane Katrina and continued bloodshed in Iraq, where a wave of attacks on Wednesday killed more than 150 people in Baghdad.

Bush, who failed to gain U.N. backing in 2003 for the Iraq war over unproven charges that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction, urged the U.N. to stand with Iraqis "as they complete the journey to a fully constitutional government."

He thanked the more than 115 nations and international organizations for offers of assistance after Hurricane Katrina caused the worst U.S. humanitarian crisis.

"Your response, like the response to last year's tsunami, has shown once again that the world is more compassionate and hopeful when we act together," he said.

Saying increased trade could alleviate poverty, Bush said the United States was prepared to drop all obstacles to free trade if other nations followed suit.

"Today I broaden the challenge by making this pledge: The United States is ready to eliminate all tariffs, subsidies and other barriers to the free flow of goods and services if other nations do the same," he said.

A CHANGE OF TONE

Bush's speech was notable for a shift in tone away from tough talk on terrorism and an emphasis on tackling the conditions that lead to militancy by spreading democracy, easing poverty and lifting the debt burden on poor countries.

"Confronting our enemies is essential, and so civilized nations will continue to take the fight to the terrorists. Yet we know that this war will not be won by force of arms alone," Bush said.

It will take a collective effort, he said, citing many countries that have suffered attacks.

"The lesson is clear. There can be no safety in looking away or seeking the quiet life by ignoring the hardship and oppression of others. Either hope will spread or violence will spread, and we must take the side of hope," Bush said.

Bush came to the United Nations for a renewed focus on international problems after devoting the last two weeks to an intense focus on hurricane relief at home and attempting to correct a sluggish government response to the disaster.

After his address, Bush held talks with Israeli Prime Ariel Sharon and told him he was "inspired" by the courage Sharon showed in his decision to pull out of Gaza.

He also had talks with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, his chief ally on Iraq.

In his speech, Bush warned that if avian flu is not contained, it could become a pandemic.

Since 2003, the highly pathogenic strain of the disease known as H5N1 has killed more than 60 people in Asia, most of whom caught the virus from infected birds. The greatest worry is that it could mutate and become transmissible between people.

(Additional reporting by Caren Bohan)

Sounds like what I said.

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cancerrg
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posted September 17, 2005 01:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah , war can't solve terrorism .

btw, waht did u say?

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AcousticGod
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posted September 17, 2005 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I said that the US ought to be very, very publicly good, and help people so that the terrorists begin to lose their support from the locations that they're in.

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Randall
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posted September 19, 2005 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yoo Hoo, where are you, Jwhop?

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posted September 19, 2005 11:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, Jwhop.....where ya be?

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AcousticGod
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posted September 19, 2005 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably helping out Katrina victims, or dealing with his own weather issues.

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posted September 19, 2005 02:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah! One's headed for Florida....*sigh*

Take cover JWhop....or evacuate....(if it's headed your particular way...)

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posted September 19, 2005 02:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's not usually MIA for this long...

Jwhop, I've been expecting a tongue-lashing for quite some time now.

I've said some bad, bad things about Bush. You may even need to spank me.

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posted September 19, 2005 03:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been enjoying the peace.

I guess I'll need to look elsewhere for a little pig-headed controversy.

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posted September 19, 2005 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been enjoying the peace and seeing all these people come out from the woodwork as well, but I do worry about him based on his location.

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TINK
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posted September 19, 2005 04:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmmm

Have you called him, Randall?

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LibraSparkle
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posted September 20, 2005 01:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure... sure, the peace is nice.

But, the sound of the crickets chirping in here is damn near deafening!

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Ra
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posted September 20, 2005 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Bush warned that if avian flu is not contained, it could become a pandemic. Since 2003, the highly pathogenic strain of the disease known as H5N1 has killed more than 60 people in Asia"

Yes, line up and get your "vaccinations", 60 people have died in 3 years, we could have a pandemic on our hands.

Are you kidding me?

Of course, without proper medication, we might actually begin to think for ourselves, and it might dawn on us that a couple of MILLION people have been KILLED in the Congo in the last several years. Maybe someone should think about containing THAT.

But we keep drinking the cool-aid.

More flouride anyone?

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TINK
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posted September 20, 2005 10:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ra, seeing as Jwhop has abandoned us, would you be our new Daddy?

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posted September 20, 2005 11:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'll have some more of the Ra flavored cool-aid, thanks.

thanks for your light here Ra.

love, Hedgewitch

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i bless the Air, the Horus hawk
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Ra
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posted September 20, 2005 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop is way out of my league. Besides, we are very different in our views when it reaches a certain point, and I could not defend the conservative lines like he can.

I like the little blessing, Hedgewitch. What is that from?

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Hedgewitch
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posted September 20, 2005 04:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Illuminatus Trilogy

by Robert Anton Wilson

http://www.rawilson.com/bookstore.shtml#historical

http://www.maybelogic.org/courses.htm

(i've chanted that daily for many years now.)

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i bless Ra, the fierce Sun shining bright
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TINK
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posted September 20, 2005 10:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not asking for you to defend the conservative line, Ra. Just my way of asking you to hang out with us a little bit more often.

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AcousticGod
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posted September 20, 2005 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi TINK! Just saying hello.

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Ra
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posted September 21, 2005 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tink, that would only get me into trouble.

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LibraSparkle
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posted September 21, 2005 12:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm with Tink. ( Hi Tink.)

Your posts are refreshing.

Stay a while. It might be fun.

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TINK
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posted September 21, 2005 07:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't be afraid of a little trouble, Ra. I'll protect you.


Hello O God-like One. What happened to my profound peek into the inner workings of AG's mind?

Hi Sparkly

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AcousticGod
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posted September 21, 2005 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will you just look at all this unity? Crazy isn't it?

Your profound peek into my inner workings was interupted by doubts that anyone would care about such things. Plus there's still that egoism aspect. And the fact that those reports are very long.

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TINK
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posted September 21, 2005 07:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I wasn't interested, I wouldn't have asked.

Unity on GU is fun!

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AcousticGod
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posted September 21, 2005 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not saying that you're not. It's just that I don't think others would understand, and there was no further prompting for it, so it didn't feel right. I could email you them if you like. My email is acousticgod@sbcglobal.net.

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